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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."


I don't know about that. All labels don't have the same power.


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Why does that make a difference? This is wrong.


From the person who argues incessantly that the parents should be "informed" and made "aware" of everything. Now it doesn't "make a difference" that they did know. Can't make this shit up

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From the person who argues incessantly that the parents should be "informed" and made "aware" of everything. Now it doesn't "make a difference" that they did know. Can't make this shit up


I don't really know if they knew or not, I haven't seen a statement either way.

Parents should know about all this stuff and it shouldn't be going on. Both are true statements. I don't care if the state, admins, law enforcement, parents, or anyone else approves of this. It shouldn't be going on. This is wrong. We're a truly sick and decaying society if we say otherwise.


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Just to clarify: I think ltg said earlier that he didn't think this was right and that it was inappropriate for minors. Correct, ltg? I'm not trying to trap you.

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That is not what she says.

What she actually said is that because somebody identifies as a certain gender or sexual orientation, that alone does NOT make them a criminal. And she's right.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Just to clarify: I think ltg said earlier that he didn't think this was right and that it was inappropriate for minors. Correct, ltg? I'm not trying to trap you.

Oh he did. That’s my favorite part about this thread.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
Just to clarify: I think ltg said earlier that he didn't think this was right and that it was inappropriate for minors. Correct, ltg? I'm not trying to trap you.


I already provided the "clarification". And the original comment was made when I didn't know that it was part of sexual education seminar. And also before i knew that it was "optional" for kids to attend. Something which I had to reference in order for it to be known on here. Shocking.

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From the person who argues incessantly that the parents should be "informed" and made "aware" of everything. Now it doesn't "make a difference" that they did know. Can't make this shit up


I don't really know if they knew or not, I haven't seen a statement either way.

Parents should know about all this stuff and it shouldn't be going on. Both are true statements. I don't care if the state, admins, law enforcement, parents, or anyone else approves of this. It shouldn't be going on. This is wrong. We're a truly sick and decaying society if we say otherwise.


I get the distinct feeling that you and MANY others here believe that homosexuality is what is truly "sick"

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
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The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."


I don't know about that. All labels don't have the same power.


Right. The ones that hurt your feelings are the worst.


Our civilized society gives more power to specific labels. They have nothing to do with my feelings or yours. Being called a groomer, pedophile, or rapist carries far more weight in our society than any other labels. Even if the label is false, it can destroy your life if enough people hear it. Libtard, Trumpet, racist, or murderer don't have as much power.

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."


I don't know about that. All labels don't have the same power.


Right. The ones that hurt your feelings are the worst.


Our civilized society gives more power to specific labels. They have nothing to do with my feelings or yours. Being called a groomer, pedophile, or rapist carries far more weight in our society than any other labels. Even if the label is false, it can destroy your life if enough people hear it. Libtard, Trumpet, racist, or murderer don't have as much power.


hmmm, let me ruminate on that one

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."


I don't know about that. All labels don't have the same power.


Right. The ones that hurt your feelings are the worst.


Our civilized society gives more power to specific labels. They have nothing to do with my feelings or yours. Being called a groomer, pedophile, or rapist carries far more weight in our society than any other labels. Even if the label is false, it can destroy your life if enough people hear it. Libtard, Trumpet, racist, or murderer don't have as much power.

It's hard to come back from that. I agree with your other point about labels in general having different levels of effects. I think I once read something about right-wing societies, when trying to humiliate their opponents, would drop the pedophile label on them.

However, I disagree that being accused of racism doesn't have the same impact--in some parts of our society. I've personally seen people have to buckle under the pressure of that, and we have seen many examples of that in our culture. Social pressure and conformity is really difficult to withstand. Racism is the best example of that today. It affects our public policy, for goodness sake.

Like, no one is gonna shame Bernstein for laughing hysterically at the McSweeney's joke he read today about small towns. They shouldn't, either--it's a joke--but Bernstein was smart enough to cleanse his act of all race-related jokes ten or so years ago (as we all know).

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Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Nas wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:
The Missing Link wrote:
The Right Wing Loon Brigade around here (and elsewhere) is attacking the guy as a "groomer"

Read what you just wrote.


He teaches children yet he's too fucking dumb to grasp that calling someone a groomer is no more or less an "attack" than is calling someone a "Right Wing Loon."


I don't know about that. All labels don't have the same power.


Right. The ones that hurt your feelings are the worst.


Our civilized society gives more power to specific labels. They have nothing to do with my feelings or yours. Being called a groomer, pedophile, or rapist carries far more weight in our society than any other labels. Even if the label is false, it can destroy your life if enough people hear it. Libtard, Trumpet, racist, or murderer don't have as much power.

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Thomas-Sox-WorldSeries wrote:

It's hard to come back from that. I agree with your other point about labels in general having different levels of effects. I think I once read something about right-wing societies, when trying to humiliate their opponents, would drop the pedophile label on them.

However, I disagree that being accused of racism doesn't have the same impact--in some parts of our society. I've personally seen people have to buckle under the pressure of that, and we have seen many examples of that in our culture. Social pressure and conformity is really difficult to withstand. Racism is the best example of that today. It affects our public policy, for goodness sake.

Like, no one is gonna shame Bernstein for laughing hysterically at the McSweeney's joke he read today about small towns. They shouldn't, either--it's a joke--but Bernstein was smart enough to cleanse his act of all race-related jokes ten or so years ago (as we all know).


I put racist on a different tier because I don't think you will be universally ostracized if someone calls you a racist. Some people proudly wear that label. The other things will get you universally ostracized. IMO, you would have a hard time finding folks who are proud to be called a rapist, pedophile, or a groomer.

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Your post specifically spoke to CPS, an urban institution you know nothing about first hand. But it’s a public school group which in your sheltered existence seem increasingly wont to irrationally do.


You want to know what I do know...The dean of the school, a school that has a large focus on SEL and DEIB, gave his students ages 14-18 dildos and buttplugs talking about queer sex and using lube vs using spit. And it's a really cool part of his job to explain how they work.

I thought it was a private school, you say it's part of a public group. Honestly, I don't really care. I disagree with this ideology it shouldn't be in any school public or private. This is the direction they want to take and we should all agree it's wrong but some of you can't or won't and I cannot figure out the reason.

I'd like to know more about the conference Bruno was at.



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