I've never said he wasn't hated and murdered by racists. I've argued that he became a tool that was used by the government and racists to suppress independent and more confrontational movements after his death. I really don't think that can be disputed.

"Be docile like MLK, and we'll throw you a few crumbs." "MLK didn't need guns; why do you? They'll only destroy your community. Look at all the gun violence. Hand us your guns, and the government will protect you." "If that man wasn't in your home, we could give you FREE housing and a few other perks."

No, I don't believe it worked for Obama.

No, I don't believe it worked for Obama.

No, but why are you posting beefcake photos of men? Especially in what is a remembrance thread about great hockey players? You're a strange, oddly angry guy.

He became President as a result of "piecemeal" progress. And besides King's platform regarding the Vietnam War, Worker's Rights, and poverty were hardly considered "docile" for their time. Or even now. I'd much rather talk about the issue of poverty than I would police brutality. If people really want to talk about evoking "change" in this country (Both Conservatives and Liberals) then how about we start there as opposed to waiting for the next black dude to get killed by the cops. However what I have learned in my life (As King did in his) when you start holding those conversation MANY tend to get very quiet all of a sudden.

But that is just the point. I don't much care that a bigot on a message board (Say WFR for instance) "celebrates the life" of Martin Luther King posthumously. Why? because I know that this person and others who hold his views, would have hated in 1960. He was killed by a racist ostensibly because his views were considered too "radical". Nor will parrot I their thoughts about the need solely for blacks to "help themselves" and stop "depending on Govt" for help. Why? Because the very same racists who condemn blacks for "depending" on Govt are the very same people that can never not "depend" on Govt for help. The largest "industry" in D.C. (Lobbying) is comprised of people that literally "depend" on Govt for help. That is why it exists in the first place. If you look at the chief oppressors of blacks in this country historically, they all have "depended" on Govt in order to oppress blacks and other minorities. Every last one of them. It is because of this that I have always known that the whole "Government Dependence" yarn is something that they (racists) use to brainwash and dupe unsuspecting and rather ignorant black people (Mostly Conservative Black People) with. There are no bigger pawns of racists than black Conservatives themselves.

I'm not the ultimate MLK advocate, but at the end of the day he helped to get legislation passed that no other black "leader" was able to get passed. For that he paid for it with his life. And the person that killed him was a white racist that considered him to be "too radical" for his time. Its revisionist to claim that he is the "beloved" figure of white racists when he was killed and hated by white racists during his actual lifetime.

I was always taught that the Poor People’s campaign was viewed as a bigger threat to the government because it was gaining more success in getting support from more than just liberal whites. And as for the more militant brothers, the Nation is/was a joke and Malcolm grew closer to Dr King by early ‘64.

Malcolm became friendlier. His message was still about blacks building up their communities and not being on their knees at the feet of government. I'll always argue that message is more threatening to order than asking the king for loaves of bread and shelter.

I was always taught that the Poor People’s campaign was viewed as a bigger threat to the government because it was gaining more success in getting support from more than just liberal whites. And as for the more militant brothers, the Nation is/was a joke and Malcolm grew closer to Dr King by early ‘64.

Those weren't really radical things in the '60s. What LBJ and even Nixon were willing to do have zero chance of happening today. What you're missing is all of those things still rely upon the graciousness of the government and those who were facilitating the oppression. Saying, "fuck you, I'll create my own, and be willing to defend it with force," is a far more significant threat to order.

Edit: Look all over the country, you'll struggle with find predominantly black communities with predominantly black businesses. That wasn't true in the 60s and that isn't true when it comes to other groups of people in America. I don't think that's an accident.

You just got done saying reading is a skill. A comment was posted along with the pictures.

I don't really care about it today, and I doubt I would have cared 20 years ago. It gets exhausting watching everyone manufacture outrage daily so they can tell everyone how great of a person they are.

Kobe raped a woman and snitched on a teammate, and I still loved watching him play basketball. Chapman beat a woman, and I celebrated every playoff save and win. We all can separate the entertainer from the player when they're performing well for the teams we love. Then we forget how to do it when the rest of us world starts grandstanding.