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So if a 9th grade health teacher gets asked whether you can pregnant while having sex in a pool, should that questioned be answered or should they be told to have a conversation with their parents?

At the first Catholic school I worked at they had these people come in who were teaching abstinence. They had them do this activity:

“Drink the spit” is an exercise that requires students to pass around a cup and spit in it. Then, students are asked if they would choose to drink that cup. The idea is the same as the chocolate or the tape lessons — having multiple sexual partners, and subsequently exchanging bodily fluids with multiple people, is undesirable. Sometimes the symbolism of this lesson gets pretty explicit. For instance, one variation involves pouring the cups of spit into an empty glass pitcher placed next to a pitcher of clean water. Students are asked to which pitcher they would like their “future husband” or “future wife” to come from.

- To add on to this I had to keep the dirty and clean pitchers of water in my classroom after the activity the rest of the day.


There is a possibility of getting pregnant whenever you have sex, that's your answer.

Gross but probably effective activity. I would not make that part of the curriculum. Still better than the buttplug dildo extravaganza.


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The spit cup = sex only encourages degenerates to engage in said behavior.

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What’s the threshold age to find minors sexually attractive in your estimation?


Yeah, what is the threshold? Do you have any limits or is love love?


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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.


Aren't you the guy who thinks it's OK for a 25- or 30-year old man to have sex with a 14-year old boy because that's part of "gay culture"?

Was it you or somebody else who thinks that priests abusing teenagers isn't pedophilia because the kids have agency and might be manipulating the adults?

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Much of my sex education came from my girlfriends from 8th through 12th grades.

:lol:

This never happened.


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Much of my sex education came from my girlfriends from 8th through 12th grades.

:lol:

This never happened.


You still into dry fingering?

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Much of my sex education came from my girlfriends from 8th through 12th grades.

:lol:

This never happened.


You still into dry fingering?


Sorry buddy... try Craigslist.


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Much of my sex education came from my girlfriends from 8th through 12th grades.

:lol:

This never happened.


You still into dry fingering?


Sorry buddy... try Craigslist.


:lol:

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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?

I would hope not and I would also hope that you are not blatantly lying. But I have a feeling you are because how this post is written.... "I ain't sayin', I'm just sayin'".


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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Tall Midget wrote:
Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.

What’s the threshold age to find minors sexually attractive in your estimation?


I'm not sure. Who/what are you attracted to? If you have sexual feelings for a girl two days before her 18th birthday, are you a pedophile?

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Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.


Aren't you the guy who thinks it's OK for a 25- or 30-year old man to have sex with a 14-year old boy because that's part of "gay culture"?


Well no, because I don't think gay culture is okay.

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So if a 9th grade health teacher gets asked whether you can pregnant while having sex in a pool, should that questioned be answered or should they be told to have a conversation with their parents?


There is a possibility of getting pregnant whenever you have sex, that's your answer.



Why is that so hard?

You're teaching kids and it's tough for you to figure out how to answer that question without getting into the time you tried to bang your girlfriend in a hottub and she had a hard time lubing up?

How can it be that I attended school for 16 years and never once had a conversation about sex with a teacher, but it's suddenly impossible for a teacher to "do his or her job" without talking about sexual practices?

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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.

I wonder what the purpose of those commercials were anyway??

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.

What’s the threshold age to find minors sexually attractive in your estimation?


I'm not sure. Who/what are you attracted to? If you have sexual feelings for a girl two days before her 18th birthday, are you a pedophile?


Judge, please instruct the witness to answer the question.

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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.

I wonder what the purpose of those commercials were anyway??


Probably to sell jeans.

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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.

What’s the threshold age to find minors sexually attractive in your estimation?


I'm not sure. Who/what are you attracted to? If you have sexual feelings for a girl two days before her 18th birthday, are you a pedophile?


Judge, please instruct the witness to answer the question.


The major hallmark of this board has become a lot of smart people purposely acting as if they're not intelligent in order to attempt "dunks."

