Embiid is no doubt the better player. He is the league MVP. and the only reason Philly is considered to be a title contender. He has nowhere the supporting cast that the Joker has.

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Disagree entirely. Dickey Simpkins thinks Jokic is superior and it's not even close.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Indeed.

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Joel Embiid is "quietly" having one of the most dominant seasons in NBA history offensively. He is currently avg. more than a point per minute. Something even Michael Jordan didn't do. Last player to accomplish this feat? Wilt Chamberlain.

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Generational running from the grind

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Those guys play 82 games, not 60. My general thought is Embiid has to start playing games with ouchies because come playoff time, those can't be a factor. You can't get used to only playing when you're 100% because when shit really counts, ouchies shouldn't even enter your mind. This whole, "i'm dinged up so I'm not at an optimum" has to change before he becomes an all time great.

Every time he participates in a basketball game the guy is hurt in one way or another. And that has nothing to do with his numbers. That is quite an accomplishment no matter how it is spun.

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Gotta defer to Simpkins here, he played and would know . Jokic is king.

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Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Any direct quotes from Dickey or is it just simply better to take the word of a "dick" as the gospel truth? Just Asking Questions

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Why is Embiid scared to play in Denver?

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I don't know if that is truly the case or social media clap trap. By Woj's account he wanted to go Saturday and the medical staff held him out. He outplays Jokic Pretty consistently when they matchup head to head and Philly also wins the majority of the games as well. He has thoroughly dominated Jokic in their last 2 head to heads. I don't know if he is ducking him but he does need to play in Denver at some point. I actually hope both make it to the finals so we can see them go at it on the ultimate stage.

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Embiid injured last night. MRI scheduled.

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Wemby is gonna hold up better

whoever made yao ming's feet made joel embiid's knees.

wasted pick

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

Won’t be the MVP

I’m glad Woj clarified that’s it’s the reigning MVP Joel Embiid and not a different Joel Embiid.

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Clubhouse Cancer!

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/424 ... rs-meeting

The MVP window on Embiid has closed, he is still an unstoppable force when healthy and motivated, but he is neither and cannot see him being locked in for more than a few weeks in the playoffs.

This one is over right?

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Whatever "better" that Jokic might be is due to Embiid being injured often. When Embiid is good to go he's clearly better. However he misses too many games. Ability wise they aren't in the same conversation. Though he's a very good offensive player, Joker is too much of a liability on defense to ever be truly the "better" player.

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Yeah, it's about as over as an argument gets

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Only due to injury.My guy was on his way to back to back MVPs until a dirty play derailed his season last year.

No one much cares about offensive stats these days because it's well known that no defense is being played in the NBA.

I'm about ready to concede but only because Embiid is always injured. Not because of ability. Joker is a helluva of an offensive player, but his defensive limitations would always be the thing which would make me favor "prime" Embiid. But Embiid will never play over 55 games in a season again and it looks like all of the injuries have finally caught up with him.

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Finally? He was drafted in 2014 and has less than 500 games played. You've probably played more games in that time period.

At his peak he was better than the Joker however. And thoroughly dominated him in head to head matchups too.

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Don't forget Embiid hasn't played Jokic in Denver since before Covid.

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It's a shame his legs keep falling off. You can't be great with no legs. Walton had no feet but still managed to win a couple chips.

Todd Gurley was the Rams starting RB last time Embiid played in Denver

But yeah its not just injury related obviously, when healthy Embiid has never come close to Jokic as a player.

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
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