Everybody pick a driver each week. Nobody picks the same guy, picking is first come first served. The thread will be posted weekly AFTER QUALIFYING. Then, starting with the first Chase race at New Hampshire, the posters shall be assigned to the driver corresponding in the NEXTEL CUP standings. They keep this driver for the duration of the Chase. The players will also get to pick a driver out of the Chase to make things more interesting. And rack up the points for the championship.

For the second driver picked each week, you cannot pick one of the leftover chase drivers. The chase drivers not picked are effectively dead to us. Until they wreck out your guy and then you'll wish they were someplace else.


Standings

Pts.
Qual.


2,114-Darren-Tinley Park
7th__JIMMIE JOHNSON
28th_Kasey Kahne

1,854-SHARK
16th__CARL EDWARDS
18th__David Ragan

1,691-redneckmommy
19th__GREG BIFFLE
9th__Reed Sorenson

1,663-Baby McNown
1st__JEFF GORDON
10th_Scott Riggs

1,649-donspiracy
3rd__CLINT BOWYER
11th_Paul Menard


1,607-City Of Fools
17th_DENNY HAMLIN
13th_Brian Vickers

1,563-RFDC
5th__DALE EARNHARDT JR.
2nd__Martin Truex Jr.

1,533-spanky
29th_KYLE BUSCH
20th_Mark Martin

1,391-Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
8th__TONY STEWART
4th__Jamie McMurray

Chase drivers NO LONGER available:
JEFF BURTON,
KEVIN HARVICK,
MATT KENSETH.


RACE LINEUP
Dickies 500 | Texas Motor Speedway
November 2, 2008 | Race 34 of 36


POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR__________________________SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet Nicorette / DuPont_______________188.469 28.652 Leader
2 1 Martin Truex Jr. Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker_______188.003 28.723 -0.071
3 07 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Jack Daniel's___________________187.859 28.745 -0.093
4 26 Jamie McMurray Ford Crown Royal_____________________187.859 28.745 -0.093
5 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet AMP Energy / National Guard__187.748 28.762 -0.110
6 17 Matt Kenseth Ford DEWALT__________________________187.428 28.811 -0.159
7 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's / Kobalt Tools__________187.402 28.815 -0.163
8 20 Tony Stewart Toyota The Home Depot_________________187.246 28.839 -0.187
9 41 Reed Sorenson Dodge Target_________________________187.175 28.850 -0.198
10 66 Scott Riggs Chevrolet State Water Heaters____________187.136 28.856 -0.204
11 15 Paul Menard Chevrolet Johns Manville / Menards________186.883 28.895 -0.243
12 44 David Reutimann Toyota UPS________________________186.677 28.927 -0.275
13 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull________________________186.664 28.929 -0.277
14 5 Casey Mears Chevrolet CARQUEST / Kellogg's____________186.632 28.934 -0.282
15 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota NAPA AUTO PARTS_____________186.554 28.946 -0.294
16 99 Carl Edwards Ford Office Depot______________________186.541 28.948 -0.296
17 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Office___________________186.509 28.953 -0.301
18 6 David Ragan Ford AAA______________________________186.503 28.954 -0.302
19 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M________________________________186.490 28.956 -0.304
20 8 Mark Martin Chevrolet U.S. Army______________________186.413 28.968 -0.316
21 77 Sam Hornish Jr.* Dodge Penske Truck Rental___________186.335 28.980 -0.328
22 7 Robby Gordon Dodge MAPEI / Menards_________________186.316 28.983 -0.331
23 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Shell / Pennzoil_______________186.297 28.986 -0.334
24 347 Marcos Ambrose Toyota Little Debbie________________186.284 28.988 -0.336
25 01 Regan Smith* Chevrolet DEI / Principal Financial Group___186.207 29.000 -0.348
26 42 Juan Montoya Dodge Texaco / Havoline_______________186.162 29.007 -0.355
27 78 Joe Nemechek Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing__________186.079 29.020 -0.368
28 9 Kasey Kahne Dodge Budweiser________________________186.021 29.029 -0.377
29 18 Kyle Busch Toyota M&M's___________________________185.778 29.067 -0.415
30 19 Elliott Sadler Dodge Stanley Tools____________________185.778 29.067 -0.415
31 12 Ryan Newman Dodge Alltel__________________________185.695 29.080 -0.428
32 96 Ken Schrader Toyota DLP HDTV______________________185.695 29.080 -0.428
33 84 Scott Speed Toyota Red Bull________________________185.644 29.088 -0.436
34 38 David Gilliland Ford CitiFinancial______________________185.370 29.131 -0.479
35 43 Bobby Labonte Dodge Cheerios / Betty Crocker_________185.141 29.167 -0.515
36 10 A.J. Allmendinger Dodge Country Crock Spread_________184.881 29.208 -0.556
37 25 Brad Keselowski Chevrolet GoDaddy.com______________184.766 29.226 -0.574
38 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet AT&T Mobility___________________184.754 29.228 -0.576
39 21 Bill Elliott Ford Little Debbie__________________________184.609 29.251 -0.599
40 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite__________________________184.483 29.271 -0.619
41 22 Dave Blaney Toyota Caterpillar_______________________184.300 29.300 -0.648
42 202 Joey Logano Toyota The Home Depot_________________184.281 29.303 -0.651
43 28 Travis Kvapil Ford Academy Sports + Outdoors__________183.798 29.380 -0.728

