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Frankly as I saw you state that I called Francis Parker part of a public group it was reaffirmed that you don’t understand the reality of this situation. Brick’s point about you sadly seems more valid by the day. You seem to come across as increasingly joyless unless you’re talking about food.

What continues to amuse me is how many of you eternally angry busybodies find crap like this to set your collective hair on fire. Can’t wait for someone here to start bitching about President Biden not getting Paul Whelan freed alongside Brittney Griner.

Again, yet another ten page topic for the perpetually aggrieved. Then again I haven’t read the political echo chamber here.


My focus isn’t really if the school is public or private though. My focus is that the dean gave butt plugs and dildos to 14 year olds and said that that’s a really cool part of his job. And you don’t have a problem with that


I would say this though. If parents want to send their kids to a private school where they learn about sexual fetishes, I think that's their right. I just don't think that stuff has any place in public education.

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Frankly as I saw you state that I called Francis Parker part of a public group it was reaffirmed that you don’t understand the reality of this situation. Brick’s point about you sadly seems more valid by the day. You seem to come across as increasingly joyless unless you’re talking about food.

What continues to amuse me is how many of you eternally angry busybodies find crap like this to set your collective hair on fire. Can’t wait for someone here to start bitching about President Biden not getting Paul Whelan freed alongside Brittney Griner.

Again, yet another ten page topic for the perpetually aggrieved. Then again I haven’t read the political echo chamber here.


My focus isn’t really if the school is public or private though. My focus is that the dean gave butt plugs and dildos to 14 year olds and said that that’s a really cool part of his job. And you don’t have a problem with that

Again you are completely mischaracterizing my specific thoughts. Hell, I directly posted that I would object to my kids principal if I heard about crap like that. And if it continued I’d be sending my children to a CPS magnet school. Which is probably better btw.

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Ultimately its up the parents to make this an issue. If they apply pressure then the school will undoubtedly cave. I don't think the teacher should be discussing things like that in a school setting.

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I said I didn't think it was right in responding to you specifically.


You also said kids need to learn this from experts and not somebody’s older brother so your denouncement is less than convincing. So which is it? This should not be in schools or it should be taught by experts so they don’t learn it elsewhere?

The answer I gave is completely clear. I don't think it was right what happened at the $40k private school.

It seems strange to argue further when instead you should be saying "Sorry, I missed it earlier".

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I think you're lying to yourself for the sake of a message board argument. I know you don't want some freak discussing the type of sexual stuff that these people proudly insist they are discussing with your kid.
That was one of the blatant lies by Spaulding though. I would not want what happened at the $40k school to happen in my kids class.

It's ok to accept that Spaulding once again has misstated my actual thoughts.

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I'm available this Sunday to talk to all your minor children about leather, cuckolding, and foot play since so many of you feel Spaulding is mistaken.


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Ultimately its up the parents to make this an issue. If they apply pressure then the school will undoubtedly cave. I don't think the teacher should be discussing things like that in a school setting.


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"Parker is a private non religious school"

Nothing bad has ever happened to a child in a religious institution. They're 100% safe.

It's sad that something that happened in a private school is being used as a tool to attack public schools. Folks who have the means to have options are trying to mock and scare those who don't with an anecdote. That's what elitists do. Look down from the mountaintop to laugh at the peasants.

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"Parker is a private non religious school"

Nothing bad has ever happened to a child in a religious institution. They're 100% safe.

It's sad that something that happened in a private school is being used as a tool to attack public schools. Folks who have the means to have options are trying to mock and scare those who don't with an anecdote. That's what elitists do. Look down from the mountaintop to laugh at the peasants.


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"Parker is a private non religious school"

Nothing bad has ever happened to a child in a religious institution. They're 100% safe.

It's sad that something that happened in a private school is being used as a tool to attack public schools. Folks who have the means to have options are trying to mock and scare those who don't with an anecdote. That's what elitists do. Look down from the mountaintop to laugh at the peasants.


