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Honestly I'm in the same boat as most guys, I hate going to the doctor. It's irrational, but it's something that has always bothered me to a great degree. And I have to do better.

Thanks for sharing Division and the best hopes for a full recovery. And to everyone here who has lost friends or family, I'm really sorry for your losses.


Get your ass to the doctor. It's important to take charge of your health because if you don't, no one will do it for you. I'm selfish. I want to live and help my family going forward. Find a doctor that you can talk to as your prime physician. I have two great ones, one in Kaiser and one in the VA. Also, do your own research and when you talk to doctors be prepared to ask important questions and understand what they are saying. Good luck.

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Got my PSA results after nearly 6 weeks after surgery. It was undetectable, which means that for now, surgery successfully removed the cancer. Now let's hope it stays this way.

Now, must deal with the other issues...



Good for you!! I think of what is going on with me is just another battle. Don't ever give up.

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Good news Div, hope it continues to go well.

on a somewhat related note. We have to meet with our benefits company. They are pushing a cancer program for families. Looks to be about $40 a month for a family and they provide coverage for a whole number of treatments and such. Anyone gotten one of these? I hate spending more money a month, but I know one diagnosis can rock your world financially.



As a general message, if there are any veterans out there or you know friends or relatives who are veterans, mention to them to check on enrolling with the VA for medical care. They can quickly check with a local VA health center and enroll in the system is they are eligible and there are counsellors to help them navigate through the system.

There has been much bad publicity about the VA in the last ten years but a lot of that was blown out of proportion and a lot of bad things that were there are fixed. I've been helped greatly by the system in the last 20 years.

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Met with my surgeon yesterday. He was pleased with the way things are going so far. PSA test required every three months for the time being as well as office visit.

Incontinence seems to be getting better. Gave me a prescription for Cialis. Will see how that goes…


I think those are the things my dad does not want to talk to me about.


IS there anyone else that he would talk to? Sometimes good friends can be very helpful to talk to about this stuff. Maybe sound out one or two of his buddies? Don't know if he is religious, but maybe a priest or minister?

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Spaulding wrote:
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Met with my surgeon yesterday. He was pleased with the way things are going so far. PSA test required every three months for the time being as well as office visit.

Incontinence seems to be getting better. Gave me a prescription for Cialis. Will see how that goes…


I think those are the things my dad does not want to talk to me about.


IS there anyone else that he would talk to? Sometimes good friends can be very helpful to talk to about this stuff. Maybe sound out one or two of his buddies? Don't know if he is religious, but maybe a priest or minister?

Honestly not wanting to talk about things like that is really dumb assed on my part. Fortunately my wife and best friend have been been both open to talk and pushing me all the time. They’ve been godsends.

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The Hawk wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
The Division wrote:
Met with my surgeon yesterday. He was pleased with the way things are going so far. PSA test required every three months for the time being as well as office visit.

Incontinence seems to be getting better. Gave me a prescription for Cialis. Will see how that goes…


I think those are the things my dad does not want to talk to me about.


IS there anyone else that he would talk to? Sometimes good friends can be very helpful to talk to about this stuff. Maybe sound out one or two of his buddies? Don't know if he is religious, but maybe a priest or minister?

Honestly not wanting to talk about things like that is really dumb assed on my part. Fortunately my wife and best friend have been been both open to talk and pushing me all the time. They’ve been godsends.



Men don't talk about a lot of health things, be it mental or physical, and it is to our detriment. I know Im mostly guilty of it myself beyond my wife. Everything is fine is a great answer, until its not.


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women hate when men talk about health problems. they get mad when you try to hide it and then turned off when you talk about it.

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women hate when men talk about health problems. they get mad when you try to hide it and then turned off when you talk about it.


That isn't my experience. Maybe my age is talking.

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I'm with Ike. Same as the bitching about cable or your cell phone service.

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The Hawk wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
The Division wrote:
Met with my surgeon yesterday. He was pleased with the way things are going so far. PSA test required every three months for the time being as well as office visit.

