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The problem isn’t Love. It’s a horrible defense that can’t cover the middle of the field and continually allows 3rd and long conversions. De'Vondre Campbell cannot cover anyone and that dumbass DC keeps asking him to cover WRs. I can’t believe he still has a job. Just terrible.



It is sickening to continue to watch this unit play, the inside linebacker’s with Campbell and Walker (yes Bob I am giving you credit)is atrocious but it is past time for Joe Barry to go.

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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

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He's just average!

His numbers say differently when you look at starts to begin a career.

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Start a career? He's like middle age lmao. He will be out of the league in 5 years.

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Start a career? He's like middle age lmao. He will be out of the league in 5 years.

He is younger than Fields, he is 25.

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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

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He's just average!

His numbers say differently when you look at starts to begin a career.

That's because most of the people we are comparing to didn't have their second career start in a season they were turning 25. That's why he is better than Peyton Manning for instance.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Brick wrote:
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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

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He's just average!

His numbers say differently when you look at starts to begin a career.

That's because most of the people we are comparing to didn't have their second career start in a season they were turning 25. That's why he is better than Peyton Manning for instance.

So 25 is now old? :lol:

And he just turned 25 in November.

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With Christmas coming up, I'm hoping the Packers have a great week.

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It certainly is for someone making their first 15 starts. That's why the fact that he has outperformed Peyton Manning's first 15 starts doesn't really matter. Wasn't the whole point of drafting him and having him sit for 2 years so he would be doing this?

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It certainly is for someone making their first 15 starts. That's why the fact that he has outperformed Peyton Manning's first 15 starts doesn't really matter. Wasn't the whole point of drafting him and having him sit for 2 years so he would be doing this?

You keep bringing up Manning, no clue what his numbers were to start with. I think they drafted him with the idea that he needed to upgrade footwork but had good arm potential. Rodgers was coming off 2 subpar seasons for him so no way to know he was going to be the league MVP the next 2 years so it worked out this way. Quarterbacks used to never start right away, maybe it will be a good thing.

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Start a career? He's like middle age lmao. He will be out of the league in 5 years.

He is younger than Fields, he is 25.


No he's not.

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It certainly is for someone making their first 15 starts. That's why the fact that he has outperformed Peyton Manning's first 15 starts doesn't really matter. Wasn't the whole point of drafting him and having him sit for 2 years so he would be doing this?

You keep bringing up Manning, no clue what his numbers were to start with. I think they drafted him with the idea that he needed to upgrade footwork but had good arm potential. Rodgers was coming off 2 subpar seasons for him so no way to know he was going to be the league MVP the next 2 years so it worked out this way. Quarterbacks used to never start right away, maybe it will be a good thing.
I am bringing up Manning's numbers to show why the "First 15 starts" metric for Love is so flawed. Most of the good ones weren't in year 3 when they got start 2.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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It certainly is for someone making their first 15 starts. That's why the fact that he has outperformed Peyton Manning's first 15 starts doesn't really matter. Wasn't the whole point of drafting him and having him sit for 2 years so he would be doing this?

You keep bringing up Manning, no clue what his numbers were to start with. I think they drafted him with the idea that he needed to upgrade footwork but had good arm potential. Rodgers was coming off 2 subpar seasons for him so no way to know he was going to be the league MVP the next 2 years so it worked out this way. Quarterbacks used to never start right away, maybe it will be a good thing.
I am bringing up Manning's numbers to show why the "First 15 starts" metric for Love is so flawed. Most of the good ones weren't in year 3 when they got start 2.

Going back that probably isn’t true, quarterbacks didn’t start right away and of course the passing game has evolved immensely.

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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

Go Pack!!!

He's just average!

His numbers say differently when you look at starts to begin a career.

That's because most of the people we are comparing to didn't have their second career start in a season they were turning 25. That's why he is better than Peyton Manning for instance.

Manning was considered to pretty much of a finished product coming out of college, which is why he was selected at the top of the draft and thrust right into the starting role. Clearly Love was viewed as a bit of a project and was expected to sit and learn. A better comparison at this point would be with Rodgers than Manning.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Going back that probably isn’t true, quarterbacks didn’t start right away and of course the passing game has evolved immensely.
How far back are we talking here? When you look at most of the best quarterbacks of all time they were starting by year 2 with most of them starting in year 1.

What has changed is how often players now start from day 1.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Going back that probably isn’t true, quarterbacks didn’t start right away and of course the passing game has evolved immensely.
How far back are we talking here? When you look at most of the best quarterbacks of all time they were starting by year 2 with most of them starting in year 1.

What has changed is how often players now start from day 1.

I don’t know, I haven’t done precise research. I know for a long period of time, quarterbacks coming direct out of college did not start right away. Hell, Peyton didn’t start right away in college.

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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

Go Pack!!!

He's just average!

His numbers say differently when you look at starts to begin a career.

That's because most of the people we are comparing to didn't have their second career start in a season they were turning 25. That's why he is better than Peyton Manning for instance.

Manning was considered to pretty much of a finished product coming out of college, which is why he was selected at the top of the draft and thrust right into the starting role. Clearly Love was considered to be bit of a project and was expected to sit and learn. A better comparison at this point would be with Rodgers than Manning.

The point is that it isn't a valid comparison at all. "Starts to being a career" isn't a stat that should be used. I also wouldn't say the Love sucks because he is far behind Kurt Warner in that.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Hawg Ass wrote:
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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

Go Pack!!!

He's just average!

His numbers say differently when you look at starts to begin a career.


The numbers say he got outclassed by journeyman Baker Mayfield yesterday


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I don't like all the Packer hate this week. Go Pack!

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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

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He's just average!

His numbers say differently when you look at starts to begin a career.


The numbers say he got outclassed by journeyman Baker Mayfield yesterday

You would have no clue as I know you didn’t watch the game, Caller Bob could have put up numbers against the Packers defense yesterday.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
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Also, anyone that thinks Love stinks is probably football retarded.

Go Pack!!!

He's just average!

His numbers say differently when you look at starts to begin a career.


The numbers say he got outclassed by journeyman Baker Mayfield yesterday

You would have no clue as I know you didn’t watch the game, Caller Bob could have put up numbers against the Packers defense yesterday.


I'm confused with such HOF talents such as Rashan Gary, and the Georgia Boys, how a journeyman QB could put up such great numbers?


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Watch the games and you will learn. It is a great to way to have a better thought than reading a box score and commenting.

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If I tune into the games will I see all of Rashan Gary's make believe sacks that Zippy has been telling me about?


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Why don’t you address that with Zippy?

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we have all seen a losing season from love and nobody is comparing him to peyton manning

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we have all seen a losing season from love and nobody is comparing him to peyton manning

He hasn’t played a season.

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we have all seen a losing season from love and nobody is comparing him to peyton manning

He hasn’t played a season.


We know. We're watching too.

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we have all seen a losing season from love and nobody is comparing him to peyton manning

He hasn’t played a season.


We know. We're watching too.

That is not what your post states.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
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we have all seen a losing season from love and nobody is comparing him to peyton manning

He hasn’t played a season.


We know. We're watching too.

That is not what your post states.


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