Better than this year Stroud or next year Stroud?

Both overall. More wins, touchdowns, total yards, and QBR.

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Are you going to average Stroud's two years against Williams' one year?

Nope. I think he'll put up better numbers than Stroud in both. I actually expect Stroud to take a step back. I think C-Will will likely have more turnovers, but that's the only area where I don't believe he can be better than Stroud.

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Purdy is a hard guy to evaluate, specifically because hes not a game manager. He's a risk taker, but he's not as good as the typical risk takers like Josh Allen.

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I doubt the 49ers would even give up a 6th round pick for Fields

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Shanahan wouldn't give his sixth mountain bike for Fields. They hard passed on him in 2021. They got their own pick wrong but they weren't wrong for passing on Fields either.

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Love is certainly going to get paid more than Purdy

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We were both wrong about Stafford. I have no problem admitting it. Seems like you do.

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Dean, let's check the replay...


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Looks like you tucked and ran once your awful take went south...

Your turn

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You first

We’ll see. Love will set the market this season and Purdy will look to beat it the following (assuming he has a similar year as this one). It happens every season.

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I would take Purdy over Love. I think we've overrated Love and Stroud. I've see Stroud as a top 5 quarterback. I don't think he's better than Love. I certainly don't believe Love is top 5.

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Shouldn’t we let them play a little before declarations are made?

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Prognosticating is boring when things are settled. I prefer to get out in front of things. I would rather someone laugh at a wrong prediction of mine than claim that I believed something after the fact.

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I laugh a lot then.

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What's your beef with Stroud, nas. MVP consideration, multiple comeback wins with huge fourth quarter throws, playoff appearance, etc, all in his first year where he doesn't know anything and hasn't seen anything. Why so down on him?

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I have no beef with him. I have no beef with Love beyond being a Packer. I simply don't believe they're as good as the hype. The Texans were winning games because of their defense, not Stroud. If C-Will has only 23 passing touchdowns next year, I'll be disappointed.

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Stroud missed 2 games, 23 TD in 15 games was good enough to tie Hurts (who played all 17 ) for 13th in total TDs at 23, with most players above Stroud playing another game or two. Mahomes had 27 TD in 16 games.

Only Dak (36), Love (32), Brock Mid (31) and Goff (30) >= 30 TD

Prepare to be disappointed. C-Will won’t touch these numbers as a rookie, even if he is good.

Stroud finished his rookie season completing 63.9% of his passes for 4,108 yards with 23 touchdowns to five interceptions for a 100.8 passer rating, leading the NFL in pass yards per game (274) and having the lowest interception rate (1.0%).

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Not sure about that, nas. They averaged 5.7 more points per game than they did last year. Why? That's all Stroud. That per game increase has them ranked 14 overall in offense dvoa. On defense they ranked 17, just behind the bears. Stroud was the primary driver of their turnaround.

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I feel like this post is another candidate for ZippyTakesGoneBad. The list is long and distinguished.

Every receiver for the Texans increased their production with Stroud, including the washed TE they brought in from Dallas.

e.g., Nico Collins:

2021 446 yds
2022 481 yds
2023 1297 yds

Why would that be all Stroud? They had a lot of low scoring games. The defense wasn't giving up a lot of points.

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You would be picking in the top 5 if Love had only 23 passing touchdowns. I don't expect C-Will to have fewer turnovers, but I expect better or comparable in every other category. You can quote me on this.

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It's clearly Stroud for many reasons, including the stats Zippy cited. I'm not bashing the Houston defense but they were per the numbers an average to slightly above average D for the whole season, comparable to the bears. They surrendered 19.7 per game on defense, good enough for 12th overall. They scored 22.7 per game, more than the Chiefs. Last year, without Stroud, they scored 17 per game.

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Houston's defense gave up fewer than 20 points 9 times during the regular season. The Texans scored more than 23 points in 4 games and there were special teams and defensive touchdowns included in there. Justin Fields had the same total touchdowns a year before and averaged virtually the same number this year. I love the efficiency, but I would take Love's overall production over Stroud's every year.

Edit: Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had more touchdowns in fewer games, with a great defense, in 2018 and we wanted to run him out of town. Now it makes you a top 5 player. GTFOH!

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