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None of this is about a view of Russia. It's about the recognition of clumsy propaganda and the reality that someone may be compromised. Did Tucker plant the seeds for every view you have about Russia?


I'm agnostic on Russia, but I'm not terrified of Tucker interviewing its leader. A better question is, why are you?


No one who has been here for the past 9 years believes you.


:lol: I don't care.


It's good to see that you are capable of forming an opinion. I don't believe that either. You've been trying to convince us that you're objective for a decade.

What service are you providing the Russians? How long have you been providing it?

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One refrain I've heard from critiques of Putin and by extension Tucker Carlson bumping uglies with Putin is that Putin puts on the knee-pads and gets to work any time Xi Jinping/China reaches out to Russia for anything.

I dunno, that seems more like Putin doing the balance of powers thing playing China off/against the U.S.A--
keep your friends close, enemies closer type thing maybe too. China helps out Russia too, ignoring our embargoes and buying Russian oil etc

not a fan of Putin but prefer to Russia to China by a country mile.

Cuz shit hits the fan with China, Russia needs us and we likely will need Russia, if only for extra cannon-fodder. And nobody makes better cannon-fodder than Russian soldiers.


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The imagery of the train station, the focus on Lenin, and the music made me want to cancel all aide to Ukraine and leave NATO.



Best thought you've had in a while. Get out of NATO and stop lining the pockets of Nazi Ukrainian grifters. I like it!


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The imagery of the train station, the focus on Lenin, and the music made me want to cancel all aide to Ukraine and leave NATO.



Best thought you've had in a while. Get out of NATO and stop lining the pockets of Nazi Ukrainian grifters. I like it!


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The imagery of the train station, the focus on Lenin, and the music made me want to cancel all aide to Ukraine and leave NATO.



Best thought you've had in a while. Get out of NATO and stop lining the pockets of Nazi Ukrainian grifters. I like it!


Russophilia can be treated by turning the oven on to 475 and then putting your head in. :wink:

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The imagery of the train station, the focus on Lenin, and the music made me want to cancel all aide to Ukraine and leave NATO.



Best thought you've had in a while. Get out of NATO and stop lining the pockets of Nazi Ukrainian grifters. I like it!


Russophilia can be treated by turning the oven on to 475 and then putting your head in. :wink:

Beats putting your head in the sand.


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That's how you get fucked.

Ok. How about this? Keep your head on a swivel. Look, this EU and Klaus Schwarzenegger are on a road to hell. Let's keep some options open.


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Tucker said, "Leadership requires killing people," so Putin finished off Navalny. Maybe Tucker Carlson can now run for president in Russia.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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None of this is about a view of Russia. It's about the recognition of clumsy propaganda and the reality that someone may be compromised. Did Tucker plant the seeds for every view you have about Russia?


I'm agnostic on Russia, but I'm not terrified of Tucker interviewing its leader. A better question is, why are you?

No one seemed to care that he interviewed Putin including Putin who made fun of him after.

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Putin finished off Navalny.


Did he? Or did the CIA?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. You don't know and I don't know. But if you don't think that's at least a possibility, you've been completely propagandized.

Regardless, right now the U.S. is doing the same thing to Assange as Russia did to Navalny and trying to do it to Trump.

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 Post subject: Re: Tucker Carlson
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Brick wrote:
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None of this is about a view of Russia. It's about the recognition of clumsy propaganda and the reality that someone may be compromised. Did Tucker plant the seeds for every view you have about Russia?


I'm agnostic on Russia, but I'm not terrified of Tucker interviewing its leader. A better question is, why are you?

No one seemed to care that he interviewed Putin including Putin who made fun of him after.



A lot of people on this board seem very upset that Carlson went to Moscow.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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None of this is about a view of Russia. It's about the recognition of clumsy propaganda and the reality that someone may be compromised. Did Tucker plant the seeds for every view you have about Russia?


I'm agnostic on Russia, but I'm not terrified of Tucker interviewing its leader. A better question is, why are you?

No one seemed to care that he interviewed Putin including Putin who made fun of him after.



A lot of people on this board seem very upset that Carlson went to Moscow.

Like who?

Reacting to things he said that are stupid is different than being mad he did it.

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 Post subject: Re: Tucker Carlson
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Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Brick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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None of this is about a view of Russia. It's about the recognition of clumsy propaganda and the reality that someone may be compromised. Did Tucker plant the seeds for every view you have about Russia?


I'm agnostic on Russia, but I'm not terrified of Tucker interviewing its leader. A better question is, why are you?

No one seemed to care that he interviewed Putin including Putin who made fun of him after.