Incontinence seems to be getting better. Gave me a prescription for Cialis. Will see how that goes…


I think those are the things my dad does not want to talk to me about.


IS there anyone else that he would talk to? Sometimes good friends can be very helpful to talk to about this stuff. Maybe sound out one or two of his buddies? Don't know if he is religious, but maybe a priest or minister?

Honestly not wanting to talk about things like that is really dumb assed on my part. Fortunately my wife and best friend have been been both open to talk and pushing me all the time. They’ve been godsends.



Men don't talk about a lot of health things, be it mental or physical, and it is to our detriment. I know Im mostly guilty of it myself beyond my wife. Everything is fine is a great answer, until its not.


I doubt I'm going to change this. I had surgery a couple of years ago and didn't tell anyone until I was out of surgery. Even though I knew I wasn't coming home the same day. I didn't want anyone to worry. I've already told my kids that if I know things are getting bad as I continue to age, I'm going to end it myself. I have no desire for anyone to have to wipe my ass for years or help me care for myself. I'm too prideful of a man for that. I need my independence.

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I cannot tell you how thankful I am that I was able to help care for my Dad in the last few days, and be with him that last few minutes of his life. He gave me so much, it was the least I could do for him. I got the feeling that my wife even appreciated the chance to help with his care.

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I cannot tell you how thankful I am that I was able to help care for my Dad in the last few days, and be with him that last few minutes of his life. He gave me so much, it was the least I could do for him. I got the feeling that my wife even appreciated the chance to help with his care.

Don't take that from your kids.

I go back and forth on this. Quality of life is essential to me but murdering myself is still murder. IF life is a gift, do I have the right to end it?

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The Hawk wrote:
Spaulding wrote:
The Division wrote:
Met with my surgeon yesterday. He was pleased with the way things are going so far. PSA test required every three months for the time being as well as office visit.

Incontinence seems to be getting better. Gave me a prescription for Cialis. Will see how that goes…


I think those are the things my dad does not want to talk to me about.


IS there anyone else that he would talk to? Sometimes good friends can be very helpful to talk to about this stuff. Maybe sound out one or two of his buddies? Don't know if he is religious, but maybe a priest or minister?

Honestly not wanting to talk about things like that is really dumb assed on my part. Fortunately my wife and best friend have been been both open to talk and pushing me all the time. They’ve been godsends.



Men don't talk about a lot of health things, be it mental or physical, and it is to our detriment. I know Im mostly guilty of it myself beyond my wife. Everything is fine is a great answer, until its not.


I doubt I'm going to change this. I had surgery a couple of years ago and didn't tell anyone until I was out of surgery. Even though I knew I wasn't coming home the same day. I didn't want anyone to worry. I've already told my kids that if I know things are getting bad as I continue to age, I'm going to end it myself. I have no desire for anyone to have to wipe my ass for years or help me care for myself. I'm too prideful of a man for that. I need my independence.


I think that is really selfish on your part not the other way around. Why deprive someone of a chance to help take care of you. Do you think that they are not going to "worry about you"? DO you think that maybe, just maybe, that they just might trade some moments of "caring" for you for maybe some advice on a problem that they have? Or even watching a baseball or football game together? Killing yourself is as awful as it gets. It certainly isn't "brave" whatsoever.

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Great news!


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That’s great, happy to hear you’re in good health.


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Today is one year since I had my surgery. I am still cancer free. One year down, four more to go until I'm considered cured. My side effects like incontinence and ED are much better. If they never improved any more from here, my quality of life would be high and neither would stop me from doing the things I normally do. Well the ED would slow me down some... :lol:

Since it's nearly the end of the year, it's a good time to make a New Year's Resolution to get yourself checked out. Get that PSA (and DRE if doc recommends it) done, get that colonoscopy done if you're of age. Catching it early is key: It will most likely result in an easier treatment and will give you a better shot a beating it.

Spaulding, since I think you're the only female on the bored, get your mammogram and smears done and a colonoscopy if you're of age.


Y'all listen to this man!

Congratulations and here's to a happy and healthy new year.


