The guy is probably the biggest traitor the country has ever seen in a public official.

He has singled-highhandedly destroyed the sovereignty of the United States by refusing to enforce immigration law and allowing more than ten million illegals into the country.

He needs to be tried and hung for treason after he's impeached. If there is a civil war, it's going to be because of him and his fucking boss.

The DHS needs to be disbanded. The DOD should defend the boarders with troops on the ground. Enough of this BS.

Just following orders. But Abbott? That's the real bad guy. Sex trafficker.

Future voters for the Dem-O-Rats

Don't allow a rube to climb over your back. You had that manufactured outrage first. Tell me where the illegals touched you.

I'm using data from conservative sources because I don't want to give YOU PEOPLE any additional reasons to claim you've been victimized.

The New York Post says 4 million illegals entered the country while Biden was president, and 1.5 million remain. That 1.5 million is less than .5% of our population and fills the gap between the birth and mortality rate. Unlike MANY of the people who died, MANY illegals pay taxes and contribute in some way to the country.

https://nypost.com/2023/09/21/shocking- ... ok-office/

As with most manufactured outrage by you and the rest of MAGAverse, the data, from a conservative source, shows that you're being a hypocrite. That didn't surprise me, but I still wanted to point it out. According to the Cato Institute, Trump allowed a higher percentage of illegals to stay in the country than Biden has. Outside of a 1 year aberration, Trump deported fewer people than Obama.


https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show ... rump-biden

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-tru ... mmigration

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/the-f ... migration/

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads ... der-trump/

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Well then mayor Adams, mayor Johnson, the people on the south and west sides of Chicago and, the parents of the students at James Madison High School should stop complaining. I can throw in Martha's Vineyard too.

New York just moved some kids to remote learning temporarily to turn their high school into an illegal immigrant shelter ahead of bad weather. It’s a humane move made at the expense of taxpayers and their children.

That seems new, but who knows?

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Americans love complaining. An American will complain about things that benefit them. We wouldn't have a country if we listened to complaints. Did I mention that we are hypocrites?

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Let them die or thank Governor Abbott? Governor DeSantis or Abbott wasn't pulling these political stunts or beating the president up when Trump was in office. Naturally, none of you all were complaining about illegal immigration.

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Like I said, it’s a humane move.

We’re just now at the part of the game where refusal to govern the southern border is having a tangible impact on non-border states.

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Nas, have you considered hosting some of these migrants at your home?

By Governor Abbott you meant Joe Biden and his administration, right?

What's this about? Is he thinking about trading Justin Fields?

I thought this thread was about the Cubs new pitcher.

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I don't support human trafficking, but maybe one of the good governors can send a bus downstate for you.

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Any stats to the amount of drugs coming over the open boarders? Have all the immigrants been vetted, tested for diseases like I don't know maybe Covid. Travelers' Diarrhea is also a thing in Mexico. Who knew.

Not to mention all the potential terrorist cells that can just walk right across the boarder and receive their left over Obama phones to post Tik Tok videos to Iran.

Forgot about the human trafficking. I'm sure the open boarders are not contributing to those numbers.

Let me check the search history and see if you were saying the same when President Trump was deporting a lower percentage of illegals than Biden and Obama. I'm sure President Trump checked for all of those things.

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It’s a volume game, friend. There’s a bipartisan consensus on this one given the scale of the problem.

Also…Trump people didn’t complain about illegal immigration? Is that what you’re going with?

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Are you saying that fewer than 1.5M people stayed during Trump's presidency? Or are you saying Biden is arresting and deporting too many?

No, my friend, there weren't people on this board accusing Trump of having open borders when he was deporting fewer people than Obama and allow a higher percentage to remain in our country. Governor Abbott and DeSantis definitely weren't hitting him over the head with his "failures." I can only assume because of the usual partisan politics. That's fine. I just don't have to pretend that anyone has some principled position.

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What I was or wasn't posting during Trump's presidency does not change any of the facts I listed above.

But but Trump...

You didn't list any facts or stats. Are you aware of that? I'm the only one that shared any data. BTW, you know the Obama phones are literally W Bush phones? The program came from his administration. As always, Juiced is jacked on estrogen and low on testosterone and facts. Sad!

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I’m saying Biden’s admin let in more people in the last quarter than Trump’s did in FY19. I’ll exclude the obviously lower COVID year stats. The articles you linked show that Biden allowed ~3.5x as many people to stay in the country, and those are the ones that were tracked.

The population of Chicago is ~2.7m people. Your link shows that Biden let in ~2.5m people in about 2yrs. That’s before the massive increase in activity since the March 23 cutoff.

That’s why it’s an actual problem that even big brane genuzes like John Fetterman can identify.

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I shared multiple links so you can stitch it all together. The year 2019 was an aberration when it came to Trump's deportations. That's the only year he deported more than Obama or Biden when it comes to absolute numbers. Even then, he deported a lower percentage. The 2020 numbers skew the 2 year comparison because, according to the Cato Institute, there were ONLY 400k arrests in 2020 due to COVID-19.

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Who cares about percentages when the underlying figures are so dramatically different?

Biden could forcibly remove over 85% of the people he allowed into the country and he’d still be letting more people stay than Trump.

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The percentages matter because you're comparing data for Trump that includes a year when there were virtually zero arrests because of COVID-19. I've pointed this out, and the links point this out, but you're choosing to ignore this. As well as the data shows that Trump deported fewer people in absolute numbers and as a percentage in his first 2 years than Obama did the majority of the time Obama was in office. There were no complaints about open borders for Trump. As I said, I understand it's a useful political tool, but I don't have to pretend MAGAverse has some principled position on illegal immigration.

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I’m ignoring it because it’s irrelevant in comparison with the volumes driving today’s problems. I’m not doing a “what about Obama” bit.

And again, people bitched all the time about the border during the Trump years. Trump bitched. Half his schtick was bitching that nobody would let him build a wall.

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It matters because if you double the 2019 numbers instead of using the useless 2020 numbers there wouldn't be a significant difference between Trump and Biden when it comes to the border. Only rhetoric.

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From one of the Cato links:

Again, the snapshot of outcomes as of December 31, 2021, overstates Trump removals because it includes the removals of border crossers arrested during the Trump administration but removed by Biden from January to December 2021. Unfortunately, we don’t have a snapshot of outcomes as of January 20, 2021, but another DHS report shows that as of March 31, 2020, Trump had removed just 37 percent of those arrested through 18 months of fiscal years 2019 and 2020...


Knowing that there is still a high likelihood of having to release migrants who enter illegally, President Biden has created some legal pathways for immigrants. Unfortunately, his administration has capped these programs at such a low level that massive backlogs have developed, which has effectively shut down the processing of new applicants. President Biden should prioritize the removal of these arbitrary caps, which would enable more immigrants to enter the country legally and reduce illegal immigration.

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From the description of the people on the MAGA Buses, about 95% of the people are women, kids, and the elderly. Presumably, the people who are being deported are men. I would argue we don't need more biological women in America, but they probably scare Caller Bob less than the men would. The Mexican women may also know how to cook, clean, and be silent, as God intended.

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Why would you double FY19?

That was the largest year of the Trump admin and came in just under a million. Biden has let in more people in the last four months.

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Looks like there's 5 times as many coming over the border and Nas wants Biden to get a pat on the back.