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what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

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what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."

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Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."

A parent has that right, no doubt.


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Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."


I have yet to meet any teacher that has or actually believes that they should either. Though I'm sure in your infinite, "Twitter inspired" wisdom you will no doubt "unearth" someone that "validates" your claims :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I actually have a friend whose child went through with the operation. I can't remember if she got involved all that much or not. They actually turned it into a 2 part reality show. Perhaps some of the intolerant cast of characters that populate should check it out so that they could have a better "perspective"

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."


I have yet to meet any teacher that has or actually believes that they should either.


This is how you play "hide the ball." You've spent multiple pages arguing for a teacher's/social worker's right to inset his/her own values into a student's family situation and suddenly you "don't know any teacher who believes they should do that."

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."

Should the same be true for a social worker who knows a student is being encouraged to "be a girl" but doesn't want to?

I think the better answer is to not let minors legally make such important decisions until they are at the age where they are legally allowed to make other adult decisions but it would go both ways. "I have to sneak out of the house in a dress to school" and "My parents only let me wear a dress to school" are the same issue of parental rights.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."


I have yet to meet any teacher that has or actually believes that they should either.


This is how you play "hide the ball." You've spent multiple pages arguing for a teacher's/social worker's right to inset his/her own values into a student's family situation and suddenly you "don't know any teacher who believes they should do that."


Teachers are mandated reporters. They're often the first line of defense for an abused child. They play an important role. They also get it wrong at times.

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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."

Should the same be true for a social worker who knows a student is being encouraged to "be a girl" but doesn't want to?

I think the better answer is to not let minors legally make such important decisions until they are at the age where they are legally allowed to make other adult decisions but it would go both ways. "I have to sneak out of the house in a dress to school" and "My parents only let me wear a dress to school" are the same issue of parental rights.


Leave D-Wade's child alone

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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."

Should the same be true for a social worker who knows a student is being encouraged to "be a girl" but doesn't want to?


Yeah. I think that's sad for the kid. But that's MY value. I'm not sure how far down the road of government interfering with families you want to go. Family is the most important thing, right? Nobody gets angry if Spaulding brings a government worker into a conversation.

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I think the better answer is to not let minors legally make such important decisions until they are at the age where they are legally allowed to make other adult decisions


I have no issue with that.

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."


I have yet to meet any teacher that has or actually believes that they should either.


This is how you play "hide the ball." You've spent multiple pages arguing for a teacher's/social worker's right to inset his/her own values into a student's family situation and suddenly you "don't know any teacher who believes they should do that."


Teachers are mandated reporters. They're often the first line of defense for an abused child. They play an important role. They also get it wrong at times.


I already addressed that above. We're not talking about a kid who has cigarette burns on his arm or regularly comes to school with bruises. And I think "regularly" is important there. Kids play rough and fuck themselves up all the time. I'm sure you don't want to get sucked into the DCFS system because your son took a football off his nose and some teacher or social worker reported it as abuse.

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I already addressed that above. We're not talking about a kid who has cigarette burns on his arm or regularly comes to school with bruises. And I think "regularly" is important there. Kids play rough and fuck themselves up all the time. I'm sure you don't want to get sucked into the DCFS system because your son took a football off his nose and some teacher or social worker reported it as abuse.



For better or worse schools and teachers probe. Every parent would be pissed—even the parents who put out their cigarettes on their children.

State governments have been inserting their values into the homes of parents since this country has existed. Do you think they should?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."

Should the same be true for a social worker who knows a student is being encouraged to "be a girl" but doesn't want to?


Yeah. I think that's sad for the kid. But that's MY value. I'm not sure how far down the road of government interfering with families you want to go. Family is the most important thing, right? Nobody gets angry if Spaulding brings a government worker into a conversation.

Brick wrote:
I think the better answer is to not let minors legally make such important decisions until they are at the age where they are legally allowed to make other adult decisions


I have no issue with that.

I think that's reasonable.

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Nas wrote:
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I already addressed that above. We're not talking about a kid who has cigarette burns on his arm or regularly comes to school with bruises. And I think "regularly" is important there. Kids play rough and fuck themselves up all the time. I'm sure you don't want to get sucked into the DCFS system because your son took a football off his nose and some teacher or social worker reported it as abuse.



