Massive AFib or crazy rapid heart rate. I had a much milder version of that happen to me in my 20s during a sinus infection with too much Sudafed in my system, plopped down on a sofa and it hit my back the wrong way and skyrocketed my heart rate to about 210. Fortunately I was able to get to an ER and they took care of it.

This year after heart surgery #2, I had a specialisr explain that I had an extra nerve in a bad place in my heart and they sometimes I get a feedback loop and that's why my heart would race. It did it after both surgeries, this time they went in and isolated the offending nerve and shorted it out.

But my "hit" was tr type of thing when you sit down wrong in a chair and hit your back funny, not a FOOTBALL hit.

There is virtually no way a team's medical staff would have known something like that with this kid, it took all kinds of specialized post-surgical testing to find it for me, and no healthy person in their 20s would have that test.

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It's a shitty thing for anyone to do, but he's also making an assumption just like them. Albeit, his presumption is presumably educated.

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Good vid, informative. Thanks for posting.

Scott Van Pelt is a douchebag for speculating the NFL was trying to force the teams to play. He has no idea about that and has ADMITTED he is speculating but he keeps saying it anyway. He needs to dial the histrionics back several levels and report the facts as they are handed to him.

He’s filling time but it’s been tough to watch. Ryan Clark is somehow making it worse.

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It’s embarrassing “look how much we care” TV.

Supposedly his marketing rep .

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Didn't he just have a straight up heart attack though? Not a result of blunt force trauma to the chest?

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Higgins dropped his shoulder and launched himself into dude. Probably not illegal but guaranteed to effect maximum impact.

Worst football injury I recall witnessing live was some receiver (DeAndre Brown, maybe?) breaking his leg trying to catch a TD in a college bowl game. iirc, some guy on the sidelines near the play threw up witnessing it in person.

Worse than someone going into cardiac arrest?

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In terms of visual effect on the viewer? Yeah.

Once you know what happened to Hamlin, of course it's a worse injury. But watching the 2 plays live, the broken leg was immediately on seeing it painfully gross to view.

Yes, it was a heart attack. He was running a pass route and collapsed.

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Wow, that's an incredible story. I'm glad you came out of that in your 20s and are okay now. I had afib/tachycardia once because of blood clots. I hadn't put weight on my broken ankle, which had been in a cast for 2 months. I went to a doctor's office to get my ears cleaned when he noticed my heart rate was going up and down quickly. I could see it in realtime wearing the oximeter. Scary stuff. But, the ER reset the heart and I've felt great ever since.

Seeing both teams surrounding an ambulance on the field was visually effecting. But I get what you are saying.

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What about when Tony Stewart killed that driver?

The most gruesome I saw was Kevin Ware (Louisville basketball player) breaking his in the NCAA tournament.

Hamlin's was the scariest.

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In the SportsCentury Butkus episode, if I remember right, they explained that fans and some writers blamed Butkus for it. Maybe not the actual play where he fell down -- but Butkus' hits throughout the game.

Didn't some think that Butkus gave a cheap shot prior to Hughes collapsing?

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The Tulane player was paralyzed from the neck down, and needed CPR to get his heart going after the hit.

He was at the game today in Dallas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bJiSpbLoa8

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Seeing Paul George go down in the USA scrimmage in person back in August of 2014 was weird, not just because of the injury, but a good amount of people chanting "USA, USA" as he was rolled out on a stretcher.

Reporters are asking players questions who are trying to enter the hospital and see about their teammate. Stay classy!

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I knew the Johnny Knox hit was problematic in real time. That's probably the worst I saw before today.

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Obviously Hamlin's issue and the others ones we're discussing are different - Hamlin's being a presumably internal issue while the others were visibly gruesome. "Scary" is probably the apt word to use anytime your issue requires CPR or other life saving measures, which wasn't the case for George, Ware, etc., making their cases while gruesome less "serious" than Hamlin's. One note I'd add is I think both Shaun Livingston and the Bears TE from a few years ago flirted with amputation, and I think death due to infection was actually a remote possibility for Livingston at one point. Maybe those would be the most scariest of recent memory, a notch above Paul George/Ware/Heyward but below Hamlin.

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Sherman remarked, "Well, Grant, we've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" Grant looked up. "Yes," he replied, followed by a puff. "Yes. Lick 'em tomorrow, though."

Hamlin's gets freaky scary on re-watch, once you know more about what's happening. I think Hamlin's mom was at the game too. Bad things, man, bad things.

Oh yeah, the Kevin Ware one was worse than the DeAndre Brown; it was the DeAndre Brown injury almost identically except Ware being a bball player wasn't wearing long pants and pulled up socks. So it was all exposed and gruesome, iirc. Brown's leg dangling was a pretty awful site tho. Watching with my gf, she asked if we could watch something else, not football. Probably made me watch True Blood or some other fairy HBO show.

Did they actually drive Knox to the hospital on that golf cart or was that just some board tomfoolery.

skip bayless is all we need to play this game. hard core.

Thankfully we’ve come a long way from when ESPN just played Hank Gathers keeling over on the court repeatedly for a whole Sportscenter. That was ghoulish.

Bills confirming Hamlin's heartbeat was "restored" on the field. Scary as hell.

Kind of irritated by all this talk about canceling the game to respect "player safety." Forcing the game to go on wouldn't harm Hamlin's safety, it's not like the doctors and trainers would have left Hamlin on the ground once the game restarted. It was about understanding the gravity of the situation and acknowledging how the players couldn't reset emotionally and restart the game.

Also, it looks like there's a burgeoning he said/she said situation regarding the weird warmup call on the field after Hamlin was whisked away by an ambulance. Joe Buck/ESPN says the refs gave both teams notice that they'd restart in five minutes. The NFLPA says that's bullshit. Why would ESPN make that up? Not surprised Goodell's NFL is on the wrong end of another controversy.

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Thankfully I missed the game and this board last night. But hearing the fraud Jason Williams moralizing and reading the buffoon Skip Bayless tweeting I'm sickened more and more by people.

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