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But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.

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This is one where it will probably be best to wait for all of the information to come out before drawing conclusions

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But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.

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But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.

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Oh boy we get a second George Floyd trial. Maybe this will bring JLN and friends out of the woodwork

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I was going to say that this guy probably is found not guilty if it even goes to trial based on self defense and the guy mentioning he didn't care if he went to jail which can at least plausibly be viewed as a threat with other threatening actions especially with a jury full of people who have dealt with the same type of concerning situation in the city. I didn't even live in the city and saw it multiple times including one time directly into both my face and then my wife's face.


You're supposed to be a sitting duck. Or minimally, you're supposed to tolerate all manner of atrocious behavior in the name of I don't know what. "Equity" maybe?

You can be bullied, robbed, and even attacked and the prosecutors will be sympathtic to your tormentor(s). But don't you dare take measures to protect yourself, as every possible charge will be levied against you.

Of course it’s in the name of equity . You think there are protests going on about this if some deranged white guy did the same thing on that train and was choked out by a black guy ?

"Actions have consequences. He fucked around and found out."

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.


People who act crazy are good to be killed.

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Seacrest wrote:
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But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.


People who act crazy are good to be killed.

How about people who post crazy?

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.


People who act crazy are good to be killed.

How about people who post crazy?


JORR?

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Seacrest wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.


People who act crazy are good to be killed.


And then to be mocked(& later to delete the post).

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.


People who act crazy are good to be killed.


How about people who post crazy?

They just prove that they can't handle society, no matter how negatively they've impacted it. And arrogantly think they're above it all.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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Seacrest wrote:
Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.

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adam conover should be choked for 16 minutes

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if you kill somebody, you should do time.

if your wife gets murdered, you should do time. (even if you had nothing to do with it, you had one job...)

if you bump a pedestrian or bicyclist with your 2 ton SUV and they die, you should do time.

if you keep guns in your house and your kid or someone uses it to kill themselves or another person and it wasn't self-defense....do time.

if you keep Dogo Canarios or other murderous mutt and they kill someone--do time!


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SuperNintendoHjalmarsson wrote:
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.

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adam conover should be choked for 16 minutes

I'm a bit concerned that you knew who he was.

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This is gonna be the trial that finally brings forth harmony between the races

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Finding 12 New Yorkers who haven't wanted to choke someone on a subway will be impossible. May need to move it to a place without them like Indiana or North Dakota.

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Seacrest wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.



Why should he have to "justify" it. You put people in a position where they have criminals and maniacs busting the social contract, not to mention hurting and killing people and you're gonna put the guy who stands up to it on trial. I wish I were on his jury. They'd never get a conviction.


People who act crazy are good to be killed.



At what point do you defend yourself from someone who is "acting crazy"? It's really easy to judge until that guy is threatening you or your loved ones.

The guy that beat the family outside Sox Park with a table leg was just "acting crazy."

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Seacrest wrote:
Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.


Nonsense.. grab 12 average NYers and 10 take the subway. They are tired of this shit, I don't give a fuck if you smoked meth, synthetic weed or your mom was a prostitute and never hugged you.. your actions define you, this guy was a shitbag and drain on society..he should have gotten 20 years when he tried to shove a woman on the tracks.. fuck this guy.

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This is gonna be the trial that finally brings forth harmony between the races


It don't matter if you're Black or White, ooh!

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Finding 12 New Yorkers who haven't wanted to choke someone on a subway will be impossible. May need to move it to a place without them like Indiana or North Dakota.



Dunno 'bout ND, but on a per capita basis Hoosiers far more choke-outable than New Yorkers.


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312player wrote:
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But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.


Nonsense.. grab 12 average NYers and 10 take the subway. They are tired of this shit, I don't give a fuck if you smoked meth, synthetic weed or your mom was a prostitute and never hugged you.. your actions define you, this guy was a shitbag and drain on society..he should have gotten 20 years when he tried to shove a woman on the tracks.. fuck this guy.