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Monster! I swallowed that.

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I would say this though. If parents want to send their kids to a private school where they learn about sexual fetishes, I think that's their right. I just don't think that stuff has any place in public education.


You'd be wrong.

I think Link has said parents don't belong in the classroom or shouldn't be allowed to dictate what a teacher teaches.

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Ultimately its up the parents to make this an issue. If they apply pressure then the school will undoubtedly cave. I don't think the teacher should be discussing things like that in a school setting.


That's really it.


You are wrong too.

Parker is a private non religious school. It's no better or worse than a private religious school. What elitists do is make themselves their own gods and cram it all on everyone else. Folks with means the elites send their kids to this school. I don't think stories like these are anecdotal anymore or at the very least this is what the elites are trying to mainstream and we should all be fearful of that. The elites are wrong here and the school doubled down on it. I'm not one and I don't look down on anybody. I said several times I'm sad for the kids or families that don't really have options and I'm grateful that I do. I don't think any 14 year olds should be in a class with a guy that wants to discuss ass plugs and dildos with them.

Now lemme get this all of this straight...1) All of you don't want or wouldn't want your kids to be taught this but it's okay for some other people's kids to be exposed to it. 2) Not wanting your kids to be taught it is not at all bigoted or noninclusive. 3) You all will continue to approve of and vote for the people and the ideology that leads to these types of situations and tell me I'm just scared or overreacting.


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I would say this though. If parents want to send their kids to a private school where they learn about sexual fetishes, I think that's their right. I just don't think that stuff has any place in public education.


You'd be wrong.


I don't think so. Nobody has to send their kid to a private school that is "teaching" that. Let the market decide.

A public school funded by taxpayer dollars and where the poorest among us have no choice but to send their children, that's a different story.

I get your point about a vocal minority attempting to mainstream this crap. But I'm sure Curious Hair might think some of what they teach at a Catholic school is abusive. I don't think he should be able to prevent parents from sending their kids to learn Bible tales if that's what they want to do.

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If it’s the case that the parents should be allowed to let others groom their children, then the entire point of society is to shame those parents until they course correct.

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I have no proof, but let me tell you how I feel. Let me tell you what the Bible says. Let me tell you what TikTok says. Here is an anecdote that doesn't fit my claims! Now, where is my chastity belt? I'm not an elitist trying to force my fears on the world! They're elitists because they're ignoring me!

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If it’s the case that the parents should be allowed to let others groom their children, then the entire point of society is to shame those parents until they course correct.


I'm fine with that.

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I have no proof, but let me tell you how I feel. Let me tell you what the Bible says. Let me tell you what TikTok says. Here is an anecdote that doesn't fit my claims! Now, where is my chastity belt? I'm not an elitist trying to force my fears on the world! They're elitists because they're ignoring me!



It's not an anecdote. It's my lived experience.

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Spaulding wrote:
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I would say this though. If parents want to send their kids to a private school where they learn about sexual fetishes, I think that's their right. I just don't think that stuff has any place in public education.


You'd be wrong.

I think Link has said parents don't belong in the classroom or shouldn't be allowed to dictate what a teacher teaches.

No they shouldn't. And the more you speak the more that particular point is validated by the way. And this really isn't an example of what I was talking about either.

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I have no proof, but let me tell you how I feel. Let me tell you what the Bible says. Let me tell you what TikTok says. Here is an anecdote that doesn't fit my claims! Now, where is my chastity belt? I'm not an elitist trying to force my fears on the world! They're elitists because they're ignoring me!

I suppose the groomer could have been lying when he described his approach to grooming. I imagine the school will fire him if that’s the case.

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A public school funded by taxpayer dollars and where the poorest among us have no choice but to send their children, that's a different story.

I get your point about a vocal minority attempting to mainstream this crap. But I'm sure Curious Hair might think some of what they teach at a Catholic school is abusive. I don't think he should be able to prevent parents from sending their kids to learn Bible tales if that's what they want to do.


