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I just wish he took his role more seriously.

It's time for Joe Rogan to be [organ stab] held accountable.

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Well what are you suggesting? And why are you focusing on Rogan?


He's saying that he's always right because he is super smart. Rogan is a dummy and nothing on his show is credible or could be credible in anyway.


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JRE is just college dorm/frat house tv room doper talk. Nothing to see there that you can't see any night at any college in the country. Bong hits, beers and bullshit.


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Sort of but I think it's a little more than that. He's great at getting people to talk and he will have anyone on. That's not very common anymore.


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Stephen Colbert is a much better interviewer


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Rick apparently wants only government approved "experts" to be allowed to speak.

Don't go all Spaulding and make things up.



Well what are you suggesting? And why are you focusing on Rogan?

Throwing him in jail with Trump.

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Spaulding wrote:
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Well what are you suggesting? And why are you focusing on Rogan?


He's saying that he's always right because he is super smart. Rogan is a dummy and nothing on his show is credible or could be credible in anyway.

This too. Nailed it again.

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What you are knocking is curiosity. That's what makes you look like a goof.
I'm not knocking it at all. If the general theme of the show is "I don't know, maybe this is correct and let's talk about it without really knowing if it is or not" then that is fine.


OK, let's try to get the crayons out so maybe it will make sense.

Often try to find something that interests or distracts me while I'm out running, found a Rogan pod where some woman was trying to sell a conspiracy book.

She would not talk about the one of the central themes of her book, Rogan kept prodding her until he got her to talk about her odd take on Area 51, to which he said, "What makes you think your facts are correct", she stumbled on for another 20 minutes, but the longer she talked the more it became evident it was all just a story she had concocted.

There are also many times where he and the guest disagree on things and he asks them to frame their argument better, they either can or cannot and it becomes evident they have not considered some important variables that make their ideas implausible.

It's up to the listener to do the background research, but you do get to hear a unique take that you would not hear elsewhere.

That anecdote is basically "He had an unqualified guest and he figures out she was unqualified after 30 or so minutes".

None of you are giving Rogan any more credit than I am. I get you like the show but even you finished with that it's up to the user to figure out if the first he featured is telling the truth or not.


Isn't that true about everything in life? Do you just blindly trust what news media types tell you?

If that's the case, then provide the group with your list of approved "thought leaders" so we can all know how we should look to so that we can appropriately interpret the news of the day.


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Clawmaster wrote:
Isn't that true about everything in life? Do you just blindly trust what news media types tell you?

If that's the case, then provide the group with your list of approved "thought leaders" so we can all know how we should look to so that we can appropriately interpret the news of the day.

I'm not saying blindly trust anything you see from anyone but there should be an effort by the person sharing the information on their show to have a general idea of the accuracy of it.

Lets say you walk into work and tell people something you heard on the JRE that you thought was interesting. One person asks "Is it true?" And you say "I don't know. Do your own research. The show is about curiousity. It's up to you to do the background research."

That's fine but this argument basically comes down to me saying that Joe Rogan should be able to tell if the person on his show is saying things that are at least somewhat accurate and you are saying "No. It's my job to Google it after I listen".

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Brick wrote:
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Isn't that true about everything in life? Do you just blindly trust what news media types tell you?

If that's the case, then provide the group with your list of approved "thought leaders" so we can all know how we should look to so that we can appropriately interpret the news of the day.

I'm not saying blindly trust anything you see from anyone but there should be an effort by the person sharing the information on their show to have a general idea of the accuracy of it.

Lets say you walk into work and tell people something you heard on the JRE that you thought was interesting. One person asks "Is it true?" And you say "I don't know. Do your own research. The show is about curiousity. It's up to you to do the background research."

That's fine but this argument basically comes down to me saying that Joe Rogan should be able to tell if the person on his show is saying things that are at least somewhat accurate and you are saying "No. It's my job to Google it after I listen".

Don't you tire of one note nannies who's heels are dug in and their biases are billboards? Can you be perfect for 3 hours at an intellectual pursuit? I'm confident you wouldn't nitpick if you would take the time to do a couple complete listens, instead of taking what one note nannies feed you in clips. Isn't that one of your complaints about Ten Second Clip Joe Biden?


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A three plus hour interview of anyone is interminable. I listened to a few eps and do not get the appeal at all. Lemme just binge TikTok videos!

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A three plus hour interview of anyone is interminable. I listened to a few eps and do not get the appeal at all. Lemme just binge TikTok videos!

Don't you go hack up a golf course for 3 hrs?


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A three plus hour interview of anyone is interminable. I listened to a few eps and do not get the appeal at all. Lemme just binge TikTok videos!