Did Not Qualify
44 40 Bryan Clauson Dodge The Guitar Hero World Tour / Target_183.536 29.422 -0.770
45 70 Tony Raines Chevrolet iQ Drive________________________183.449 29.436 -0.784
46 45 Chad McCumbee Dodge Richard Petty Driving Experience___182.371 29.610 -0.958
47 213 Max Papis Toyota GEICO____________________________180.138 29.977 -1.325
48 08 Johnny Sauter Dodge FUBAR All Natural Drink____________179.087 30.153 -1.501

+ Set by Owner Points
* Denotes Rookie

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Martin Truex Jr.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Paul Menard

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Richard Petty

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You know me like that.

Joking.

I'll take Robbie, Chip, Ernie, Uncle Charley, and Jamie McMurray.

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You know me like that.

Vickers

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Mark Martin

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If he's available, I'll take David Ragan and the #6 Triple "A" Ford Sunday at Texas. I think David's on the verge of actually winning a race, and this might be a good spot for him to take the checkered flag. Meanwhile, as for the "Chase for the Cup" participants, all indications are Jimmie Johnson & the #48 Lowe's Chevy are really, really close to taking his third straight Sprint Cup title. If Jimmie wins Sunday, it may defeat the purpose of tuning into the last 2 races November 9th at Phoenix & November 16th at Homestead, FL. He leads my guy, Carl Edwards, and the #99 Office Depot Ford now by 183 points with 3 races left. The time has come, NASCAR fans, to tweak the "Chase for the Cup" format.

Kasey Kahne

Standings

Pts.
Fin-Pts.
TotalPts.____Pts.Back


2,114-Darren-Tinley Park
15th-118__JIMMIE JOHNSON
24th-91_Kasey Kahne
2,323_____Leader

1,854-SHARK
1st-195__CARL EDWARDS
11th-130__David Ragan
2,179_____-144

1,663-Baby McNown
2nd-175__JEFF GORDON
25th-88_Scott Riggs
1,926_____-397

1,649-donspiracy
4th-165__CLINT BOWYER
22nd-97_Paul Menard
1,911_____-412

1,691-redneckmommy
5th-160__GREG BIFFLE
37th-52__Reed Sorenson
1,903_____-420

1,607-City Of Fools
17th-112_DENNY HAMLIN
18th-114_Brian Vickers
1,833_____-490

1,533-spanky
6th-155_KYLE BUSCH
12th-127_Mark Martin
1,815_____-508

1,563-RFDC
20th-108__DALE EARNHARDT JR.
8th-142__Martin Truex Jr.
1,813_____-510

1,391-Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
16th-115__TONY STEWART
3rd-170__Jamie McMurray
1,676_____-647

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These were the thoughts of some of the drivers Sat. before the race.

http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlin ... index.html

"We've worked very hard," Johnson said, "and I know everybody has listened to me over the last 34 weekends talking about how hard we've worked this year. At the end of the day, we all know we didn't get off to a good start. And we had to work very hard to be in this position. We're here and we're proud of it."