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Today is one year since I had my surgery. I am still cancer free. One year down, four more to go until I'm considered cured. My side effects like incontinence and ED are much better. If they never improved any more from here, my quality of life would be high and neither would stop me from doing the things I normally do. Well the ED would slow me down some... :lol:

Since it's nearly the end of the year, it's a good time to make a New Year's Resolution to get yourself checked out. Get that PSA (and DRE if doc recommends it) done, get that colonoscopy done if you're of age. Catching it early is key: It will most likely result in an easier treatment and will give you a better shot a beating it.

Spaulding, since I think you're the only female on the bored, get your mammogram and smears done and a colonoscopy if you're of age.


Missed that post last year. I can maybe ask my mom how things are specifically. All I get otherwise is had my yearly checkup, I'm good.

I have about 5 orders for mammograms and have never been in. I used to go in yearly to my girl dr but she retired about 5 or so years ago and I can't find a new one. I think I've been every 2 years or so. I've never even thought about a colonoscopy.

I'm glad you're good! My FIL did not go in and his prostate Ca has spread to his bones, he's on year 4ish of 5 for the mortality rate and he's starting to decline. We'll see how it goes.


Thanks Spaulding!

Sorry to hear about your FIL. Hope he can pull through but if not, I hope he's as comfortable as he can be during his decline.


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This may be a dumb question... how did you know you weren't emptying your bladder?


They do an ultrasound test. I take a leak then they do the ultrasound and see what's left. But I was going 5-8 times a night so I knew I wasn't emptying. I also had a test where they put purified water into your bladder and they ask you when you can feel the urge to go. They are looking for an overactive bladder. The normal amount of urine that is held in the bladder when it signals that you have to go is between 250-350 mL (12 ounces is roughly 330 mL). And this test measures the flow rate of your urine. I could only empty about 200 mL but they saw that I had an overactive bladder where my bladder wasn't full but there were signals from my bladder to my brain saying that I had to take a leak. And my flow rate was weak.

The above was because my prostate was growing into my bladder, blocking off the sphincter and into the urethra and that caused the low volume and low flow rate. So by taking care of the cancer, I also got my nights back. Now, I go once a night, maybe twice and maybe none if I am sleeping really well.


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Frequency in small amounts. Do you pee 5 times in a night for 10 seconds? or get up right after you just got up to try again?


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Today is one year since I had my surgery. I am still cancer free. One year down, four more to go until I'm considered cured. My side effects like incontinence and ED are much better. If they never improved any more from here, my quality of life would be high and neither would stop me from doing the things I normally do. Well the ED would slow me down some... :lol:

Since it's nearly the end of the year, it's a good time to make a New Year's Resolution to get yourself checked out. Get that PSA (and DRE if doc recommends it) done, get that colonoscopy done if you're of age. Catching it early is key: It will most likely result in an easier treatment and will give you a better shot a beating it.

Spaulding, since I think you're the only female on the bored, get your mammogram and smears done and a colonoscopy if you're of age.


There is a guy I work with that is going to be 47 and has some family history. Keeps dragging his feet about getting checked out. I told him it is no big deal and you will be kicking yourself if you find out later you could have done something about it if you had only gone in earlier.


I have a friend who's around 54. He doesn't eat green veggies, never has and he has high cholesterol. when he was in his 40s, he took that cologuard at home test and it came back as a high potential for colon cancer. He still refused to get a colonoscopy. Saw him last year at Christmas and after hearing my story, he kind of relented and said he would get it done but I don't think he ever has. Will see him again in a couple of weeks and I'll check up to see if he got it. It's getting to the point that if they find something, it may be too late. I hope not but as you said, the more you keep putting it off...The treatment is harder and the chances of survival are worse.


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Good luck with your prognosis, I hope it works out. How old are you out of curiosity? My dad was diagnosed but they found it too late and it had spread past his prostate so removal was not an option
unfortunately. I don't remember exactly how long he fought it but I believe he hung in there for about 7 years or so. Eventually it spread to his spine and liver and he passed in 2018 at age 69. Agree with your sentiment to get tested earlier rather than later.