I don't expect a grown man to act on his base sexual attraction to a 16 year old who looks like a Playboy model, but his attraction to her certainly does not make him a pedophile.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.


Aren't you the guy who thinks it's OK for a 25- or 30-year old man to have sex with a 14-year old boy because that's part of "gay culture"?


Well no, because I don't think gay culture is okay.


Why does Indifferent/Atheist/Agnostic JORR care about consenting adults or kids sex life?

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Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.


Aren't you the guy who thinks it's OK for a 25- or 30-year old man to have sex with a 14-year old boy because that's part of "gay culture"?


Well no, because I don't think gay culture is okay.


Why does Indifferent/Atheist/Agnostic JORR care about consenting adults or kids sex life?


Or Spaulding and others too. I have absolutely no interest in knowing if and who kids are fucking unless it happens to have occurred inside the confines of a school building. Otherwise I couldn't give a flying fuck.

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Nas wrote:
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Tall Midget wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.


Aren't you the guy who thinks it's OK for a 25- or 30-year old man to have sex with a 14-year old boy because that's part of "gay culture"?


Well no, because I don't think gay culture is okay.


Why does Indifferent/Atheist/Agnostic JORR care about consenting adults or kids sex life?


Let me give you the background on what Midget was referencing.

I believe the converation began because Milo talked about his first sexual experiences that happened with much older men. Many straight people were scandalized by this at the time.

I pointed out that such relationships were common among homosexuals at the time when Milo was a teenager. There really wasn't any "Gay Pride" back in the 70s or 80s the way there is now. You'd be called a "burrito" and maybe have the shit beaten out of you. It's not like it is now where you go to class in a dress and you're celebrated for your "diversity."

So how would a young gay man find a relationship? Would he boldly ask another student he suspected of being gay on a date? That was pretty risky. Because even if the guy was gay, he might pretend he wasn't and start screaming "burrito!" at you and now you have all kinds of problems in school. So naturally, most gay men of that era had their first sexual encounters with older men. It's not really surprisng or shocking.

The fact is the sexual and social mores of the "Gay Commuunity" are much different than those of larger American society. I generally don't care what two- or more- consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, but when it starts being sold as a lifestyle "choice" and affecting the larger culture, I think it's fair to judge.

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But weren't you talking about a 14 or 15 year old having sex with a 25 year old? The age differential there isn't an issue to you?

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But weren't you talking about a 14 or 15 year old having sex with a 25 year old? The age differential there isn't an issue to you?


I think societies have to have standards. We have to draw a line somewhere, but it's obviously arbitrary.

Of course a 25 year old having a relationship with a 15 year old is taboo within the culture you and I are in. But I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Orthodox Jews and first generation Muslims and girls marrying older men at a very young age is quite common among these populations.

I suspect a lot of "liberal" people would be loathe to criticize that because it's "their culture." But you see the problem with that, right? Morality is all about judgment.

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But weren't you talking about a 14 or 15 year old having sex with a 25 year old? The age differential there isn't an issue to you?


I think societies have to have standards. We have to draw a line somewhere, but it's obviously arbitrary.

Of course a 25 year old having a relationship with a 15 year old is taboo within the culture you and I are in. But I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Orthodox Jews and first generation Muslims and girls marrying older men at a very young age is quite common among these populations.

I suspect a lot of "liberal" people would be loathe to criticize that because it's "their culture." But you see the problem with that, right? Morality is all about judgment.


So is it OK or not for a 14 year old to have sex with a 30 year old?

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Tall Midget wrote:
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But weren't you talking about a 14 or 15 year old having sex with a 25 year old? The age differential there isn't an issue to you?


I think societies have to have standards. We have to draw a line somewhere, but it's obviously arbitrary.

Of course a 25 year old having a relationship with a 15 year old is taboo within the culture you and I are in. But I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Orthodox Jews and first generation Muslims and girls marrying older men at a very young age is quite common among these populations.

I suspect a lot of "liberal" people would be loathe to criticize that because it's "their culture." But you see the problem with that, right? Morality is all about judgment.


