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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:02 am 
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I'm just not going to spend time worrying about the safety of Francis Parker kids. They have a battery of highly involved nannies to closely monitor their well being.

If it happens at a school I pay for or one to which I have a duty, I will speak up.

I do have to say, I'd certainly keep a watch on Mr. Bruno. He seems awfully enthusiastic about a topic the rest of us are a bit sheepish with...like the nun who taught me Chaucer.

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But weren't you talking about a 14 or 15 year old having sex with a 25 year old? The age differential there isn't an issue to you?


I think societies have to have standards. We have to draw a line somewhere, but it's obviously arbitrary.

Of course a 25 year old having a relationship with a 15 year old is taboo within the culture you and I are in. But I live in a neighborhood with a lot of Orthodox Jews and first generation Muslims and girls marrying older men at a very young age is quite common among these populations.

I suspect a lot of "liberal" people would be loathe to criticize that because it's "their culture." But you see the problem with that, right? Morality is all about judgment.


Spaulding isn't "liberal". And "very young age" isn't exactly the same as "underaged" either.


They're "underaged" by the standards of greater American society, 15 or 16 years old. Some have three or four children by the age of 19.


Of course it's by the standards of "American society". But "young age" is still not the same as "underaged".

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Feels like the groomer panic started in the last couple years or so.

Groomers got overly comfortable when the left embraced people who rebranded pedophiles as MAPs.

It led them to overreach in the great Culture War and begat Chaya Raichik.

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Maybe I'm getting my CFMB perverts mixed up here, but isn't JORR the guy who argues that a lot of what's called pedophilia shouldn't be considered such because the sex is between an adult and 13-15-year-olds, who are interested in hookups with said adults and may have manipulated them into sex?



I don't think a guy who gets a boner over a teenage Brooke Shields in a Calvin Klein commerical is equivalent to a guy who is sexually aroused by toddlers, if that's what you mean.


Aren't you the guy who thinks it's OK for a 25- or 30-year old man to have sex with a 14-year old boy because that's part of "gay culture"?


Well no, because I don't think gay culture is okay.


Why does Indifferent/Atheist/Agnostic JORR care about consenting adults or kids sex life?


Or Spaulding and others too. I have absolutely no interest in knowing if and who kids are fucking unless it happens to have occurred inside the confines of a school building. Otherwise I couldn't give a flying fuck.


While I strongly disagree with the fear peddling Spaulding does, for what I suspect are for political reasons, I at least know she's a lifelong Catholic.

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I'm just not going to spend time worrying about the safety of Francis Parker kids. They have a battery of highly involved nannies to closely monitor their well being.

If it happens at a school I pay for or one to which I have a duty, I will speak up.

I do have to say, I'd certainly keep a watch on Mr. Bruno. He seems awfully enthusiastic about a topic the rest of us are a bit sheepish with...like the nun who taught me Chaucer.


This guy (Bruno) makes me think of Mr. Garrison and The Ballad of Lemmiwinks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr6naXw3F-4

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Its on the parents of the students at Francis Parker to complain about this. This occurred in May. Why did it take some dude from a right wing organization to piss a bitch about this for everyone to make a big deal out of it? Just Asking A Question

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Well, this was a strange one.

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Its on the parents of the students at Francis Parker to complain about this. This occurred in May. Why did it take some dude from a right wing organization to piss a bitch about this for everyone to make a big deal out of it? Just Asking A Question

Parents either didn’t pay enough attention, kids didn’t want to tell their parents and have an extremely awkward conversation, or parents didn’t care. Somebody had to have tipped Keefe off; I can’t imagine he’s plugged in at tiny rich people schools in Chicago.

Either way, sunlight is the best disinfectant. The school stands by butt plug man and there hasn’t been any public pushback from the parents. Lets you know where everybody stands.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Its on the parents of the students at Francis Parker to complain about this. This occurred in May. Why did it take some dude from a right wing organization to piss a bitch about this for everyone to make a big deal out of it? Just Asking A Question

Parents either didn’t pay enough attention, kids didn’t want to tell their parents and have an extremely awkward conversation, or parents didn’t care. Somebody had to have tipped Keefe off; I can’t imagine he’s plugged in at tiny rich people schools in Chicago.

Either way, sunlight is the best disinfectant. The school stands by butt plug man and there hasn’t been any public pushback from the parents. Lets you know where everybody stands.


I'm 100% certain that there was at least one parent that knew. If it were really a big deal with them then the guy from the Right Wing Hack organization would not have had to go "undercover" in order to unearth the information.

