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Has anyone confirmed that this actually occurred, and that Dean Fa*ula wasn't simply trying to impress some other Count Fa*ulas at the bar? Students Chad Hardman and Bruce Balzeker couldn't be reached for comment.


Yeah kids film everything that happens in school. You would think there would be pictures and videos floating around some where.

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Hasn't the school said that the video distorts what the class/seminar is like and that it also neglects to mention that the class is voluntary rather than mandatory?

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They can't afford phones because they spent all of their money on tuition and dildos.

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Hasn't the school said that the video distorts what the class/seminar is like and that it also neglects to mention that the class is voluntary rather than mandatory?
yep but that doesn't much matter when it comes to the brigade

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What do they bring in for the hetero portion of sex ed? A Real Doll?

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What do they bring in for the hetero portion of sex ed? A Real Doll?

Let everyone have a go


They only have time for gay and whatever trans sex is.

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So if a 9th grade health teacher gets asked whether you can pregnant while having sex in a pool, should that questioned be answered or should they be told to have a conversation with their parents?
What about getting gonorrhea from riding a tractor in your bathing suit?

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So if a 9th grade health teacher gets asked whether you can pregnant while having sex in a pool, should that questioned be answered or should they be told to have a conversation with their parents?
What about getting gonorrhea from riding a tractor in your bathing suit?


That actually happened to me in high school.

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So if a 9th grade health teacher gets asked whether you can pregnant while having sex in a pool, should that questioned be answered or should they be told to have a conversation with their parents?
What about getting gonorrhea from riding a tractor in your bathing suit?


That actually happened to me in high school.

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And that’s why us right wing hacks point out when people would rather defend groomers than agree with people they otherwise find disagreeable.

Right wing Hacks cannot even establish what constitutes "grooming". You dudes (and Spaulding) throw the term around without actually knowing what the term means. With this being the case why would anyone ever bother listening to you about anything? Just Asking A Question

Grown men handing butt plugs to adolescents and discussing the merits of various lubricants for anal is right down the fairway.
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You’d rather support a guy handing dildos to children than have an opinion on morality where you’re not directly impacted.

You aren't "directly impacted" either. Unless you have children that attend Francis Parker. And seeing as those "directly impacted" didn't bother to make a big deal out of it, then why do you? or Jorr? or Spaulding? Its up to them piss a bitch if they want to. They didn't which says a helluva lot more about the "severity" of the situation than you or the other hacks on here ever could

Reading comprehension friend. Ignoring bad behavior because you’re not personally impacted is a bad thing. Some parents are bad at being parents. I believe we went over this during COVID.


The overwhelming majority of parents at Francis Parker aren't bad simply because you believe that Educating children about sex during a Sex Ed seminar is a catastrophic event. And again you might want to brush up your "comprehension skills" regarding what is and is not "grooming" because this isn't it.

Now you’re speaking on behalf of the majority of the kids’ parents?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The reason you can’t be explicit in supporting this and euphemize butt-plug-lube-training as ‘Sex Ed’ is obvious.

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Hasn't the school said that the video distorts what the class/seminar is like and that it also neglects to mention that the class is voluntary rather than mandatory?

Here’s the statement to parents…

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Now you’re speaking on behalf of the majority of the kids’ parents?.

They had 7 months to "speak" for themselves and decided that it wasn't all that important to do so. It isn't hard to ascertain why. And considering the amount of "affluence" that their parents have, if they wanted to "speak" about this they could have and made it roar for both the teacher and the school.

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The reason you can’t be explicit in supporting this and euphemize butt-plug-lube-training as ‘Sex Ed’ is obvious.

Its because it is considered "sex ed". And to demonstrate how ignorant you and MANY are here, if anything approaching what you and the other loons asserted (grooming) would have occurred, then DCFS would have been stepped in and the teacher would have been suspended or removed pending an "investigation". That is sort of how its done in these "situations".

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Now you’re speaking on behalf of the majority of the kids’ parents?.

They had 7 months to "speak" for themselves and decided that it wasn't all that important to do so. It isn't hard to ascertain why. And considering the amount of "affluence" that their parents have, if they wanted to "speak" about this they could have and made it roar for both the teacher and the school.

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The reason you can’t be explicit in supporting this and euphemize butt-plug-lube-training as ‘Sex Ed’ is obvious.

Its because it is considered "sex ed". And to demonstrate how ignorant you and MANY are here, if anything approaching what you and the other loons asserted (grooming) would have occurred, then DCFS would have been stepped in and the teacher would have been suspended or removed pending an "investigation". That is sort of how its done in these "situations".


Sound like a groomer.


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Sound like a groomer.


And you "sound" like a Right Wing Loon.

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Now you’re speaking on behalf of the majority of the kids’ parents?.

They had 7 months to "speak" for themselves and decided that it wasn't all that important to do so. It isn't hard to ascertain why. And considering the amount of "affluence" that their parents have, if they wanted to "speak" about this they could have and made it roar for both the teacher and the school.

