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Looks like we are hiring some assistant named Stubblefield from Oregon. never heard of him, but at this point I don't consider that a bad thing. I'd rather have some unknown young assistant from a good program than some middle of the road retread. at least with the young guy there's a chance at catching lightning in a bottle which is really our only hope for success these days.

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I was hoping for someone in their 40's who had some head coaching experience. This guy is 51 and has never been a head coach anywhere. I would have been happier with the guy from Cleveland State, but we'll give Stubblefield the benefit of the doubt and see what happens.


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DePaul now 1-7 on the year and about to start BigEast schedule. I think they still have a game with Chicago State coming up. Other than that, they might very well finish with 2 wins this year. I'll give them 3 total with some unexpected miracle win over a BigEast school who is taking a nap.

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DePaul now 1-7 on the year and about to start BigEast schedule. I think they still have a game with Chicago State coming up. Other than that, they might very well finish with 2 wins this year. I'll give them 3 total with some unexpected miracle win over a BigEast school who is taking a nap.


Chicago St isn't an auto win this year for them.

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DePaul now 1-7 on the year and about to start BigEast schedule. I think they still have a game with Chicago State coming up. Other than that, they might very well finish with 2 wins this year. I'll give them 3 total with some unexpected miracle win over a BigEast school who is taking a nap.


Chicago St isn't an auto win this year for them.


would be pretty hilarious if they finish the year with 1 win.

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Jeannie Ponsetto really should be on some kind of wall of shame at the school for the damage she did to this program. I don't think they'd be even able to get an up and comer type coach at this point.

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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?

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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?

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Tall Midget wrote:
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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.

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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


Depaul is still a better job than Loyola. Unfortunately you'd never know it by the moves that the ADs happen to make. It's almost as if they don't want to be big time.

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good dolphin wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.


DePaul is maybe half a step better than Loyola at this point. If Valentine is looking to move up and is capable of doing so, he can find some place where he can at least take a full step up.


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Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


Depaul is still a better job than Loyola. Unfortunately you'd never know it by the moves that the ADs happen to make. It's almost as if they don't want to be big time.


How do you like the development of Rubin? I was concerned about his ability on this level after your assessments from the off season. There is still a lot of room to grow but he has been very good on defense from the beginning.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.

I'm guessing he doesn't move until Izzo announces his retirement even if Izzo is going to coach one more year. He may not be the next coach there but the other options to replace Izzo are all struggling.

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Brick wrote:
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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.

I'm guessing he doesn't move until Izzo announces his retirement even if Izzo is going to coach one more year. He may not be the next coach there but the other options to replace Izzo are all struggling.


It's a different Valentine.

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good dolphin wrote:
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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.


No one decent has wanted to coach at DePaul in a long time. It's hard to imagine a rising young coach like Valentine would move there rather than a hundred other places.

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good dolphin wrote:
Brick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.

I'm guessing he doesn't move until Izzo announces his retirement even if Izzo is going to coach one more year. He may not be the next coach there but the other options to replace Izzo are all struggling.


It's a different Valentine.

It's his brother and he was a GA there with many ties to the primary Michigan State recruiting grounds. He's on the short list and he is one of the few that would accept the "year in waiting" head coach position. Coach K announced he was retiring and Scheyer taking over after the next year. I could see Izzo doing the same thing but a current major head coach isn't going to do that and even then I'm not sure the big names they would likely try to get would be realistic.

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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


Depaul is still a better job than Loyola. Unfortunately you'd never know it by the moves that the ADs happen to make. It's almost as if they don't want to be big time.


How do you like the development of Rubin? I was concerned about his ability on this level after your assessments from the off season. There is still a lot of room to grow but he has been very good on defense from the beginning.
I haven't seen him since he has been in college but I saw a lot of him in high school. He always looked like he could be special defensively in college. He's long and athletic. He was an elite shot blocker in high school and looked like that part of his game would transfer to college. His twin was more skilled offensively but nowhere near the defender/rebounder that he is. I just never saw either as a top 100 type of kid. To me Loyola is about his level. Big East not so sure. That is why I paused when my guy offered him at Depaul.

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They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.