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The Missing Link wrote:
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Its on the parents of the students at Francis Parker to complain about this. This occurred in May. Why did it take some dude from a right wing organization to piss a bitch about this for everyone to make a big deal out of it? Just Asking A Question

Parents either didn’t pay enough attention, kids didn’t want to tell their parents and have an extremely awkward conversation, or parents didn’t care. Somebody had to have tipped Keefe off; I can’t imagine he’s plugged in at tiny rich people schools in Chicago.

Either way, sunlight is the best disinfectant. The school stands by butt plug man and there hasn’t been any public pushback from the parents. Lets you know where everybody stands.


I'm 100% certain that there was at least one parent that knew. If it were really a big deal then the guy from the Right Wing Hack organization would not have had to go "undercover" in order to unearth the information.

The 2nd sentence doesn’t track. It’s because it’s a big deal that the guy went undercover.

Bruno wasn’t out there advocating publicly for sex toy seminars for children. He did it privately and everybody involved likely wishes it had stayed that way.

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Feels like the groomer panic started in the last couple years or so.

Groomers got overly comfortable when the left embraced people who rebranded pedophiles as MAPs.

It led them to overreach in the great Culture War and begat Chaya Raichik.

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It's not being sold as a choice. No one is recruiting you or me to join a gay orgy. More boys/men are deciding to come out of the closet than they were 20+ years ago.

Homosexuality was pretty common throughout human history until a few hundred years ago. Churches completely changed that. The JORR I used to know, the JORR that was comfortable enough with his masculinity to dress in drag, that guy, he wouldn't give a shit what society said about who you should love. Besides, I thought punk rock was primarily about not conforming to societal norms. Wake that punk rock guy up. We miss him.


:lol: It is being pitched to kids though. Why the fascination with reading to them in libraries?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The 2nd sentence doesn’t track. It’s because it’s a big deal that the guy went undercover.

It's ONLY a big deal to the Right Wing Hack Organization and few "likeminded" people here that continuously act as if it is a "big deal". Its obviously not a big deal to the parents, the school, or the Board of Trustees or else you would not have had to hear about it from the Right Wing Hack Organization in the first place
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Bruno wasn’t out there advocating publicly for sex toy seminars for children. He did it privately and everybody involved likely wishes it had stayed that way.

Why does he have to "advocate publicly" for it? He isn't leading a political campaign. The people that mattered most "knew" about it and had a choice as to whether they wanted to participate or not. There was nothing "secretive" about what he did.

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Then groomers and their defenders wouldn’t give a shit that it’s out there now.

Do you support having people come in to a classroom to discuss dildos and butt plugs with children?

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It's not being sold as a choice. No one is recruiting you or me to join a gay orgy. More boys/men are deciding to come out of the closet than they were 20+ years ago.

Homosexuality was pretty common throughout human history until a few hundred years ago. Churches completely changed that. The JORR I used to know, the JORR that was comfortable enough with his masculinity to dress in drag, that guy, he wouldn't give a shit what society said about who you should love. Besides, I thought punk rock was primarily about not conforming to societal norms. Wake that punk rock guy up. We miss him.


:lol: It is being pitched to kids though. Why the fascination with reading to them in libraries?

And the specific story that sparked 8 pages is also about children, but sure, nobody’s pushing anything on kids.

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Then groomers and their defenders wouldn’t give a shit that it’s out there now.

I don't think this is necessarily what's happening. I told hacks like you that this sort of thing really isn't much of a big deal and the parents of Francis Parker just validated that it wasn't. If it were they would be bitching and "moaning" (no pun intended) about it. They aren't or else this dude would have been shitcanned months ago. Remember he doesn't have the "luxury" of hiding behind "union protection". Instead all "we" have are a bunch of right wing hacks on the internet acting as our "moral authority" on this. Sorry but I'm gonna need just a little bit more than the rantings of loons like Spaulding and Jorr to go off of before I'm convinced that this sort of thing is catastrophic
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Do you support having people come in to a classroom to discuss dildos and butt plugs with children?

If it is a sex education seminar (which is what this was) then I have no problem with it. In a class about Mathematical equations then no. This was a seminar about "sex ed" so what do you think they were going to discuss? Baking tips courtesy of Spaulding?

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I am really naive, I had no idea what a Groomer was when I saw this topic.

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Schools aren't encouraging kids to be gay.

Young Nas was shown photos of penises and vaginas that were diseased. The photos made young Nas uncomfortable and scratch. I'm assuming they were designed to encourage young Nas to use a condom or not have sex. They were photos that I wouldn't show to my kids 25+ years later. That said, I wouldn't freak out if my teenage kids saw the photos. I also wouldn't freak out if my teenage kids saw a sex ed presentation that had a dildo in it. It's used to teach kids the proper way to wear a condom. Something young Nas initially got wrong.

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The girls in that hot tub for sure looked at least 19!

