The problem with counting on him as a rusher is two-fold: the chance of injury goes way up, and unless he maintains an average of 7+ yards per carry, he's going to be at a disadvantage compared to decent QBs who average 8+ yards per attempted pass. Passing is still better than running. His running has value...I just don't think we can assume he's going to be a 175 passing, 75 running QB in the long term.

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I agree. I think the next question is are you using fields as a runner because it's another threat or because it's a way to mask weaknesses in his passing. If the latter then I wouldn't want him moving forward for the reasons you mentioned.

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Behind this line he’s just as likely to get injured passing than running.

Of course, it's the latter. It's the smart thing to do. The hope is the accuracy comes along. I have no issue with the way this staff is developing him.

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With the addition of Claypool, there is no reason Fields should not be cracking 200 yards of passing every week. He's now got a #1 and #2, a great running game, and while the pass protection is suspect, the running game (including the threat of himself) should take some pressure off. I think Poles made this trade in part to challenge Fields, and I like it. Assuming Fields stays healthy, these remaining games should be enough to show if he's a keeper.

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I would give Claypool a few weeks to get up to speed, but I agree. Poles was on Waddle and Silvy today and he sounded like he was still evaluating Fields.

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Claypool is a solid #2 who can turn into a #1, Mooney is a low end #2, probably a good #3 receiver

At this point, it has been proven guilty of being poor beyond a reasonable doubt.

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This assumes he's going to drop back and pass more. We don't know that though. Again, if the designed run is still a major part of the attack, then that's going to cap the pass yardage stats. Every yard gained on a run is one less pass yard he could have had. I think your benchmark of 200 is reasonable if he starts passing more.

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yes but I would have him in immediately to run jump ball plays in the red zone, an area that has really been a problem for the Bears. He can run that type of play this Sunday, as both he and the Bears are familiar with its mechanics.

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I wouldn't use the term "evaluating" Fields. I would see Poles and company as "developing" Fields. Fields has proven himself to be a franchise quarterback. He has tools that very few qbs in NFL history have had. It is Poles job to keep this guy happy and to build a powerful team around him.

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Mooney is CLEARLY a #3 at best. Claypool has all the measurables to be a #1 but if Tomlin couldn't get him to focus, not sure who will.

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Tomlin is an overhyped Lovie. Except he doesn't have an actual defense or philosophy.

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Tomlin had a franchise QB, Lovie never did, think that Lovie wins at least one ring with above average QB play.

I don't think that is quite fair, Nas. He's been a head coach for 16 years and has never had a losing season (until now most likely). Also has a ring and another Super Bowl appearance. Tomlin has more playoff wins than any head coach in Bears history...including Ditka and Halas.

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He's also had one of the best defensive coordinators, quarterbacks and organizations in NFL history.

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Great.

That doesn't refute anything that I said. I'm not arguing he's an all time top ten coach or anything, but saying he's only slightly better than Lovie is just not correct.

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And he's extracted as much as he could out of all those resources. That's why he's been there for so long. Not to have a losing season for as long as he did is remarkable.

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Fields is a franchise quarterback.

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I think it’s a little of both. He’s a very good coach but you can honestly say that he has underachieved in the playoffs a bit.

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I'm not saying Tomlin sucks as a coach. I'm saying he's overrated. I'm saying he may be Doc Rivers of the NFL. He just got lucky enough to join the greatest organization in history of modern football.

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Doc rivers is a one hit wonder. Then he screwed up LAC's window by forcing his son onto the team and prioritizing his development. Really bad judgment.

Tomlin is a poor man's belichik. Sustained success but in a better division where he's always had at least one tough rival (Baltimore).

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He may be elite at holding a locker room together. Never forget he had some good years with some of the bigger psychos in the NFL.

It’s never been apparent to me what he’s good at from a coaching perspective. Maybe he’s an elite delegator.

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Yeah, like Lovie, he's been like a father to a lot of players. That's HUGE.

Outside of sharing his expectations, I'm not sure what he does. I knew Lovie brought his defense. Tomlin has had great players his entire time there and a great defensive coordinator the majority of the time. Big Ben led the offense.

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They probably had one more good run in them but Le’Veon Bell decided to be a fucking baby. Shazier’s career ender obviously didnt help either, dude was well on his was to being a beast

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

You guys are basically describing a good executive. Fix both sides of the ball and then manage. Lovie never developed a philosophy of offense that could then be executed by an OC. He just randomly picked OCs that would work for him without any regard to a larger philosophy. And I say that as a huge Lovie guy.

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Antonio Brown cracked around the same time too. That was a SB caliber team.

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Lovie didn't inherit a HoF quarterback, either. You're right, though; Tomlin is from the same cloth as John Harbaugh.

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Most great coaches can point to some element of the game that they control. They generally have some ‘system’ - whatever side of the ball - and they’re borderline super coordinators that need some other guy to complement their shortcomings.

I’m not sure what Tomlin’s system would be. He’s a little like John Harbaugh in that way.

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