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It wasn't an attack any more than the investigative reporters of the past attacked their subjects. I would expect a clickbait article to use that in a headline. I'd expect better from a reputable newspaper.



Those who claim that words/opinions can be violence never believe such standard applies to their own speech. Nancy Mace laid that bare in her exchange with Alejandra Caraballo.

Yes, but...are you saying that they're all wrong? The Right clearly in this clip thinks that words are violence. Mace is carrying more than mace.


I think Mace does believe words can be violence. She's wrong too.

Oh, ok.

I don't know if I believe that words can be "violence," but they can clearly be harmful, and often are meant to be. Still, if you are arguing for a standard, best to stick to it yourself. Otherwise, your opponents get an easy slam dunk (among other complications).

Also >>> Mace: Wouldst.


What do you mean by "harmful"? You mean they can hurt people's feelings? Yeah, I guess. Regular Reader has caused me great harm on this message board. So what?

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Repeatedly referring to the guy as a "groomer" based solely on this is an "attack" on him whether you "consider" it to be or not.


The Sun Times described it differently in the first paragraph of the story, so the reporter and the headline editor don't seem to have the same opinion of the incident as reported. Best to go with the opinion of the person who did not do the fact finding and whose job it is to get people to be interested only after reading a few words.

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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


How about you read what they have written over the past 3-4 days? Or does it actually matter? Just Asking Questions

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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It wasn't an attack any more than the investigative reporters of the past attacked their subjects. I would expect a clickbait article to use that in a headline. I'd expect better from a reputable newspaper.



Those who claim that words/opinions can be violence never believe such standard applies to their own speech. Nancy Mace laid that bare in her exchange with Alejandra Caraballo.

Yes, but...are you saying that they're all wrong? The Right clearly in this clip thinks that words are violence. Mace is carrying more than mace.


I think Mace does believe words can be violence. She's wrong too.

Oh, ok.

I don't know if I believe that words can be "violence," but they can clearly be harmful, and often are meant to be. Still, if you are arguing for a standard, best to stick to it yourself. Otherwise, your opponents get an easy slam dunk (among other complications).

Also >>> Mace: Wouldst.


What do you mean by "harmful"? You mean they can hurt people's feelings? Yeah, I guess. Regular Reader has caused me great harm on this message board. So what?

Well, as we all know, in the political realm, there are lots of types of speech not covered by the 1A, and for good reason.

There are civil issues, too; you can get sued for various types of harassment, and workplace toxicity and bullying might even be next.

Outside the realm of politics, it's also pretty clear that the media controls much of the narrative we hear. Even when they are on the level, the media writes a shitty first draft of history.

Psychologically, most immature people seem unable to deal with bullying or demeaning language; one of the hallmarks of becoming mature is to find a way to deal with this. But for the immature, especially kids, many uses of language can be devastating and abusive. I realize that ya gotta figure this out, but it's hard to ask kids to do this.

The "hurt your feelings" argument is strawman. There are actual consequences to language, and some are really harmful. Others, you are expected to be able to deal with them, if you're an adult.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."

LTG is my guy! But come on, LTG....

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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."

You've spent years touting a groomer weirdo like Glenn Greenwald and defending all things of the pedophile trump and wonder why many consider you a hypocritical right wing loon here? As usual.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
There are actual consequences to language


Right, but those consequences have been weighed against the consequences of government's ability to limit language and the First Amendment exists. Who do you think has the magic power to decide what language is harmful? Joe Biden? Alejandro Caraballo? Regular Reader? Me?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."


And you are too stupid to understand that referring to someone as off his rocker as you are as a "loon" is "most appropriate" given the way that you comport yourself on this message board. You are the poster child for Right Wing Lunatics around here.

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Regular Reader wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."

You've spent years touting a groomer weirdo like Glenn Greenwald and defending all things of the pedophile trump and wonder why many consider you a hypocritical right wing loon here? As usual.



This attack is extremely harmful.

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There are actual consequences to language


Right, but those consequences have been weighed against the consequences of government's ability to limit language and the First Amendment exists. Who do you think has the magic power to decide what language is harmful? Joe Biden? Alejandro Caraballo? Regular Reader? Me?
That's why you let the free market decide.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."

LTG is my guy! But come on, LTG....


Caller Bob (among others here) literally stated that the parents of the impacted children were complicit in the "grooming" of their children. That is Alex Jones level lunacy in a nutshell.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."


I don't know about that. All labels don't have the same power.

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The Missing Link wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."

LTG is my guy! But come on, LTG....


Caller Bob (among others here) literally stated that the parents of the impacted children were complicit in the "grooming" of their children. That is Alex Jones level lunacy in a nutshell.


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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."


I don't know about that. All labels don't have the same power.

That idiot is too stupid to actually comprehend how the 2 might not actually be quite the same anyway. One gets you labeled a sex offender while the other is merely a "harmful word"

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Caller Bob wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."

LTG is my guy! But come on, LTG....