I'm 55, actually got the diagnosis just prior to my 55th birthday. Should work out just fine for me.

EDIT: I'm sorry to hear that you lost your dad to it. Condolences to your family. Hope that he was surrounded by family when he passed, and I hope he was as comfortable as possible.

You and if you have any brothers will have to watch your PSA values. My urologist in Illinois said that for every "immediate" relative (brothers, fathers, your father's brother(s)), your chance of cancer increases. My uncle had his removed 15 years ago, now both me and his son have been diagnosed.


I’ll be sure to start asking. I’m 45 now and it didn’t come up in my physical. Unfortunately I lost my younger brother 4 years ago so I’m the only male left. Again, glad you caught it in time.


Dang, man, sorry to hear about your brother.

When I lived in Illinois, my urologist, due to family history, suggested that around 45 (maybe even 40 if there is a strong family history) is when you should start monitoring PSA. Hopefully, you can get one done the next time you're getting a physical.

Another reason I posted all this stuff is because guys typically don't take care of their health as much as they should. I got PSA tests regularly up until about 2014 (was living in the UK at the time) then I got PSA tested in 2016 and 2017 (I'd get one during my work physical) but after 2017, they didn't give us physicals at work any longer, so I didn't get one for four years. Not too smart on my part. Could have detected it earlier, I suppose, and with my bladder obstruction issues, could have gotten it taken care of before now. But what's done is done.



Yeah, Kaiser stopped testing my PSA after I turned 70. Pretty much was its policy. I had a discussion with my primary care guy in the VA and we decided to test it every six months after a small rise in PSD was detected. I was still within the "guidelines" for PSA result for a given age but after the PSA came up again, he ordered a biopsy which said that I had prostrate cancer but it was pretty diagnosed pretty early to be treated.
Through this, my wife was incredible in driving me to the cancer treatment hospital which was about 30 miles away and the rest of my family and friends were great also. You really find out how blessed you are when you do through shit like this.


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Got my PSA results after nearly 6 weeks after surgery. It was undetectable, which means that for now, surgery successfully removed the cancer. Now let's hope it stays this way.

Now, must deal with the other issues...



Good for you!! I think of what is going on with me is just another battle. Don't ever give up.


Thanks, I hope your treatments take care of yours, too!


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Today is one year since I had my surgery. I am still cancer free. One year down, four more to go until I'm considered cured. My side effects like incontinence and ED are much better. If they never improved any more from here, my quality of life would be high and neither would stop me from doing the things I normally do. Well the ED would slow me down some... :lol:

Since it's nearly the end of the year, it's a good time to make a New Year's Resolution to get yourself checked out. Get that PSA (and DRE if doc recommends it) done, get that colonoscopy done if you're of age. Catching it early is key: It will most likely result in an easier treatment and will give you a better shot a beating it.

Spaulding, since I think you're the only female on the bored, get your mammogram and smears done and a colonoscopy if you're of age.


There is a guy I work with that is going to be 47 and has some family history. Keeps dragging his feet about getting checked out. I told him it is no big deal and you will be kicking yourself if you find out later you could have done something about it if you had only gone in earlier.


Please tell your colleague this...

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Just seeing your PCP every year for physical helps prevent a lot of problems


Younger people are developing colon cancer more and more and doctors still don't know why. I was 27 when I had my first colonoscopy a few years back. I had it done luckily because there was a sign (saw blood in my stool). 3 polyps were removed, non-cancerous, but 2 were abnormally large. Dad had colon cancer in his early 50s. If you have family history, 47 is too damn old. The stuff you drink isn't that bad and then you go in and get the Michael Jackson drug and you wake up feeling so refreshed -- it's like you were asleep for a week.

Where polyps get cut out, diverticula will eventually form. Kind of like getting arthritis eventually when you get your knee scoped.

You get something fixed only to have Mother Nature come in and fuck you anyway.