So is it OK or not for a 14 year old to have sex with a 30 year old?


Of course it isn't okay.

But attraction to an underaged Traci Lords isn't pedophilia. It's normal healthy sexual desire. The societal standard is a guardrail. We are expected not to act on such desire because within our cuture a 16 year old is a child. In other cultures 16 year olds raise families and fight wars.

Frankly, it seems to me the modern custom of pussy shaving and men preferring such smacks of deep-seated pedophilic tendency.

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Feels like the groomer panic started in the last couple years or so.

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But weren't you talking about a 14 or 15 year old having sex with a 25 year old? The age differential there isn't an issue to you?


I think societies have to have standards. We have to draw a line somewhere, but it's obviously arbitrary.

Of course a 25 year old having a relationship with a 15 year old is taboo within the culture you and I are in. But I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Orthodox Jews and first generation Muslims and girls marrying older men at a very young age is quite common among these populations.

I suspect a lot of "liberal" people would be loathe to criticize that because it's "their culture." But you see the problem with that, right? Morality is all about judgment.


Spaulding isn't "liberal". And "very young age" isn't exactly the same as "underaged" either.

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So now that we've gotten that out of the way and established that a 14 year old cannot consent to having sex with a 30 year old, can the same 14 year old consent to having her boobs chopped off?

How about 16 year olds? Boston just granted them the right to vote.

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But weren't you talking about a 14 or 15 year old having sex with a 25 year old? The age differential there isn't an issue to you?


I think societies have to have standards. We have to draw a line somewhere, but it's obviously arbitrary.

Of course a 25 year old having a relationship with a 15 year old is taboo within the culture you and I are in. But I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Orthodox Jews and first generation Muslims and girls marrying older men at a very young age is quite common among these populations.

I suspect a lot of "liberal" people would be loathe to criticize that because it's "their culture." But you see the problem with that, right? Morality is all about judgment.


Spaulding isn't "liberal". And "very young age" isn't exactly the same as "underaged" either.


They're "underaged" by the standards of greater American society, 15 or 16 years old. Some have three or four children by the age of 19.

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:lol:

This never happened.


They taught him to fuck off.

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The spit cup = sex only encourages degenerates to engage in said behavior.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.


Aren't you the guy who thinks it's OK for a 25- or 30-year old man to have sex with a 14-year old boy because that's part of "gay culture"?


Well no, because I don't think gay culture is okay.


Why does Indifferent/Atheist/Agnostic JORR care about consenting adults or kids sex life?


Let me give you the background on what Midget was referencing.

I believe the converation began because Milo talked about his first sexual experiences that happened with much older men. Many straight people were scandalized by this at the time.

I pointed out that such relationships were common among homosexuals at the time when Milo was a teenager. There really wasn't any "Gay Pride" back in the 70s or 80s the way there is now. You'd be called a "burrito" and maybe have the shit beaten out of you. It's not like it is now where you go to class in a dress and you're celebrated for your "diversity."

So how would a young gay man find a relationship? Would he boldly ask another student he suspected of being gay on a date? That was pretty risky. Because even if the guy was gay, he might pretend he wasn't and start screaming "burrito!" at you and now you have all kinds of problems in school. So naturally, most gay men of that era had their first sexual encounters with older men. It's not really surprisng or shocking.

The fact is the sexual and social mores of the "Gay Commuunity" are much different than those of larger American society. I generally don't care what two- or more- consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, but when it starts being sold as a lifestyle "choice" and affecting the larger culture, I think it's fair to judge.


It's not being sold as a choice. No one is recruiting you or me to join a gay orgy. More boys/men are deciding to come out of the closet than they were 20+ years ago.

Homosexuality was pretty common throughout human history until a few hundred years ago. Churches completely changed that. The JORR I used to know, the JORR that was comfortable enough with his masculinity to dress in drag, that guy, he wouldn't give a shit what society said about who you should love. Besides, I thought punk rock was primarily about not conforming to societal norms. Wake that punk rock guy up. We miss him.

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