He is the most popular podcast and I'd say his good show ratio is below 50%.

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Brick wrote:
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Isn't that true about everything in life? Do you just blindly trust what news media types tell you?

If that's the case, then provide the group with your list of approved "thought leaders" so we can all know how we should look to so that we can appropriately interpret the news of the day.

I'm not saying blindly trust anything you see from anyone but there should be an effort by the person sharing the information on their show to have a general idea of the accuracy of it.

Lets say you walk into work and tell people something you heard on the JRE that you thought was interesting. One person asks "Is it true?" And you say "I don't know. Do your own research. The show is about curiousity. It's up to you to do the background research."

That's fine but this argument basically comes down to me saying that Joe Rogan should be able to tell if the person on his show is saying things that are at least somewhat accurate and you are saying "No. It's my job to Google it after I listen".


Let's say you go to work and are presented with a set of lab values that could indicate one thing or the other, do you just blindly trust what you know, or do you seek out other sets of eyes with other levels of experience to help interpret said lab values?

You would of course potentially run into someone with a somewhat radical interpretation that you had not considered, you would of course vet that interpretation and thereby potentially increase your interpretive level, you may actually learn something completely different during your pursuit, but that is how critical thinking skills are developed and honed.

Maybe some are just intellectually curious, and others are afraid to venture outside of some prefabricated intellectual box they have built for themselves? I would suppose those types would find any open ranging conversation terrifying because they may hear something that challenges their prefabricated box.

It does seem that many willingly choose to limit themselves due to a fear of being exposed to new ideas or new concepts.


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Lets say you walk into work and tell people something you heard on the JRE that you thought was interesting. One person asks "Is it true?" And you say "I don't know. Do your own research. The show is about curiousity. It's up to you to do the background research."

That's fine but this argument basically comes down to me saying that Joe Rogan should be able to tell if the person on his show is saying things that are at least somewhat accurate and you are saying "No. It's my job to Google it after I listen".


Let's say you go to work and are presented with a set of lab values that could indicate one thing or the other, do you just blindly trust what you know, or do you seek out other sets of eyes with other levels of experience to help interpret said lab values?

You would of course potentially run into someone with a somewhat radical interpretation that you had not considered, you would of course vet that interpretation and thereby potentially increase your interpretive level, you may actually learn something completely different during your pursuit, but that is how critical thinking skills are developed and honed.

Maybe some are just intellectually curious, and others are afraid to venture outside of some prefabricated intellectual box they have built for themselves? I would suppose those types would find any open ranging conversation terrifying because they may hear something that challenges their prefabricated box.

It does seem that many willingly choose to limit themselves due to a fear of being exposed to new ideas or new concepts.[/quote]I'll simply point out once again that you and me are both treating the Joe Rogan Experience and the guests on it as unreliable which is fine with me. Even you have made it crystal clear you shouldn't actually believe anything you hear on the show without "doing your own research".

I actually like Joe Rogan from all the other things he has done previously but I guess it's too much to have an expectation that the information on his show doesn't require me to fact check it all because it could just be a bunch of made up garbage or it could be correct and there really isn't any way to know.

You seem quite impressed with yourself because you listen to the Joe Rogan Experience. :lol:

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Lets say you walk into work and tell people something you heard on the JRE that you thought was interesting. One person asks "Is it true?" And you say "I don't know. Do your own research. The show is about curiousity. It's up to you to do the background research."

That's fine but this argument basically comes down to me saying that Joe Rogan should be able to tell if the person on his show is saying things that are at least somewhat accurate and you are saying "No. It's my job to Google it after I listen".


Let's say you go to work and are presented with a set of lab values that could indicate one thing or the other, do you just blindly trust what you know, or do you seek out other sets of eyes with other levels of experience to help interpret said lab values?

You would of course potentially run into someone with a somewhat radical interpretation that you had not considered, you would of course vet that interpretation and thereby potentially increase your interpretive level, you may actually learn something completely different during your pursuit, but that is how critical thinking skills are developed and honed.

Maybe some are just intellectually curious, and others are afraid to venture outside of some prefabricated intellectual box they have built for themselves? I would suppose those types would find any open ranging conversation terrifying because they may hear something that challenges their prefabricated box.

It does seem that many willingly choose to limit themselves due to a fear of being exposed to new ideas or new concepts.I'll simply point out once again that you and me are both treating the Joe Rogan Experience and the guests on it as unreliable which is fine with me. Even you have made it crystal clear you shouldn't actually believe anything you hear on the show without "doing your own research".

I actually like Joe Rogan from all the other things he has done previously but I guess it's too much to have an expectation that the information on his show doesn't require me to fact check it all because it could just be a bunch of made up garbage or it could be correct and there really isn't any way to know.

