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Time to hire Matt Nagy to right the ship. It’s a shame. Wasn’t like he was some great coach or had incredible success (to be fair, Northwestern) but going from player to assistant to coach.. I don’t know. Disappointing.


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I may have missed it, but have any of the players/hazers been called out or accused?
They are technically considered adults being 18 or older.


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With today's climate, especially TODAY, the hazers may well put a bullet in own their heads. A bully might as well be a serial killer.

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Kids are now supposed to be thoughtful and mature 60 year old adults. People who have never seen a locker room are outraged by what happens in a locker room.

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With today's climate, especially TODAY, the hazers may well put a bullet in own their heads. A bully might as well be a serial killer.

But they’re at least a little gay so they could just embrace that and get a corporate DEI job.

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I could see putting up with this or maybe even allowing gaydom to venture a little further into you if you were at a winning program such as Illinois. But Northwestern? That makes no sense.


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You may not like what these guys did. You may think it's weird or inappropriate. But what it isn't is sexual abuse.

How soft are 21 year olds these days? They can't take a few guys rubbing up against them for a couple minutes without turning it into an event that scars them for life? No wonder they went 1-8 in the Big Ten.


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I know it’s wrong to do this shit today. But I think for most players it was harmless bullshit.

I wouldn’t have liked it cuz I hate being naked in front of a bunch of guys. Always have. In high school I put the towel over the wall of the shower stall. Put my underwear on under the wrapped towel at my locker. Got dressed quickly. Nobody saw me naked.Hell, I don’t even like being naked when I’m alone.

But elite athletes are different. They love being naked for the most part.

I just hate that the pretend woke like Bernstein are gonna act like it’s the end of the world.

Yes, Fitz had to be fired. He’s the head of a corporation basically. Can’t let this shit go on.

But most of the players didn’t think it was a big deal. It was stupid fun for 99 percent of them.


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I know it’s wrong to do this shit today. But I think for most players it was harmless bullshit.

I wouldn’t have liked it cuz I hate being naked in front of a bunch of guys. Always have. In high school I put the towel over the wall of the shower stall. Put my underwear on under the wrapped towel at my locker. Got dressed quickly. Nobody saw me naked.Hell, I don’t even like being naked when I’m alone.

But elite athletes are different. They love being naked for the most part.

I just hate that the pretend woke like Bernstein are gonna act like it’s the end of the world.

Yes, Fitz had to be fired. He’s the head of a corporation basically. Can’t let this shit go on.

But most of the players didn’t think it was a big deal. It was stupid fun for 99 percent of them.


Being hazed/sexually assaulted is still better than reading your posts


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I know it’s wrong to do this shit today. But I think for most players it was harmless bullshit.

I wouldn’t have liked it cuz I hate being naked in front of a bunch of guys. Always have. In high school I put the towel over the wall of the shower stall. Put my underwear on under the wrapped towel at my locker. Got dressed quickly. Nobody saw me naked.Hell, I don’t even like being naked when I’m alone.

But elite athletes are different. They love being naked for the most part.

I just hate that the pretend woke like Bernstein are gonna act like it’s the end of the world.

Yes, Fitz had to be fired. He’s the head of a corporation basically. Can’t let this shit go on.

But most of the players didn’t think it was a big deal. It was stupid fun for 99 percent of them.


Being hazed/sexually assaulted is still better than reading your posts


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Kids are now supposed to be thoughtful and mature 60 year old adults. People who have never seen a locker room are outraged by what happens in a locker room.





Unless the staff is aware of everything that’s going on in the locker room, the adult kids have no personal responsibility?


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Nas wrote:
Kids are now supposed to be thoughtful and mature 60 year old adults. People who have never seen a locker room are outraged by what happens in a locker room.





Unless the staff is aware of everything that’s going on in the locker room, the adult kids have no personal responsibility?

Let's put 'em through a ringer to the delight of the throngs.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nardi wrote:
With today's climate, especially TODAY, the hazers may well put a bullet in own their heads. A bully might as well be a serial killer.

But they’re at least a little gay so they could just embrace that and get a corporate DEI job.


Those were the first jobs to go at the end of the pandemic.

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He's kind of a moron for allowing it. But maybe the lame shit dated back to his playing days


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He's kind of a moron for allowing it. But maybe the lame shit dated back to his playing days


I'm sure this shit goes back to the 1920s.


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Wanny pissed and makes a little sense. How do you go from 2 weeks to fired with no new facts in a day or two?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Nardi wrote:
With today's climate, especially TODAY, the hazers may well put a bullet in own their heads. A bully might as well be a serial killer.

But they’re at least a little gay so they could just embrace that and get a corporate DEI job.


What does the DEI part mean?

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If I were NU, I'd immediately be on the phone with Jim Leonhard. Young. Big Ten background. Well regarded in his short time as a coordinator. Little bit of successful head coaching experience in an interim year. Passed over for the full time HC for a flavor of the day hire so he is currently available.

He's defensive minded so the transition from Fitzgerald will be minimized. He's got pro credentials. He's won without 5 star recruits.

Another guy from left field John Holocek. Incredibly successful run at arguably a top five high school program in the state. Won at a school that does require the kids to be students. Big Ten roots. Pro credentials. Just retired from HS but only 51.

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If I were NU, I'd immediately be on the phone with Jim Leonhard. Young. Big Ten background. Well regarded in his short time as a coordinator. Little bit of successful head coaching experience in an interim year. Passed over for the full time HC for a flavor of the day hire so he is currently available.

He's defensive minded so the transition from Fitzgerald will be minimized. He's got pro credentials. He's won without 5 star recruits.
No. He will be the Packers DC when Joe Barry gets canned.

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Will this help Illini recruiting?

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Wanny pissed and makes a little sense. How do you go from 2 weeks to fired with no new facts in a day or two?


School president was pressured. And this does show a lack of institutional control on the part of the HC. Honestly, I'm surprised the AD wasn't thrown into the wood chipper too. Let's be honest, NU announcing this at like 5 on a Friday in the summer shows they were just hoping it would fly under the radar, and they got hit with enough blowback that it had to happen. I'm sure this was stuff that dates back to when Fitz was playing there, too...I'm sure he knew it was going on, but I won't go as far as to say he encouraged it. That said, firing him had to happen. No way he was going to survive this kind of thing, at least at a Big 10 school in a major market.

Also, fuck Northwestern.

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If I were NU, I'd immediately be on the phone with Jim Leonhard. Young. Big Ten background. Well regarded in his short time as a coordinator. Little bit of successful head coaching experience in an interim year. Passed over for the full time HC for a flavor of the day hire so he is currently available.

He's defensive minded so the transition from Fitzgerald will be minimized. He's got pro credentials. He's won without 5 star recruits.
No. He will be the Packers DC when Joe Barry gets canned.


Packers are at the start of a worse rebuild than even NU

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None of this gay hazing happened until the Wildcats starting playing one way football games at Wrigley Field.

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Nardi wrote:
With today's climate, especially TODAY, the hazers may well put a bullet in own their heads. A bully might as well be a serial killer.

But they’re at least a little gay so they could just embrace that and get a corporate DEI job.


What does the DEI part mean?


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