"Realistically and historically, he's the champion," Kyle Busch said. "I guess you would have more drama than with the old points system with Jimmie being able to battle all the way back and catch up and surpass myself and Carl. Whatever [NASCAR] wants to do -- it's their sand box."

Burton said the Chase addressed longtime complaints associated with the previous point system. "It rewards winning," he said of the Chase. "It rewards running up front, it rewards leading laps, it does everything that you guys [the media] all thought was really cool. When somebody does it better than everybody else, don't talk about how the point system is messed up, talk about how good they're doing. That's what the focus ought to be."

Dale Earnhardt Jr., Johnson's Hendrick Motorsports teammate, agreed: "In my opinion, the Chase does what it's supposed to do. There's no real true formula that anybody in this room could come up with to make the perfect Chase every time. I think that you've just got to give Jimmie and those guys credit for whatever they've been able to accomplish up to this point. They're a dominant team in this sport at this time. You can't handicap an individual for being great."

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They should suspend Gilliland for the last two races for damn-near killing somebody intentionally.

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that whole switching drivers thing...yeah, I wish I'd done that...

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JP Montoya is unsafe at any speed.

That's why I had him for the dead pool.

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Donspiracy, Juan Pablo Montoya's had a tough go of things since he became a NASCAR driver last year. His #42 Havoline/Wrigley's Dodge has only 1 win in 2 seasons on the Sprint Cup circuit, and I believe it came on the road course at Sonoma last summer. That's quite a drought for a guy who I think was really, really good in Formula 1.

As for the contest, it's far from over with two weeks left.

Using the Cuyler Modified Scoring System, the max points for each week is 370 if your drivers finish 1st and 2nd. Both must lead a lap and one of the two must lead the most laps.

The min points for each week is 71 if your drivers finish 42nd and 43rd with neither driver leading a lap. This has almost been done a couple times.

Talladega
Baby McNown
38th-54_JEFF GORDON
41st-45_Martin Truex Jr.

Kansas
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
40th-43_TONY STEWART
43rd-39__Martin Truex Jr.

Dover
spanky
43th-34_KYLE BUSCH
36th-60_Jamie McMurray

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Gilliland parked for rough driving, crashing Montoya

Story
http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/headlin ... index.html

Video
http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2008/11 ... ostPopular

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Things are getting a little tighter around here .

Darren, I think it's between Jimmie Johnson & the #48 Lowe's Chevy & Carl Edwards' and the #99 Office Depot Ford for the Sprint Cup title with 2 races left. Unfortunately, Jimmie won the first race this season where they're headed next Sunday, Phoenix. I heard "Jurko" last week on ESPN 1000's "Motorsports Weekly" segment voice his frustration with the current "Chase for the Cup" format in the wake of Jimmie's surprising 2nd place finish 2 weeks ago in Atlanta, all the yellow cautions down the stretch, and the likelihood that it's his third straight Sprint Cup title to lose. I know NASCAR is planning some scheduling changes next season, plus I read that Kansas might be awarded a second Sprint Cup race, and that Kentucky also wants one in the near future. I'm not sure what they can do, but if Jimmie wins Sunday or finishes 9th or better, what's the point in tuning into the last race of the year in Homestead, FL November 16th?

Don't assume a top ten finish for JJ at Phoenix. Although if he does well and has one of those only needs to finish 35th at the last race, it will still be worth watching.

If the title is secured, the race will be crazy. Think about it, this is the last race. There are a lot of guys that need a good finish and some know it's there last ride in the car. So expect lots of contact racing.

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OR - just do the same thing as everyone else and watch football at that time!

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explains your current ninth place standing, spanky

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