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I'll take Fields and the questions marks over Geno fucking Smith :lol:

Same with the other guys that have been listed.

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Why are you avoiding offensive weapons? When you said you wouldn't build around Fields, I agreed, but I assumed you meant you wouldn't want to draft guys specifically because their style of plays meshes with Fields. Unless I'm reading your above post incorrectly, it looks like "building around Fields" means something different to the both of us.

I do want weapons. I would draft/acquire legit studs at WR or TE etc because to me I need those players irrespective of who is at QB. If Fields sucks then I find a QB who can leverage the weapons in front of him. In other words, I don't want to skip drafting the next Megatron (I know there's prolly no Megatron in the draft, but just using him as an example), just because my QB (Fields) can't capitalize on Megatron's talents. To me, it's give me Megatron because he's the best player available, and if the QB can't use him, I'll find one someone who can.

Because I think they’re acquired only with the opportunity cost of impact defensive players. I wouldn’t want to take a Megatron and have him waste away with a guy who can’t get him the ball over somebody who can anchor the defense for a decade.

I don’t hate the Bears skill guys. Claypool, Mooney, Kmet, Jones, Herbert and St. Brown are probably an average group at worst.

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I'll take Fields and the questions marks over Geno fucking Smith :lol:

Same with the other guys that have been listed.


I would too. However, someone would still give you draft capital for Fields. I'll take the draft capital over Fields.

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I'll take the draft capital over Fields.
Depends on what sort of capital.

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I'll take the draft capital over Fields.
Depends on what sort of capital.


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Did the Bears offense look appreciably worse with Nathan fucking Peterman passing the ball yesterday ?

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Did the Bears offense look appreciably worse with Nathan fucking Peterman passing the ball yesterday ?


No. He's a bum too. The sack totals of the other starters should have tell everyone that Fields is the problem. I'm not saying the offensive line doesn't need to be upgraded, but statues managed to stay upright.

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Why are you avoiding offensive weapons? When you said you wouldn't build around Fields, I agreed, but I assumed you meant you wouldn't want to draft guys specifically because their style of plays meshes with Fields. Unless I'm reading your above post incorrectly, it looks like "building around Fields" means something different to the both of us.

I do want weapons. I would draft/acquire legit studs at WR or TE etc because to me I need those players irrespective of who is at QB. If Fields sucks then I find a QB who can leverage the weapons in front of him. In other words, I don't want to skip drafting the next Megatron (I know there's prolly no Megatron in the draft, but just using him as an example), just because my QB (Fields) can't capitalize on Megatron's talents. To me, it's give me Megatron because he's the best player available, and if the QB can't use him, I'll find one someone who can.

Because I think they’re acquired only with the opportunity cost of impact defensive players. I wouldn’t want to take a Megatron and have him waste away with a guy who can’t get him the ball over somebody who can anchor the defense for a decade.

I don’t hate the Bears skill guys. Claypool, Mooney, Kmet, Jones, Herbert and St. Brown are probably an average group at worst.


I hear you. Let's consider a case where you have a surefire HOF prospect on offense vs a solid/pro bowl type player on D, for example just to illustrate the point. I'm probably going for the surefire HOF'er on offense. I'm drafting him while simultaneously expecting Fields to use him to his potential. If Fields can't then he shouldn't be my QB - I'm not going to draft lesser players because of the ineptness of the QB, it just means to me we need a better QB.

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I'll take Fields and the questions marks over Geno fucking Smith :lol:

Same with the other guys that have been listed.

I'm not saying Geno Fucking Smith or Jimmy G are the answer....I'm just saying those are the options.

It really comes down to when the line in the sand will be drawn for Fields being a Pace draft pick or being a Poles guy. If Poles doesn't want his career tied to Fields, he has to be dealt NOW or if he's lucky he can squeeze one more year. Problem is....there is value NOW....one more you and that value in draft capital is likely gone.

Keep Fields.....draft the hell out of DL and OL and this team is WAY better.
Trade Fields....draft the hell out of DL and OL and this team is WAY better.

I personally think Fields will be back and Poles will get to draft one more QB next year, but in any case....whenever he drafts / signs a QB...he better get it right. I don't think the answer is out there this offseason.

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They're not legitimate options. Cutting Fields is technically an option too. But is that going to happen?

C'mon. Ryan Poles may end up being a horrible GM, but at this point there is absolutely zero chance he would replace Justin Fields with Geno Smith or Jimmy G. Its nonsense to even suggest it :lol:

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They need 10 of the top 20 free agents, 8 draft picks (1 in the top 5, 5 in 15-90, 2 late rounders), and 5 UDFA. Put them with the better half of the 2022 roster, and maybe they have an 8-9 team for 2023.

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They're not legitimate options. Cutting Fields is technically an option too. But is that going to happen?

C'mon. Ryan Poles may end up being a horrible GM, but at this point there is absolutely zero chance he would replace Justin Fields with Geno Smith or Jimmy G. Its nonsense to even suggest it :lol:

Look...I agree with you that Fields will be a Bear next year and have the starting QB job....I just think it's fair to point out they have other options and Poles has already shown to be pretty shrewd in this tank / rebuild project.

I just don't trust any of the QB's in this draft and there's a few suggesting they do just that. No. Thank. You.

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I just dont know how you can find a guy to replace 75 yards through the air against the Lions.

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Some dumbfuck told us that the guy who managed 114 yards thru the air against the Vikings might be the answer.

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I'll take Fields and the questions marks over Geno fucking Smith :lol:

Same with the other guys that have been listed.

