I was told they're the biggest sleeping giant in sports

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"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

They are dead to me now.

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I need at least six players to go at the deadline except Robert. I think it’s also fine the manager and training/coaching staff can also be one and done.

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Elections have consequences.

Who had the Cubs winning more than 78-82 games in a best case scenario?

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Matt spiegel

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Welcome to the cause, brother.

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They probably will get to around that number, but they won't bring back much talent in return. Probably a bunch of fliers not in the top 30 of anyone's farm system for most of this talent. I'd like to think Giolito will bring back 1-2 pieces, but as a rental, seems unlikely that they are getting any top 10 prospects from anyone's system unless there is major competition for him.

Most Score hosts had the Cubs as serious playoff contenders. That would be at least 87-88 wins. Shill Mulli during an early losing spell "Could we all have been wrong about this team?

Gordon Wittenmyer on the most recent podcast with Kap. "The underlying metrics are the Cubs could move past the teams ahead of them in the NL Central. That would be 87-88 wins.

Flipper Kap during hot streaks thought they'd be a playoff contender. 87-88 wins.

As mentioned oddball Spiegel's "80 floor" would be 87-88 wins.


CHGO, Locked on Cuubs, Cubs Talk (with Leila) podcasts had the Cubs as playoff contenders. That's 87-88 wins.

Hoyer and Ross said they were playoff contenders. That's 87-88 wins.

TLR just spilled his drink and hit a curb because he couldn't stop laughing.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Yes, there's been this odd optimism from the Score throughout the year. Sometimes, various hosts will mention that the team is sort of average or lacking in some areas, but way too much hype for a team that most people thought that .500 would have been a good year. Just a few days ago, Holmes was arguing that the Cubs should go for it. I'm not even sure what that means - you trade for a reliever and a power hitter and suddenly you're going to go on a big run?

So flagship station over sells a team while rest of country and fan base figure 78 wins? Got it.

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Seriously... Using the Score as your "how good are the Cubs" measuring stick. Most PR firms are going to talk up their clients.

Their preseason over/under was 77.5.
Sidenote: anyone that took the over on Arizona or Miami at 75.5 is looking good.


Back to the Sox... they suck, and most likely the trades they make won't make much of a long term difference. I have tickets for 2 games during the Cleveland series at the end of July. I'll still enjoy being at a game, and there are giveways my kids want, but depressing to think what their record might be by then. Who knows who will even be on the team by then???

Vaughn is obviously not great, but they made the right call on Abreu. He's putting up a .641 OPS, has 7 homers, is good for -.7 WAR, and is making over $19 million a year.

Sox won't get much of anything except a scratch off for anybody other than Cease, Eloy maybe, or Robert. So trade them. Seriously, what are you gonna do, build around 2 players?

This is a barn burner of a game. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this 8 to 7 lead doesn't hold up.

Of course not. They'll bring Kelly in to close it out and lose by 5.

Not this time. Kelly is on the IL.

I would have taken the over on the Cubs and DBacks, not the Marlins. I had the Cubs at 82-80 if they could have a decent first half.

Back to the White Sox, I went to a game at AAA Charlotte tonight. A really nice stadium, not a bad seat in the house. The seats in the sections behind home plate have access to a small air-conditioned club area, not big enough for everyone but enough that I could hang out there during pregame since I got there 45 minutes before first pitch.

Sadly, the team is a shit pile of rejects, including Frazier, Piscotty, and Billy Hamilton. The manager fucked up and left the starter in one batter too long and the result was a towering home run followed by the immortal Luke Farrell trotting in to pitch because I guess Chris Volstad decided to retire. Hamilton did hit a home run, clubbed the shit out of the first pitch he saw.

But there is not one position player on that roster who belongs on a major league roster ever again.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

Passed ball, E2

Willllson

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

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Nice baserunning, Willllson!

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WHat in the hell is that? Surely there is more to that story?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Dump Chris Getz too

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My God the Cardinals are putrid.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

The Cardinals are somehow worse and dumber than the Sox

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And Cone Treras is somehow worse than Grandal

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missed the shot to put the L on dipshit cards catcher and stupid manager deciding to pitch to Robert.

fucking graveman hitting every guy up

got out of it finally and it's tied.

ok beat these assholes now

Game exemplifies why these teams are both 15 under .500. White Sox cant hold a one run lead in the ninth because they hit 2 batters, only reason theyre even ahead to begin with was because the Cardinals cant field the baseball. Zero earned runs scored. Also Grifol pulling Colas for a PH once they brought the lefty in. Either play the kid or dont. Youre 15 under, now is the time to let him play and see if he can come through against lhp.

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Get rid of them all.

Absolute garbage.

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