often

what data have you collected? There is so much imperfection to pre season information it should be given next to no weight. Even if you, or the person whose info you rely upon, watched every single pre season throw (which they don't) that still doesn't provide very reliable information.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Earlier in this thread you projected significant improvement for Fields based on no evidence whatsoever, yet you inexplicably criticize others for relying on "imperfect" anecdotal evidence to inform their opinions while simultaneously portraying yourself as a paragon of clear-headed analysis. Good dolphin, who ya crappin'?

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I project improvement based on a belief that he will have a progression typically seen in players from year 1-2 and then year 2-3.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

My eyes, the players, the coaches, the GM, and countless reports from the media. He's still not trusting his eyes. That makes him late and inaccurate.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Also this...

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Fields signed with Reebok this morning. I didn't know they were still around.

Time to question Fields judgment?

Dan Wiederer had some metrics that disprove that. The scariest being, since sacks started being recorded in 1982, Fields had the fourth worst sack rating. Think about that. 40+ QBs a year, 40 years, he's 1,596 of 1,600+. I highly doubt the OL was that historically bad.

In the fourth quarter last year, Fields scored on 1 of 12 drives when having a chance to tie or take the lead. The 1 score was based on Roquan intercepting the ball at the 15 and then a FG after three plays.

I get what you are saying. 2022 was 2022 and we haven't started 2023. Maybe the pre-season and the training camp concerns coming out of reporters is all because Fields doesn't practice well. Maybe come game time on Sunday, he's locked in and it just all clicks and all this practice stuff is bullshit. I just don't know. But I also don't think you can say he's progressed by every single metric between year 1 and 2.

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Another thing Wiederer mentioned. The Bears were consistently in garbage time last year by the 3rd and 4th quarter. With the opposing team likely scaling back and dropping into coverage, Fields still couldn't feed consistently. Even (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky could perform in garbage time.

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Which players? Why is Fields like them? Do they have the same issues that Fields did with reading defenses, throwing mechanics and an anomalously high sack rate? Did their coaches protect them to the same extent that Getsy protected Fields in the passing game, particularly by choosing to run in obvious passing situations? Why should this comparison be considered valid in any way whatsoever?

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Good Dolphin gets his opinions from ESPN analysts.

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We've been through the fourth quarter stuff. Fields wasn't always good. I saw Pettis, St. Brown and Smith-Marsette (remember him) all end good looking drives dropping nearly perfect throws. Those guys are now WR 7 on their respective teams.

Fields took a lot of sacks, no question.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Still around, but stuck in the 80's. I bought these for the girl's pre-teen-ish daughter for her b-day last year:



she wore them not once. still wrapped in the original tissue in the box prolly in the back of her closet. asked the gf about it and she scolded me
for buying the kid anything other than Jordans.


here's Fields Reebok collection: https://www.reebok.com/c/600000097/coll ... tin_fields

Presumably he is endorsing their new line of running shoes?

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Run? Run where?

Down the hall of the retirement home to make it to bingo on time:



Or stumbling along the sidewalk with your mittens tied to your wrists racing to catch the short bus:








the shoes Spaulding wore to try out for the cheerleading squad:




must be Fields signature kicks in roughly-vaguely-not-really Bears colors:




you can get the same styles (prior gen) as Fields signature shoe for 50 to 80 dollars instead of 150

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Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Half of Aaron Rodgers passes are as it's described. Mahomes also.

Dolphin would be proud of your use of the quote function.

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

Sorry

don't say sorry. wear it proudly. fuck em

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Ok...sorry.

You shouldn't apologize on this board, they can smell fear

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Funny shit. The only source that you identify is yourself. the rest is all total crap that you make up to bloviate with.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Guess the good thing is that we will all see for ourselves on Sunday, but I do suppose the mental masturbation taking place here is somehow therapeutic for some of the posters.

Looking forward to the CFMB 2024 NFL Draft Guide because we certainly get some wildly different takes from the posters here.

Davis Mills: 28 games (26 starts), 5,782 yards, 33 touchdowns and 25 interceptions, 63.6 % completions and 62 sacks. His team is 5-19-1 in his starts.

Justin Fields: 27 games (25 starts), 4,112 yards, 24 touchdowns and 21 interceptions, 59.7% completions and 91 sacks. His team is 5-20 in his starts.

Yeah, this is a painful comparison for the Fields faithful. Mills isn't very good, but he's still a significantly better passer than Fields--and with a far lower sack rate.

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While overall inconsequential to the point being made, I couldn't help noticing that 5-19-1 does not add up to 26 starts?

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

Missed that when I read it....lifted that from here

https://www.vsin.com/nfl/lombardi-when- ... e-the-lie/

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that when Mills was playing no one was saying he has no one to throw to, he has no time, he’s on bad teams, what do you expect?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

They would have looked foolish if the did because he had Laremy Tunsil blocking for him as he threw to Brandin Cooks

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Do Trevor Lawrence faithful feel a similar pain?

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.