A lot of people on this board seem very upset that Carlson went to Moscow.

Like who?

Reacting to things he said that are stupid is different than being mad he did it.



Come on. You're upset that he "gave Putin a platform."

There are hundreds of dumb interviews every week. Why obsess over this one?

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I am? I believe I pointed out how little the interview actually mattered.

I was more upset about the stupid grocery store stuff.

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I am? I believe I pointed out how little the interview actually mattered.

I was more upset about the stupid grocery store stuff.



Why does that upset you? Do you believe it's not true?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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If you believe Tucker's reporting, you should say that.


I'm not sure what I believe. Obviously, you believe someone's reporting. I don't think you've been in Moscow recently.


I don't believe you aren't sure what you believe. If you're afraid to share, it's okay to say that.



I don't trust Tucker as much as I trust my wife, but I trust him more than I trust Rachel Maddow or NPR. How about that?


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I am? I believe I pointed out how little the interview actually mattered.

I was more upset about the stupid grocery store stuff.



Why does that upset you? Do you believe it's not true?

I don't think it was $400 here.

I also think it's stupid to say groceries are cheaper when wages are so much lower in Russia.

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I can give you a first person perspective of Poland during Russian “direction”, soon after and then far after.

Russia rule: so good we had to build a wall to keep people out

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Well, you did say and I'm paraphrasing that things have never been good in America.


So which period of American history do you define as good?

I was too young in the 80s to know but I think the 90s and beyond have been "good".


So out of almost 250 years of American history, you only think that 30 years or so have been good?

Sounds like you don't like the USA very much!

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Well, you did say and I'm paraphrasing that things have never been good in America.


So which period of American history do you define as good?

I was too young in the 80s to know but I think the 90s and beyond have been "good".


So out of almost 250 years of American history, you only think that 30 years or so have been good?

Sounds like you don't like the USA very much!

I'm no expert on 1840s America. Sorry.

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Well, you did say and I'm paraphrasing that things have never been good in America.


So which period of American history do you define as good?

I was too young in the 80s to know but I think the 90s and beyond have been "good".


So out of almost 250 years of American history, you only think that 30 years or so have been good?

Sounds like you don't like the USA very much!

I'm no expert on 1840s America. Sorry.


So you only offer opinions on topics about which you are an expert?

You may noit be much of a historian, but you certainly are a comedian. :lol:

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Putin finished off Navalny.


Did he? Or did the CIA?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. You don't know and I don't know. But if you don't think that's at least a possibility, you've been completely propagandized.

Regardless, right now the U.S. is doing the same thing to Assange as Russia did to Navalny and trying to do it to Trump.


Something something Occam's razor.

I'm not 100% certain about nearly anything. Even a DNA test leaves some wiggle room. Do you know who else gives Putin and Russia much grace and gives America and its leaders none? Tucker Carlson.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Brick wrote:
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Well, you did say and I'm paraphrasing that things have never been good in America.


So which period of American history do you define as good?

I was too young in the 80s to know but I think the 90s and beyond have been "good".


So out of almost 250 years of American history, you only think that 30 years or so have been good?

Sounds like you don't like the USA very much!

I'm no expert on 1840s America. Sorry.


So you only offer opinions on topics about which you are an expert?

You may noit be much of a historian, but you certainly are a comedian. :lol:

All things considered 1776 was good.

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We were getting our asses handed to us...

Great comeback story though.

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We were getting our asses handed to us...

Great comeback story though.


Facts! #TWTW

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Putin finished off Navalny.


Did he? Or did the CIA?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. You don't know and I don't know. But if you don't think that's at least a possibility, you've been completely propagandized.

Regardless, right now the U.S. is doing the same thing to Assange as Russia did to Navalny and trying to do it to Trump.


Something something Occam's razor.

I'm not 100% certain about nearly anything. Even a DNA test leaves some wiggle room. Do you know who else gives Putin and Russia much grace and gives America and its leaders none? Tucker Carlson.


You give grace to Biden and other Rats. That's about it.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Putin finished off Navalny.


Did he? Or did the CIA?

That's exactly what I'm talking about. You don't know and I don't know. But if you don't think that's at least a possibility, you've been completely propagandized.

Regardless, right now the U.S. is doing the same thing to Assange as Russia did to Navalny and trying to do it to Trump.


Something something Occam's razor.

I'm not 100% certain about nearly anything. Even a DNA test leaves some wiggle room. Do you know who else gives Putin and Russia much grace and gives America and its leaders none? Tucker Carlson.


You give grace to Biden and other Rats. That's about it.


I don't think America is a rat.

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