It seems like actual New Yorkers would like their public transit system to be safe and functional while the journos regard drug-addicted schizophrenics as part of Life In The Big City and think anyone who can't handle it should go back to Iowa. Bitch, you're the one from Iowa. A jury won't convict him.

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I’m pretty certain one side is entirely correct and the other side is entirely wrong. Ready to be vindicated regardless of the outcome of the trial

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Seacrest wrote:
Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.


Nonsense.. grab 12 average NYers and 10 take the subway. They are tired of this shit, I don't give a fuck if you smoked meth, synthetic weed or your mom was a prostitute and never hugged you.. your actions define you, this guy was a shitbag and drain on society..he should have gotten 20 years when he tried to shove a woman on the tracks.. fuck this guy.

It seems like actual New Yorkers would like their public transit system to be safe and functional while the journos regard drug-addicted schizophrenics as part of Life In The Big City and think anyone who can't handle it should go back to Iowa. Bitch, you're the one from Iowa. A jury won't convict him.


It amazing how easily we dehumanizing and justify taking the lives of "others". I hope no one attacks you for being weird or annoying or...

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As much as I'd love to jump to conclusions, I think I'll wait a little bit. The man DID get choked to death. If people in that car thought they were in mortal danger, then they will testify and guy will walk.


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As much as I'd love to jump to conclusions, I think I'll wait a little bit. The man DID get choked to death. If people in that car thought they were in mortal danger, then they will testify and guy will walk.


If the guy wasn't homeless, or didn't have a known mental illness, I doubt anyone would be calling his death just.

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Nas wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
312player wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
Brick wrote:
But, that 15 minute chokehold is going to be tough to justify if that is true.


You are damn right it is.


Nonsense.. grab 12 average NYers and 10 take the subway. They are tired of this shit, I don't give a fuck if you smoked meth, synthetic weed or your mom was a prostitute and never hugged you.. your actions define you, this guy was a shitbag and drain on society..he should have gotten 20 years when he tried to shove a woman on the tracks.. fuck this guy.

It seems like actual New Yorkers would like their public transit system to be safe and functional while the journos regard drug-addicted schizophrenics as part of Life In The Big City and think anyone who can't handle it should go back to Iowa. Bitch, you're the one from Iowa. A jury won't convict him.


It amazing how easily we dehumanizing and justify taking the lives of "others". I hope no one attacks you for being weird or annoying or...


What should be the punishment for trying to shove a woman onto the tracks or sucker punching a 67 year old woman in the face and breaking her jaw and orbital bone?

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As much as I'd love to jump to conclusions, I think I'll wait a little bit. The man DID get choked to death. If people in that car thought they were in mortal danger, then they will testify and guy will walk.


If the guy wasn't homeless, or didn't have a known mental illness, I doubt anyone would be calling his death just.

His death will never be just. It might be excusable. I don't know. This will be going on a while, so we'll see.


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It amazing how easily we dehumanizing and justify taking the lives of "others". I hope no one attacks you for being weird or annoying or...

A couple of weeks ago I had to stand on the Grand/State platform while a guy smoked crack and I didn't do anything. Wasn't harming me, yet, at least. But that's a narrow platform, not a fun place to be stuck next to a crackhead.

If we're going to warehouse our mentally ill somewhere, it shouldn't be in our public transit systems. They're too important to the functioning of a city for that, or at least they should be. Or we can have the Blue Line run twice an hour because no one wants to ride it and no one wants to work there, either/or.

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It amazing how easily we dehumanizing and justify taking the lives of "others". I hope no one attacks you for being weird or annoying or...

A couple of weeks ago I had to stand on the Grand/State platform while a guy smoked crack and I didn't do anything. Wasn't harming me, yet, at least. But that's a narrow platform, not a fun place to be stuck next to a crackhead.

If we're going to warehouse our mentally ill somewhere, it shouldn't be in our public transit systems. They're too important to the functioning of a city for that, or at least they should be. Or we can have the Blue Line run twice an hour because no one wants to ride it and no one wants to work there, either/or.

Solid point.


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