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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:12 am 
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He's playing great right now, but in prior seasons he's never finished among the top 20 corners in the league according to PFF.

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He's probably a $14-15M player. He's not a $20M guy. I would feel better about trading him if I thought Stevenson was good.

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He's probably a $14-15M player. He's not a $20M guy. I would feel better about trading him if I thought Stevenson was good.


Yeah, the Bears are in a difficult situation. They're either going to have to overpay for him or receive an underwhelming return in trade.

I'd probably keep him. I don't trust Stevenson or Gordon. While I like Terrell Smith, he is injury prone.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Luckily Poles is african american or we would get to hear a media conspiracy about the only player that has been extended being Kmet.

I want Jaylon Johnson here. He's delusional if he thinks he should be paid like the top cb in the league.

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The Bears have to stop with these diversity hires


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Luckily Poles is african american or we would get to hear a media conspiracy about the only player that has been extended being Kmet.

I want Jaylon Johnson here. He's delusional if he thinks he should be paid like the top cb in the league.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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2 years in a row a young player publicly demands a trade. Poles is the dumpster fire.


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2 years in a row a young player publicly demands a trade. Poles is the dumpster fire.


He was right on Roquan. He's probably right on Johnson

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Nas wrote:
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2 years in a row a young player publicly demands a trade. Poles is the dumpster fire.


He was right on Roquan. He's probably right on Johnson


He replaced Roquan with a shittier player that costs nearly as much


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He's probably a $14-15M player. He's not a $20M guy. I would feel better about trading him if I thought Stevenson was good.


Yeah, the Bears are in a difficult situation. .


They are really not


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Who cares about saving Ginny’s money?

The team needs talent and has a fuckton of cap space. They can absorb a slight overpay to avoid creating another hole on a defense full of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Nas wrote:
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Luckily Poles is african american or we would get to hear a media conspiracy about the only player that has been extended being Kmet.

I want Jaylon Johnson here. He's delusional if he thinks he should be paid like the top cb in the league.


Catholic bias.


Poles did go to BC. You might be on to something. Let's run with it

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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How you improve a football team

You replace players with better players.


Poles seems to have grasp the concept of cutting/trading/not resigning players.

He doesn't seem to understand how to replace with a better player, in fact outside of DJ Moore, he's mostly filled roster spots with shittier players


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Who cares about saving Ginny’s money?

The team needs talent and has a fuckton of cap space. They can absorb a slight overpay to avoid creating another hole on a defense full of them.


that's kind of where i land on this matter


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A slight overpay isn't 40% above market.

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They already overpaid Kmet.

It sucks to lose a guy like Johnson but he isn't worth the money he is evidently asking for. Same with Roquan Smith.

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Nas wrote:
A slight overpay isn't 40% above market.


What is your plan to replace Jaylon Johnson?


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Caller Bob wrote:
Nas wrote:
A slight overpay isn't 40% above market.


What is your plan to replace Jaylon Johnson?


I think Jaylon Johnson is a good cover corner when healthy. I think he's a good guy to have in the locker room. I don't think Jaylon Johnson is a $20M a year player. I don't think Jaylon Johnson is a top 5 corner. The Bears don't have to pay a good player great player money just because they have it. There will be draft and free agent opportunities.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
A slight overpay isn't 40% above market.


What is your plan to replace Jaylon Johnson?


I think Jaylon Johnson is a good cover corner when healthy. I think he's a good guy to have in the locker room. I don't think Jaylon Johnson is a $20M a year player. I don't think Jaylon Johnson is a top 5 corner. The Bears don't have to pay a good player great player money just because they have it. There will be draft and free agent opportunities.


Draft, ok, but that's one less pick you can use to fill gaping holes at Center, Tackle, Defensive End, Safety, another WR etc. (and possibly QB)


Specifically, who would you like to target in FA to replace Jaylon Johnson?


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Luckily Poles is african american or we would get to hear a media conspiracy about the only player that has been extended being Kmet.

I want Jaylon Johnson here. He's delusional if he thinks he should be paid like the top cb in the league.


Catholic bias.


Poles did go to BC. You might be on to something. Let's run with it


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Specifically, who would you like to target in FA to replace Jaylon Johnson?
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Caller Bob wrote:
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Nas wrote:
A slight overpay isn't 40% above market.


What is your plan to replace Jaylon Johnson?


I think Jaylon Johnson is a good cover corner when healthy. I think he's a good guy to have in the locker room. I don't think Jaylon Johnson is a $20M a year player. I don't think Jaylon Johnson is a top 5 corner. The Bears don't have to pay a good player great player money just because they have it. There will be draft and free agent opportunities.


Draft, ok, but that's one less pick you can use to fill gaping holes at Center, Tackle, Defensive End, Safety, another WR etc. (and possibly QB)


Specifically, who would you like to target in FA to replace Jaylon Johnson?

Unless Bagent balls out, they'll draft a quarterback in the first round. They'll also draft Harrison or Bowers. I suspect they'll fix the defensive line in free agency and use a 2nd or 3rd round pick on the center. Connor Williams and Andre James great free agent options.


I was just looking at some free agency site and they list Johnson's value under $10M. I may have been too generous. Here are a few options in free agency:

CJ Henderson
Noah Igbinoghane
Jeff Okudah
Emmanuel Moseley

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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CJ Henderson
Noah Igbinoghane
Jeff Okudah
Emmanuel Moseley



All worse players than Jaylon Johnson


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Claypool trade part 2

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Claypool trade part 2

awful


That feels steep, but these guys usually go for more. Now, they need to lock him up today.

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Have no clue who he is.


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Hopefully he can create a locker room culture that allows Poles to draft good players going forward.

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Sweat is a good not great(never had double digit sacks in a season) and it will almost be a first round pick again.


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Sweat is a good not great(never had double digit sacks in a season) and it will almost be a first round pick again.


He'll have double digit sacks this season. My only concern is he's 27. If he were 25, I would be thrilled. Now, I'm more concerned about the contract he's about to sign with the Bears.

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