I'm not saying Geno Fucking Smith or Jimmy G are the answer....I'm just saying those are the options.

It really comes down to when the line in the sand will be drawn for Fields being a Pace draft pick or being a Poles guy. If Poles doesn't want his career tied to Fields, he has to be dealt NOW or if he's lucky he can squeeze one more year. Problem is....there is value NOW....one more you and that value in draft capital is likely gone.

Keep Fields.....draft the hell out of DL and OL and this team is WAY better.
Trade Fields....draft the hell out of DL and OL and this team is WAY better.

I personally think Fields will be back and Poles will get to draft one more QB next year, but in any case....whenever he drafts / signs a QB...he better get it right. I don't think the answer is out there this offseason.

Poles career is already tied to fields. Either he keeps him and he's on the hook for his success or lack thereof or he trades him and every touchdown he gets is Brock for Broglio discussion.

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I'll take Fields and the questions marks over Geno fucking Smith :lol:

Same with the other guys that have been listed.

I'm not saying Geno Fucking Smith or Jimmy G are the answer....I'm just saying those are the options.

It really comes down to when the line in the sand will be drawn for Fields being a Pace draft pick or being a Poles guy. If Poles doesn't want his career tied to Fields, he has to be dealt NOW or if he's lucky he can squeeze one more year. Problem is....there is value NOW....one more you and that value in draft capital is likely gone.

Keep Fields.....draft the hell out of DL and OL and this team is WAY better.
Trade Fields....draft the hell out of DL and OL and this team is WAY better.

I personally think Fields will be back and Poles will get to draft one more QB next year, but in any case....whenever he drafts / signs a QB...he better get it right. I don't think the answer is out there this offseason.

Poles career is already tied to fields. Either he keeps him and he's on the hook for his success or lack thereof or he trades him and every touchdown he gets is Brock for Broglio discussion.

Right now Poles is tied to Fields? No. Pace drafted Fields and it's Poles first year which he spent clearing cap space under the "we need to evaluate him". The question is....can he squeeze out one more year and say "I didn't draft him". That is debatable.

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I'll take Fields and the questions marks over Geno fucking Smith :lol:

Same with the other guys that have been listed.

I'm not saying Geno Fucking Smith or Jimmy G are the answer....I'm just saying those are the options.

It really comes down to when the line in the sand will be drawn for Fields being a Pace draft pick or being a Poles guy. If Poles doesn't want his career tied to Fields, he has to be dealt NOW or if he's lucky he can squeeze one more year. Problem is....there is value NOW....one more you and that value in draft capital is likely gone.

Keep Fields.....draft the hell out of DL and OL and this team is WAY better.
Trade Fields....draft the hell out of DL and OL and this team is WAY better.

I personally think Fields will be back and Poles will get to draft one more QB next year, but in any case....whenever he drafts / signs a QB...he better get it right. I don't think the answer is out there this offseason.

Poles career is already tied to fields. Either he keeps him and he's on the hook for his success or lack thereof or he trades him and every touchdown he gets is Brock for Broglio discussion.

Right now Poles is tied to Fields? No. Pace drafted Fields and it's Poles first year which he spent clearing cap space under the "we need to evaluate him". The question is....can he squeeze out one more year and say "I didn't draft him". That is debatable.

Wrong. If he trades him and he's great it's a scar on Poles. What we're you thinking trading Lou Brock? Poles is tied to Fields, don't matter who drafted him.

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Poles' career is tied to playoffs and Super Bowls.

Rodgers isn't.

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Poles' career is tied to playoffs and Super Bowls.

Rodgers isn't.


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I'm even more of an Anderson over Carter guy after these playoffs. Great players should be noticed in big games. He also on the sidelines for too many plays. I've seen enough of Roquan out of breath. I don't need to see another Georgia player huffing and puffing.

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I'm even more of an Anderson over Carter guy after these playoffs. Great players should be noticed in big games. He also on the sidelines for too many plays. I've seen enough of Roquan out of breath. I don't need to see another Georgia player huffing and puffing.

But that's so fixable.

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I'm even more of an Anderson over Carter guy after these playoffs. Great players should be noticed in big games. He also on the sidelines for too many plays. I've seen enough of Roquan out of breath. I don't need to see another Georgia player huffing and puffing.

But that's so fixable.

He’s fat. Fat guys need more oxygen.

I’d be fine with Anderson over Carter. I’d feel a lot better about it if they found another way to shore up the tackle position in FA before making that pick.

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I'm even more of an Anderson over Carter guy after these playoffs. Great players should be noticed in big games. He also on the sidelines for too many plays. I've seen enough of Roquan out of breath. I don't need to see another Georgia player huffing and puffing.

But that's so fixable.

He’s fat. Fat guys need more oxygen.

I’d be fine with Anderson over Carter. I’d feel a lot better about it if they found another way to shore up the tackle position in FA before making that pick.


Anderson over Carter all day after watching last night's game.

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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.


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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.

I think he’s a very good college player but I wouldn’t want to spend a pick on him. He reminds me of Ian Book a little, albeit a lot smaller and with much better weapons.

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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.


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I don't know if it's been mentioned here or anywhere else, but if I'm the Bears I have no problem using a 4th or 5th round pick on Stetson Bennett. Guy probably is a career backup, but you never know.


The Bears should use a 4th rounder on a backup QB?


Didn't the Redskins do this in the same draft they took RG3?

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Poles' career is tied to playoffs and Super Bowls.

Rodgers isn't.

Thank goodness he won that one.

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