For better or worse schools and teachers probe. Every parent would be pissed—even the parents who put out their cigarettes on their children.

State governments have been inserting their values into the homes of parents since this country has existed. Do you think they should?



I think we want to limit it to a point where we're strictly preventing abuse or truly egregious actions against a child. I understand that there may be disagreement over where to draw that line.

And I'm a little disappointed in you. I set you up perfectly to respond with, "Little Nas has great hands!" :lol:

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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."

Should the same be true for a social worker who knows a student is being encouraged to "be a girl" but doesn't want to?


Yeah. I think that's sad for the kid. But that's MY value. I'm not sure how far down the road of government interfering with families you want to go. Family is the most important thing, right? Nobody gets angry if Spaulding brings a government worker into a conversation.

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I think the better answer is to not let minors legally make such important decisions until they are at the age where they are legally allowed to make other adult decisions


I have no issue with that.

I think that's reasonable.


Isn't that the current system unless you're unbelievably wealthy enough to have a surgeon risk their license?

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I already addressed that above. We're not talking about a kid who has cigarette burns on his arm or regularly comes to school with bruises. And I think "regularly" is important there. Kids play rough and fuck themselves up all the time. I'm sure you don't want to get sucked into the DCFS system because your son took a football off his nose and some teacher or social worker reported it as abuse.



For better or worse schools and teachers probe. Every parent would be pissed—even the parents who put out their cigarettes on their children.

State governments have been inserting their values into the homes of parents since this country has existed. Do you think they should?



I think we want to limit it to a point where we're strictly preventing abuse or truly egregious actions against a child. I understand that there may be disagreement over where to draw that line.

And I'm a little disappointed in you. I set you up perfectly to respond with, "Little Nas has great hands!" :lol:


:lol: In fairness, this Little Nas has the worst hands. I've stopped thinking his coordination will improve with age. Hopefully, no teacher thinks we beat him.

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I already addressed that above. We're not talking about a kid who has cigarette burns on his arm or regularly comes to school with bruises. And I think "regularly" is important there. Kids play rough and fuck themselves up all the time. I'm sure you don't want to get sucked into the DCFS system because your son took a football off his nose and some teacher or social worker reported it as abuse.



For better or worse schools and teachers probe. Every parent would be pissed—even the parents who put out their cigarettes on their children.

State governments have been inserting their values into the homes of parents since this country has existed. Do you think they should?



I think we want to limit it to a point where we're strictly preventing abuse or truly egregious actions against a child. I understand that there may be disagreement over where to draw that line.

And I'm a little disappointed in you. I set you up perfectly to respond with, "Little Nas has great hands!" :lol:


:lol: In fairness, this Little Nas has the worst hands. I've stopped thinking his coordination will improve with age. Hopefully, no teacher thinks we beat him.

I am sure Little Nas has lots and lots of knowledge though.

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I already addressed that above. We're not talking about a kid who has cigarette burns on his arm or regularly comes to school with bruises. And I think "regularly" is important there. Kids play rough and fuck themselves up all the time. I'm sure you don't want to get sucked into the DCFS system because your son took a football off his nose and some teacher or social worker reported it as abuse.



For better or worse schools and teachers probe. Every parent would be pissed—even the parents who put out their cigarettes on their children.

State governments have been inserting their values into the homes of parents since this country has existed. Do you think they should?



I think we want to limit it to a point where we're strictly preventing abuse or truly egregious actions against a child. I understand that there may be disagreement over where to draw that line.

And I'm a little disappointed in you. I set you up perfectly to respond with, "Little Nas has great hands!" :lol:


:lol: In fairness, this Little Nas has the worst hands. I've stopped thinking his coordination will improve with age. Hopefully, no teacher thinks we beat him.

I am sure Little Nas has lots and lots of knowledge though.


You wouldn't believe it. He's already smarter than I am.

Edit: Maybe you would. :cry:

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

I already addressed that above. We're not talking about a kid who has cigarette burns on his arm or regularly comes to school with bruises. And I think "regularly" is important there. Kids play rough and fuck themselves up all the time. I'm sure you don't want to get sucked into the DCFS system because your son took a football off his nose and some teacher or social worker reported it as abuse.