Your point makes no sense. Even if this were taught in a public school I seriously doubt that it would be a required class. Which means that kids and their parents would still have the choice as to whether they want to enroll in the class or not.

And Public vs private isn't much relevant. Either it is appropriate for children to learn about this in school or it isn't. It doesn't matter whether it is a private or public school. What matters is whether it is "age appropriate"

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Public vs private isn't much relevant. Either it is appropriate for children to learn about this in school or it isn't. It doesn't matter whether it is a private or public school. What matters is whether it is "age appropriate"

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I have no proof, but let me tell you how I feel. Let me tell you what the Bible says. Let me tell you what TikTok says. Here is an anecdote that doesn't fit my claims! Now, where is my chastity belt? I'm not an elitist trying to force my fears on the world! They're elitists because they're ignoring me!



It's not an anecdote. It's my lived experience.


Even if true, it's an anecdote. If not, having actual proof of public schools bringing in gay and trans people to groom kids shouldn't be difficult. Especially with the number of phones kids have. Right now, outside of the church, it's the heterosexual folks who are doing the grooming. It's not happening in sex ed either.

This is homophobia and transphobia. This is another attempt at peddling fear of "other". Unlike in the past when it was, the balcks, Hispanics, Muslims, or Asians, "you're" telling folks to be afraid of your kids and other family members. That ignorance can lead to things that Ted Cruz experienced.

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I have no proof, but let me tell you how I feel. Let me tell you what the Bible says. Let me tell you what TikTok says. Here is an anecdote that doesn't fit my claims! Now, where is my chastity belt? I'm not an elitist trying to force my fears on the world! They're elitists because they're ignoring me!



It's not an anecdote. It's my lived experience.


Even if true, it's an anecdote. If not, having actual proof of public schools bringing in gay and trans people to groom kids shouldn't be difficult. Especially with the number of phones kids have. Right now, outside of the church, it's the heterosexual folks who are doing the grooming. It's not happening in sex ed either.

This is homophobia and transphobia. This is another attempt at peddling fear of "other". Unlike in the past when it was, the balcks, Hispanics, Muslims, or Asians, "you're" telling folks to be afraid of your kids and other family members. That ignorance can lead to things that Ted Cruz experienced.



It's not. What you're saying is homophobia. I don't think all gays want to talk about sex with children.

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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?

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just for context, Ignatius kids used to call Parker kids entitled wussies back in the day. You could not imagine on your deepest thinking day the levels of entitlement and wussiness it took to be able to validly hurl that insult.

Don't fret too much over this, they only have about 2 classrooms of kids per grade with almost none of them sticking around to infect this city (except for JB). If you think tuition is high, you should see their therapy bills.


I was not fond of the Parker kids 30-35 years ago. Im not sure the word we would of used was entitled wussies but... Well, the whole ISL was/is just various stages of entitled wussies to be fair.


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If it’s the case that the parents should be allowed to let others groom their children, then the entire point of society is to shame those parents until they course correct.

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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.

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So if a 9th grade health teacher gets asked whether you can pregnant while having sex in a pool, should that questioned be answered or should they be told to have a conversation with their parents?

At the first Catholic school I worked at they had these people come in who were teaching abstinence. They had them do this activity:

“Drink the spit” is an exercise that requires students to pass around a cup and spit in it. Then, students are asked if they would choose to drink that cup. The idea is the same as the chocolate or the tape lessons — having multiple sexual partners, and subsequently exchanging bodily fluids with multiple people, is undesirable. Sometimes the symbolism of this lesson gets pretty explicit. For instance, one variation involves pouring the cups of spit into an empty glass pitcher placed next to a pitcher of clean water. Students are asked to which pitcher they would like their “future husband” or “future wife” to come from.

- To add on to this I had to keep the dirty and clean pitchers of water in my classroom after the activity the rest of the day.

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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.

What’s the threshold age to find minors sexually attractive in your estimation?

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