You seem quite impressed with yourself because you listen to the Joe Rogan Experience. :lol:


Oddly enough you dont seem to want to hold say , the CDC to the same standard as <checks notes> a ummm poscaster

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Oddly enough you dont seem to want to hold say , the CDC to the same standard as <checks notes> a ummm poscaster

You are going to have to be more specific, but as Spaulding reminds me every day I didn't get the booster that the CDC told me to get. :lol:

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Oddly enough you dont seem to want to hold say , the CDC to the same standard as <checks notes> a ummm poscaster


Those people are experts and full of honesty and integrity. They are the smartest people in the world with pure motives and good intentions. If they go on Joe Rogan they should be believed without question.


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You are going to have to be more specific, but as Spaulding reminds me every day I didn't get the booster that the CDC told me to get. :lol:


I don't know why you aren't listening to the experts. Are you following what the crazy Joe Rogan guests say?


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You are going to have to be more specific, but as Spaulding reminds me every day I didn't get the booster that the CDC told me to get. :lol:


I don't know why you aren't listening to the experts. Are you following what the crazy Joe Rogan guests say?
I can't make an argument that helps me any better than you've made an argument that helps me.

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No one has been more wrong with the information put forth during Covid than the CDC, but it’s Joe Rogan who needs to be more mindful of what his guests are saying.

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No one has been more wrong with the information put forth during Covid than the CDC, but it’s Joe Rogan who needs to be more mindful of what his guests are saying.

As Spaulding has made clear though, I don't really trust the CDC either.

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What changed?

Nothing changed.

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Lets say you walk into work and tell people something you heard on the JRE that you thought was interesting. One person asks "Is it true?" And you say "I don't know. Do your own research. The show is about curiousity. It's up to you to do the background research."

That's fine but this argument basically comes down to me saying that Joe Rogan should be able to tell if the person on his show is saying things that are at least somewhat accurate and you are saying "No. It's my job to Google it after I listen".


Let's say you go to work and are presented with a set of lab values that could indicate one thing or the other, do you just blindly trust what you know, or do you seek out other sets of eyes with other levels of experience to help interpret said lab values?

You would of course potentially run into someone with a somewhat radical interpretation that you had not considered, you would of course vet that interpretation and thereby potentially increase your interpretive level, you may actually learn something completely different during your pursuit, but that is how critical thinking skills are developed and honed.

Maybe some are just intellectually curious, and others are afraid to venture outside of some prefabricated intellectual box they have built for themselves? I would suppose those types would find any open ranging conversation terrifying because they may hear something that challenges their prefabricated box.

It does seem that many willingly choose to limit themselves due to a fear of being exposed to new ideas or new concepts.
I'll simply point out once again that you and me are both treating the Joe Rogan Experience and the guests on it as unreliable which is fine with me. Even you have made it crystal clear you shouldn't actually believe anything you hear on the show without "doing your own research".

I actually like Joe Rogan from all the other things he has done previously but I guess it's too much to have an expectation that the information on his show doesn't require me to fact check it all because it could just be a bunch of made up garbage or it could be correct and there really isn't any way to know.

You seem quite impressed with yourself because you listen to the Joe Rogan Experience. :lol:[/quote]

Nice tap out, yet another win for the Clawmaster


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No one has been more wrong with the information put forth during Covid than the CDC, but it’s Joe Rogan who needs to be more mindful of what his guests are saying.


Nothing wrong with openly questioning everything, it's the only way science moves forward.


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Then get your booster. They are safe and effective. Who were you trusting up til this point? It was the science. Joe Biden and his science team says You're putting yourself and other people unnecessarily at risk and Almost everyone who will die from COVID this year will not be up to date on their shots. Brick obviously hates science now. Science denying anti vaxxer probably going to start listening to Joe Rogan that Brick.


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Then get your booster. They are safe and effective. Who were you trusting up til this point? It was the science. Joe Biden and his science team says You're putting yourself and other people unnecessarily at risk and Almost everyone who will die from COVID this year will not be up to date on their shots. Brick obviously hates science now. Science denying anti vaxxer probably going to start listening to Joe Rogan that Brick.

The thing you don't seem to grasp is that I didn't get the original vaccine because Joe Biden or Fauci or anyone else told me to.

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Now you know the science of the vaccine? You are the ultimate authority on safe and effective? Ran all the tests and looked at all the data, did ya?

You trusted someone or something who was following the science. And now you are not trusting that someone still following the science or maybe no longer trusting the science. I know Omicron upsilon omega is far less dangerous. That is science too. Thing is it's all Brick science. Spaulding science is stupid, Joe Rogan science is unreliable but that Brick science it's always right!!!!


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