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Met with my surgeon yesterday. He was pleased with the way things are going so far. PSA test required every three months for the time being as well as office visit.

Incontinence seems to be getting better. Gave me a prescription for Cialis. Will see how that goes…


I think those are the things my dad does not want to talk to me about.


IS there anyone else that he would talk to? Sometimes good friends can be very helpful to talk to about this stuff. Maybe sound out one or two of his buddies? Don't know if he is religious, but maybe a priest or minister?

Honestly not wanting to talk about things like that is really dumb assed on my part. Fortunately my wife and best friend have been been both open to talk and pushing me all the time. They’ve been godsends.


I was kind of like that until now. Now, I have no issues talking about my experience, even the embarrassing parts of the surgery, like the incontinence and ED. Guys who may go through this need to know what they are up against. And they need to know that they are not alone; many guys have already gone through it. I was lucky in that my uncle had his removed the old fashioned way 15 years ago so I could talk about it with him. Didn't ask him how long or if he had ED but we talked about all the other stuff so it helped put my mind at ease a bit.


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Good luck with your prognosis, I hope it works out. How old are you out of curiosity? My dad was diagnosed but they found it too late and it had spread past his prostate so removal was not an option
unfortunately. I don't remember exactly how long he fought it but I believe he hung in there for about 7 years or so. Eventually it spread to his spine and liver and he passed in 2018 at age 69. Agree with your sentiment to get tested earlier rather than later.


I'm 55, actually got the diagnosis just prior to my 55th birthday. Should work out just fine for me.

EDIT: I'm sorry to hear that you lost your dad to it. Condolences to your family. Hope that he was surrounded by family when he passed, and I hope he was as comfortable as possible.

You and if you have any brothers will have to watch your PSA values. My urologist in Illinois said that for every "immediate" relative (brothers, fathers, your father's brother(s)), your chance of cancer increases. My uncle had his removed 15 years ago, now both me and his son have been diagnosed.


I’ll be sure to start asking. I’m 45 now and it didn’t come up in my physical. Unfortunately I lost my younger brother 4 years ago so I’m the only male left. Again, glad you caught it in time.


Dang, man, sorry to hear about your brother.

When I lived in Illinois, my urologist, due to family history, suggested that around 45 (maybe even 40 if there is a strong family history) is when you should start monitoring PSA. Hopefully, you can get one done the next time you're getting a physical.

Another reason I posted all this stuff is because guys typically don't take care of their health as much as they should. I got PSA tests regularly up until about 2014 (was living in the UK at the time) then I got PSA tested in 2016 and 2017 (I'd get one during my work physical) but after 2017, they didn't give us physicals at work any longer, so I didn't get one for four years. Not too smart on my part. Could have detected it earlier, I suppose, and with my bladder obstruction issues, could have gotten it taken care of before now. But what's done is done.



Yeah, Kaiser stopped testing my PSA after I turned 70. Pretty much was its policy. I had a discussion with my primary care guy in the VA and we decided to test it every six months after a small rise in PSD was detected. I was still within the "guidelines" for PSA result for a given age but after the PSA came up again, he ordered a biopsy which said that I had prostrate cancer but it was pretty diagnosed pretty early to be treated.
Through this, my wife was incredible in driving me to the cancer treatment hospital which was about 30 miles away and the rest of my family and friends were great also. You really find out how blessed you are when you do through shit like this.


Hope things are going well for you now, Hawk.



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Sadly two announcements today, both related to prostate cancer:

MLK's son Dexter dead at 62.
Ryne Sandburg (age 64) with Metastatic prostate cancer.

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RIP Ryan's sex life

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RIP Ryan's sex life


IT'S RYYYYYYYYYYYNNNNNNEEEEEEEE!!!!


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Caller Bob wrote:
IkeSouth wrote:
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IT'S RYYYYYYYYYYYNNNNNNEEEEEEEE!!!!


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Caller Bob wrote:
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IT'S RYYYYYYYYYYYNNNNNNEEEEEEEE!!!!


:lol:

RYNE RYNE RYNE, NOT RYAN!!!!

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