Caller Bob (among others here) literally stated that the parents of the impacted children were complicit in the "grooming" of their children. That is Alex Jones level lunacy in a nutshell.


The Left endorses pedophilia, that is a fact


But what does this have to do with the parents of the kids from Frances Parker? Just Asking A Question

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“He isn’t a groomer because wealthy people haven’t complained about him” is quite the take.

Also, do we know for sure this groomer is gay? I’ve seen one poster make that claim but only in a weird, contorted defense of the guy’s grooming proclivities.

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“He isn’t a groomer because wealthy people haven’t complained about him” is quite the take.

Conveniently omitting that those "wealthy people" just happen to be the parents of the kids "most impacted" is actually "quite the take", and an extremely disingenuous one at that. Par for the course with this crowd however.

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“He isn’t a groomer because wealthy people haven’t complained about him” is quite the take.

Conveniently omitting that those "wealthy people" just happen to be the parents of the kids "most impacted" is actually "quite the take", and an extremely disingenuous one at that. Par for the course with this crowd however.

I was doing you a service.

“He isn’t a groomer because parents who let their adolescent children opt into butt plug lessons at school haven’t complained about him” is an even worse take.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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“He isn’t a groomer because wealthy people haven’t complained about him” is quite the take.

Conveniently omitting that those "wealthy people" just happen to be the parents of the kids "most impacted" is actually "quite the take", and an extremely disingenuous one at that. Par for the course with this crowd however.

I was doing you a service.

“He isn’t a groomer because parents who let their adolescent children opt into butt plug lessons at school haven’t complained about him” is an even worse take.

"lessons". Even more dishonesty. And you might want to do yourself a favor and brush up on just what constitutes "grooming" but that might require you to read things other than PJ Media and Christopher Rufo and the latest post from noted Right Wing Loon Jorr.

Are you sure that you are prepared to do that? Just Asking A Question

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The Missing Link wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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“He isn’t a groomer because wealthy people haven’t complained about him” is quite the take.

Conveniently omitting that those "wealthy people" just happen to be the parents of the kids "most impacted" is actually "quite the take", and an extremely disingenuous one at that. Par for the course with this crowd however.

I was doing you a service.

“He isn’t a groomer because parents who let their adolescent children opt into butt plug lessons at school haven’t complained about him” is an even worse take.

"lessons". Even more dishonesty. And you might want to do yourself a favor and brush up on just what constitutes "grooming" but that might require you to read things other than PJ Media and Christopher Rufo and the latest post from noted Right Wing Loon Jorr.

Are you sure that you are prepared to do that? Just Asking A Question

Are you calling the groomer a liar and saying he didn’t groom in the way he said he groomed?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Are you calling the groomer a liar and saying he didn’t groom in the way he said he groomed?

Are you currently lying about this guy being a "groomer"? Just Asking A Question

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Are you calling the groomer a liar and saying he didn’t groom in the way he said he groomed?

Are you currently lying about this guy being a "groomer"? Just Asking A Question

No.

Do you support what he did?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Are you calling the groomer a liar and saying he didn’t groom in the way he said he groomed?

Are you currently lying about this guy being a "groomer"? Just Asking A Question

No.

Do you support what he did?

Actually you are lying because the people "impacted" most by it are not accusing him of it.
"What He Did" was not grooming. And to think that a collection of Right Wing Loons on the internet are just that arrogant to believe that they are more informed about what is and is not "grooming" than State Agencies, Administrators, Law Enforcement, and the kid's own parents is really quite something.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Are you calling the groomer a liar and saying he didn’t groom in the way he said he groomed?

Are you currently lying about this guy being a "groomer"? Just Asking A Question

No.

Do you support what he did?

Actually you are lying because the people "impacted" most by it are not accusing him of it.
"What He Did" was not grooming. And to think that a collection of Right Wing Loons on the internet are just that arrogant to believe that they are more informed about what is and is not "grooming" than State Agencies, Administrators, Law Enforcement, and the kid's own parents is really quite something.

:lol:

17 pages later and you’re still terrified to answer a question.

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Why do you think the school and parents aren't upset?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Are you calling the groomer a liar and saying he didn’t groom in the way he said he groomed?

Are you currently lying about this guy being a "groomer"? Just Asking A Question

No.

Do you support what he did?

Actually you are lying because the people "impacted" most by it are not accusing him of it.
"What He Did" was not grooming. And to think that a collection of Right Wing Loons on the internet are just that arrogant to believe that they are more informed about what is and is not "grooming" than State Agencies, Administrators, Law Enforcement, and the kid's own parents is really quite something.

:lol:

17 pages later and you’re still terrified to answer a question.


Reading is a skill and honesty is a virtue. This question was answered a week ago.

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Do you support having people come in to a classroom to discuss dildos and butt plugs with children?

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If it is a sex education seminar (which is what this was) then I have no problem with it. In a class about Mathematical equations then no. This was a seminar about "sex ed" so what do you think they were going to discuss? Baking tips courtesy of Spaulding?

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