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The reason you can’t be explicit in supporting this and euphemize butt-plug-lube-training as ‘Sex Ed’ is obvious.

It’s because it is considered "sex ed". And to demonstrate how ignorant you and MANY are here, if anything approaching what you and the other loons asserted (grooming) would have occurred, then DCFS would have been stepped in and the teacher would have been suspended or removed pending an "investigation". That is sort of how it’s done in these "situations".

To summarize your argument…the grooming was fine because the parents didn’t mind the grooming and you speak on behalf of the overwhelming majority of them and also it didn’t really happen anyway despite the groomer saying it happened.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
To summarize your argument…the grooming was fine because the parents didn’t mind the grooming and you speak on behalf of the overwhelming majority of them and also it didn’t really happen anyway despite the groomer saying it happened.


You (along with the other loons here) really do need an "education" on just what constitutes "grooming" don't you? Just Asking A Question. Perhaps the people over at Francis Parker can provide you with a "crash course" on the subject seeing as and other loons here have such an obvious interest in it.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
To summarize your argument…the grooming was fine because the parents didn’t mind the grooming and you speak on behalf of the overwhelming majority of them and also it didn’t really happen anyway despite the groomer saying it happened.


You (along with the other loons here) really do need an "education" on just what constitutes "grooming" don't you? Just Asking A Question. Perhaps the people over at Francis Parker can provide you with a "crash course" on the subject seeing as and other loons here have such an obvious interest in it.

I’ll take that as an admission the people of Francis Parker know more about grooming than us non-grooming loons.

We finally agree on something.

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I’ll take that as an admission the people of Francis Parker know more about grooming than us non-grooming loons.

No doubt that is why they didn't have a problem with the guy providing dildos and lube during a seminar on Sex Education. Neither did their admins, parents, trustees or DCFS.
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We finally agree on something.

Do "WE"? Just Asking A Question.

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I’ll take that as an admission the people of Francis Parker know more about grooming than us non-grooming loons.

No doubt that is why they didn't have a problem with the guy providing dildos and lube during a seminar on Sex Education. Neither did their parents, trustees or DCFS.
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We finally agree on something.

Do "WE"? Just Asking A Question.

We did. Right above. You acknowledged the broader Francis Parker community as groomers - a step further than I’d go, but fair enough.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
We did. Right above. You acknowledged the broader Francis Parker community as groomers - a step further than I’d go, but fair enough.

I "acknowledge" that they know more about "grooming" than the right wing loons that run that organization and those that have posted here about it that's for sure. But considering what I read here on the matter, its hardly considered a "tall task".
As previously stated, the Right Wing Loon Brigade doesn't "define" what constitutes "grooming" or non "grooming" much to their chagrin and yours apparently.

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We did. Right above. You acknowledged the broader Francis Parker community as groomers - a step further than I’d go, but fair enough.


As previously stated, the Right Wing Loon Brigade doesn't "define" what constitutes "grooming" or non "grooming" much to their chagrin and yours apparently.

It’s too important a definition to be left to the groomers and their defenders.

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It’s too important a definition to be left to the groomers and their defenders.

With this being the case then why don't you and the other loons go down to Francis Parker and simply express your "concerns" regarding the misuse of the word? Just Asking A Question.

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So how exactly is this incident/class an example of grooming?

Here's the definition from RAINN:

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One tool common to those who sexually abuse kids is grooming: manipulative behaviors that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught. While these tactics are used most often against younger kids, teens and vulnerable adults are also at risk.

Grooming can take place online or in-person. It’s usually employed by a family member or someone else in the victim’s circle of trust, such as a coach, teacher, youth group leader or others who naturally have some interaction with the victim.

Though grooming can take many different forms, it often follows a similar pattern.

Victim selection: Abusers often observe possible victims and select them based on ease of access to them or their perceived vulnerability.
Gaining access and isolating the victim: Abusers will attempt to physically or emotionally separate a victim from those protecting them and often seek out positions in which they have contact with minors.
Trust development and keeping secrets: Abusers attempt to gain trust of a potential victim through gifts, attention, sharing “secrets” and other means to make them feel that they have a caring relationship and to train them to keep the relationship secret.
Desensitization to touch and discussion of sexual topics: Abusers will often start to touch a victim in ways that appear harmless, such as hugging, wrestling and tickling, and later escalate to increasingly more sexual contact, such as massages or showering together. Abusers may also show the victim pornography or discuss sexual topics with them, to introduce the idea of sexual contact.
Attempt by abusers to make their behavior seem natural, to avoid raising suspicions. For teens, who may be closer in age to the abuser, it can be particularly hard to recognize tactics used in grooming. Be alert for signs that your teen has a relationship with an adult that includes secrecy, undue influence or control, or pushes personal boundaries.

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So how exactly is this incident/class an example of grooming?