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Then groomers and their defenders wouldn’t give a shit that it’s out there now.

I don't think this is necessarily what's happening. I told hacks like you that this sort of thing really isn't much of a big deal and the parents of Francis Parker just validated that it wasn't. If it were they would be bitching and "moaning" (no pun intended) about it. They aren't or else this dude would have been shitcanned months ago. Remember he doesn't have the "luxury" of hiding behind "union protection". Instead all "we" have are a bunch of right wing hacks on the internet acting as our "moral authority" on this. Sorry but I'm gonna need just a little bit more than the rantings of loons like Spaulding and Jorr to go off of before I'm convinced that this sort of thing is catastrophic
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Do you support having people come in to a classroom to discuss dildos and butt plugs with children?

If it is a sex education seminar (which is what this was) then I have no problem with it. In a class about Mathematical equations then no. This was a seminar about "sex ed" so what do you think they were going to discuss? Baking tips courtesy of Spaulding?

And that’s why us right wing hacks point out when people would rather defend groomers than agree with people they otherwise find disagreeable.

You’d rather support a guy handing dildos to children than have an opinion on morality where you’re not directly impacted.

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Young Nas was shown photos of penises and vaginas that were diseased.


This sentence is pretty funny. And strange.

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Young Nas was shown photos of penises and vaginas that were diseased.


This sentence is pretty funny. And strange.


We had a 95 year old lady teach sex ed at Simeon. She talked a lot about sexually transmitted diseases and showed us photos of what certain conditions looked like on a male and female. The school also brought in an attractive woman who was dying from AIDS to scare us straight. Teen pregnancies sky rocketed after our sophomore sex ed class.

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And that’s why us right wing hacks point out when people would rather defend groomers than agree with people they otherwise find disagreeable.

Right wing Hacks cannot even establish what constitutes "grooming". You dudes (and Spaulding) throw the term around without actually knowing what the term means. With this being the case why would anyone ever bother listening to you about anything? Just Asking A Question
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You’d rather support a guy handing dildos to children than have an opinion on morality where you’re not directly impacted.

You aren't "directly impacted" either. Unless you have children that attend Francis Parker. And seeing as those "directly impacted" didn't bother to make a big deal out of it, then why do you? or Jorr? or Spaulding? Its up to them piss a bitch if they want to. They didn't which says a helluva lot more about the "severity" of the situation than you or the other hacks on here ever could

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And that’s why us right wing hacks point out when people would rather defend groomers than agree with people they otherwise find disagreeable.

Right wing Hacks cannot even establish what constitutes "grooming". You dudes (and Spaulding) throw the term around without actually knowing what the term means. With this being the case why would anyone ever bother listening to you about anything? Just Asking A Question

Grown men handing butt plugs to adolescents and discussing the merits of various lubricants for anal is right down the fairway.
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You’d rather support a guy handing dildos to children than have an opinion on morality where you’re not directly impacted.

You aren't "directly impacted" either. Unless you have children that attend Francis Parker. And seeing as those "directly impacted" didn't bother to make a big deal out of it, then why do you? or Jorr? or Spaulding? Its up to them piss a bitch if they want to. They didn't which says a helluva lot more about the "severity" of the situation than you or the other hacks on here ever could

Reading comprehension friend. Ignoring bad behavior because you’re not personally impacted is a bad thing. Some parents are bad at being parents. I believe we went over this during COVID.

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The girls in that hot tub for sure looked at least 19!


They were at prom, so definitely at least 18, probably older in Wisconsin

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
And that’s why us right wing hacks point out when people would rather defend groomers than agree with people they otherwise find disagreeable.

Right wing Hacks cannot even establish what constitutes "grooming". You dudes (and Spaulding) throw the term around without actually knowing what the term means. With this being the case why would anyone ever bother listening to you about anything? Just Asking A Question

Grown men handing butt plugs to adolescents and discussing the merits of various lubricants for anal is right down the fairway.
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You’d rather support a guy handing dildos to children than have an opinion on morality where you’re not directly impacted.

You aren't "directly impacted" either. Unless you have children that attend Francis Parker. And seeing as those "directly impacted" didn't bother to make a big deal out of it, then why do you? or Jorr? or Spaulding? Its up to them piss a bitch if they want to. They didn't which says a helluva lot more about the "severity" of the situation than you or the other hacks on here ever could

Reading comprehension friend. Ignoring bad behavior because you’re not personally impacted is a bad thing. Some parents are bad at being parents. I believe we went over this during COVID.


The overwhelming majority of parents at Francis Parker aren't bad simply because you believe that Educating children about sex during a Sex Ed seminar is a catastrophic event. And again you might want to brush up your "comprehension skills" regarding what is and is not "grooming" because this isn't it.

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