For better or worse schools and teachers probe. Every parent would be pissed—even the parents who put out their cigarettes on their children.

State governments have been inserting their values into the homes of parents since this country has existed. Do you think they should?



I think we want to limit it to a point where we're strictly preventing abuse or truly egregious actions against a child. I understand that there may be disagreement over where to draw that line.

And I'm a little disappointed in you. I set you up perfectly to respond with, "Little Nas has great hands!" :lol:


:lol: In fairness, this Little Nas has the worst hands. I've stopped thinking his coordination will improve with age. Hopefully, no teacher thinks we beat him.

I am sure Little Nas has lots and lots of knowledge though.

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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."

Should the same be true for a social worker who knows a student is being encouraged to "be a girl" but doesn't want to?


Yeah. I think that's sad for the kid. But that's MY value. I'm not sure how far down the road of government interfering with families you want to go. Family is the most important thing, right? Nobody gets angry if Spaulding brings a government worker into a conversation.

Brick wrote:
I think the better answer is to not let minors legally make such important decisions until they are at the age where they are legally allowed to make other adult decisions


I have no issue with that.

I think that's reasonable.


Isn't that the current system unless you're unbelievably wealthy enough to have a surgeon risk their license?

I think it's easier to start the replacement therapies than being rich.

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I think it's easier to start the replacement therapies than being rich.


I have a godson who used to be my goddaughter. He wanted to start the process at 16. I don't think they would even allow him to take hormone pills. This was 5 years ago.

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Jersey Mike's commercials are pretty good. Highlighting the grill makes me hungry.


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Jersey Mike's commercials are pretty good. Highlighting the grill makes me hungry.


You know they have a secret menu?


the one where the food is good ?


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Jersey Mike's commercials are pretty good. Highlighting the grill makes me hungry.


You know they have a secret menu?

If I knew it wouldn't be a secret. I'm a snitch.


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I think it's easier to start the replacement therapies than being rich.


I have a godson who used to be my goddaughter. He wanted to start the process at 16. I don't think they would even allow him to take hormone pills. This was 5 years ago.
I don't know who to trust. Doctors or Libs Of TikTok.

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I think it's easier to start the replacement therapies than being rich.


I have a godson who used to be my goddaughter. He wanted to start the process at 16. I don't think they would even allow him to take hormone pills. This was 5 years ago.
I don't know who to trust. Doctors or Libs Of TikTok.


doctors for sure, they have your best interest in mind always. They took an oath or something


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I think it's easier to start the replacement therapies than being rich.


I have a godson who used to be my goddaughter. He wanted to start the process at 16. I don't think they would even allow him to take hormone pills. This was 5 years ago.
I don't know who to trust. Doctors or Libs Of TikTok.

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the one where the food is good ?


A good Italian deli sandwich is the best but they can be spotty and are few and far between. I think Jersey Mike's one of the better sub places for their price. I can't stand Panera and I'm not huge fan of Jimmy John's or potbelly's. There are a few places by us that are independent like mojos but then you are paying close to $50 for 2 or 3 sandwiches and I don't like their fries so no thanks.


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What do we think about teachers who attend parties with high school kids where the high school kids are drinking alcohol?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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what have you little scamps been up to here over the weekend?

The usual. Highly personal attacks.



Oddly enough, some of them from people who I am sure agree with me that a teacher or "social worker" has no business interfering with a parent's refusal to let his son "be a girl."


I have yet to meet any teacher that has or actually believes that they should either.


This is how you play "hide the ball." You've spent multiple pages arguing for a teacher's/social worker's right to inset his/her own values into a student's family situation and suddenly you "don't know any teacher who believes they should do that."


This is where you play "wannabe" Tucker Carlson. Actually to inform the parent as opposed to merely listening to the child and not passing judgment would be inserting one's self into a "student's family situation". In a situation such as this the best thing to do is ask the child if they have informed their parent. If the child says no then you encourage them to discuss it with their parent. That is what any responsible profession would do. You do not blindly go off calling the parent when you do not know the family situation of the child. That child might already be in an abusive "family situation" and hauling off and calling the family might lead to further abuse.

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