Here's the definition from RAINN:

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One tool common to those who sexually abuse kids is grooming: manipulative behaviors that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught. While these tactics are used most often against younger kids, teens and vulnerable adults are also at risk.

Grooming can take place online or in-person. It’s usually employed by a family member or someone else in the victim’s circle of trust, such as a coach, teacher, youth group leader or others who naturally have some interaction with the victim.

Though grooming can take many different forms, it often follows a similar pattern.

Victim selection: Abusers often observe possible victims and select them based on ease of access to them or their perceived vulnerability.
Gaining access and isolating the victim: Abusers will attempt to physically or emotionally separate a victim from those protecting them and often seek out positions in which they have contact with minors.
Trust development and keeping secrets: Abusers attempt to gain trust of a potential victim through gifts, attention, sharing “secrets” and other means to make them feel that they have a caring relationship and to train them to keep the relationship secret.
Desensitization to touch and discussion of sexual topics: Abusers will often start to touch a victim in ways that appear harmless, such as hugging, wrestling and tickling, and later escalate to increasingly more sexual contact, such as massages or showering together. Abusers may also show the victim pornography or discuss sexual topics with them, to introduce the idea of sexual contact.
Attempt by abusers to make their behavior seem natural, to avoid raising suspicions. For teens, who may be closer in age to the abuser, it can be particularly hard to recognize tactics used in grooming. Be alert for signs that your teen has a relationship with an adult that includes secrecy, undue influence or control, or pushes personal boundaries.


Woah! Woah! Woah! Chief. So you mean to tell me that TEIA and his merry band of loons on here have been incorrectly using and defining what constitutes "grooming" the entire time? I'm shocked and flabbergasted by the thought that this would be the case given the personnel involved here.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
To summarize your argument…the grooming was fine because the parents didn’t mind the grooming and you speak on behalf of the overwhelming majority of them and also it didn’t really happen anyway despite the groomer saying it happened.


You (along with the other loons here) really do need an "education" on just what constitutes "grooming" don't you? Just Asking A Question. Perhaps the people over at Francis Parker can provide you with a "crash course" on the subject seeing as and other loons here have such an obvious interest in it.

This may be the only place I have even heard a mention of groomers. But then again I rarely watch cable news and don’t waste my time on the crackpot idiots on Twitter like many of the perpetually aggrieved right wingers here.

These hypocritical busybodies amuse the hell out of me. Serious laughter at them

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Tall Midget wrote:
So how exactly is this incident/class an example of grooming?

Here's the definition from RAINN:

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One tool common to those who sexually abuse kids is grooming: manipulative behaviors that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught. While these tactics are used most often against younger kids, teens and vulnerable adults are also at risk.

Grooming can take place online or in-person. It’s usually employed by a family member or someone else in the victim’s circle of trust, such as a coach, teacher, youth group leader or others who naturally have some interaction with the victim.

Though grooming can take many different forms, it often follows a similar pattern.

Victim selection: Abusers often observe possible victims and select them based on ease of access to them or their perceived vulnerability.
Gaining access and isolating the victim: Abusers will attempt to physically or emotionally separate a victim from those protecting them and often seek out positions in which they have contact with minors.
Trust development and keeping secrets: Abusers attempt to gain trust of a potential victim through gifts, attention, sharing “secrets” and other means to make them feel that they have a caring relationship and to train them to keep the relationship secret.
Desensitization to touch and discussion of sexual topics: Abusers will often start to touch a victim in ways that appear harmless, such as hugging, wrestling and tickling, and later escalate to increasingly more sexual contact, such as massages or showering together. Abusers may also show the victim pornography or discuss sexual topics with them, to introduce the idea of sexual contact.
Attempt by abusers to make their behavior seem natural, to avoid raising suspicions. For teens, who may be closer in age to the abuser, it can be particularly hard to recognize tactics used in grooming. Be alert for signs that your teen has a relationship with an adult that includes secrecy, undue influence or control, or pushes personal boundaries.

Did you actually read that whole thing? The part on desensitization, discussion of sexual topics, attempts to make behavior seem natural…hell, I’m suspicious they were open & honest with the parents despite Francis Parker spokesxerson LTG insisting otherwise.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
To summarize your argument…the grooming was fine because the parents didn’t mind the grooming and you speak on behalf of the overwhelming majority of them and also it didn’t really happen anyway despite the groomer saying it happened.


You (along with the other loons here) really do need an "education" on just what constitutes "grooming" don't you? Just Asking A Question. Perhaps the people over at Francis Parker can provide you with a "crash course" on the subject seeing as and other loons here have such an obvious interest in it.

This may be the only place I have even heard a mention of groomers. But then again I rarely watch cable news and don’t waste my time on the crackpot idiots on Twitter like many of the perpetually aggrieved right wingers here.

These hypocritical busybodies amuse the hell out of me. Serious laughter at them

Your lack of concern for other people is touching.

Not touching in like a Francis Parker, grooming butt plug type way…maybe heartfelt is a better adjective.

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