DePaul is maybe half a step better than Loyola at this point. If Valentine is looking to move up and is capable of doing so, he can find some place where he can at least take a full step up.


Jon Scheyer wanted Depaul bad when he was an assistant at Duke and believed that he had it. I doubt that he would even consider Loyola's job if it were available at the time.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.


DePaul is maybe half a step better than Loyola at this point. If Valentine is looking to move up and is capable of doing so, he can find some place where he can at least take a full step up.


Jon Scheyer wanted Depaul bad when he was an assistant at Duke and believed that he had it. I doubt that he would even consider Loyola's job if it were available at the time.


You're saying DePaul picked Stubblefield over Scheyer? Wow.

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Tall Midget wrote:
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Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
They're going to end up stealing Valentine from my Ramblers, aren't they?


Really? Isn't Loyola a much better job at this point? What does DePaul have going for it other than the increasingly irrelevant memory of Ray Meyer?


money and conference

Valentine will have options after this season. De Paul may not be his best but it's possible he likes the city.

I hope he continues to grow as a coach at Loyola. He has matured quite a bit this season.


DePaul is maybe half a step better than Loyola at this point. If Valentine is looking to move up and is capable of doing so, he can find some place where he can at least take a full step up.


Jon Scheyer wanted Depaul bad when he was an assistant at Duke and believed that he had it. I doubt that he would even consider Loyola's job if it were available at the time.


You're saying DePaul picked Stubblefield over Scheyer? Wow.

The other context is that he supposedly also was considering UNLV and two months later he magically was named the coach-in-waiting at Duke. It was very likely Scheyer putting pressure on Duke to pay him more and make him contractually the next head coach.

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The other context is that he supposedly also was considering UNLV and two months later he magically was named the coach-in-waiting at Duke. It was very likely Scheyer putting pressure on Duke to pay him more and make him contractually the next head coach.


Thanks for the contextual information.

My question is this: If a head coaching candidate had to choose between two roughly equal offers, one from Loyola and the other from DePaul, would he really pick DePaul over Loyola?

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DePaul hasn't been relevant since the 90s.

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The other context is that he supposedly also was considering UNLV and two months later he magically was named the coach-in-waiting at Duke. It was very likely Scheyer putting pressure on Duke to pay him more and make him contractually the next head coach.


Thanks for the contextual information.

My question is this: If a head coaching candidate had to choose between two roughly equal offers, one from Loyola and the other from DePaul, would he really pick DePaul over Loyola?


Loyola is a better job. DePaul is in a better conference which could lead to getting better players in theory. My guess is DePaul NIL is close to non existent so your not getting better players no matter the conference.

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The other context is that he supposedly also was considering UNLV and two months later he magically was named the coach-in-waiting at Duke. It was very likely Scheyer putting pressure on Duke to pay him more and make him contractually the next head coach.


Thanks for the contextual information.

My question is this: If a head coaching candidate had to choose between two roughly equal offers, one from Loyola and the other from DePaul, would he really pick DePaul over Loyola?


Loyola is a better job. DePaul is in a better conference which could lead to getting better players in theory. My guess is DePaul NIL is close to non existent so your not getting better players no matter the conference.


I agree. DePaul is a coaching graveyard.

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The other context is that he supposedly also was considering UNLV and two months later he magically was named the coach-in-waiting at Duke. It was very likely Scheyer putting pressure on Duke to pay him more and make him contractually the next head coach.


Thanks for the contextual information.

My question is this: If a head coaching candidate had to choose between two roughly equal offers, one from Loyola and the other from DePaul, would he really pick DePaul over Loyola?

It depends on how much money DePaul has to pay. The Big East tv deal gives them a chance to just give someone a million more dollars a year to not go 3-26.

But, they likely pay pretty close to the same. Porter Moser was fine enough to run it back one more year until Oklahoma made him an offer he couldn't turn down.

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Hasn't Ponsetto all but said that DePaul men's basketball just exists to leech off Big East money and fund everything else without being competitive? Even got a publicly funded arena out of it, too.

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Hasn't Ponsetto all but said that DePaul men's basketball just exists to leech off Big East money and fund everything else without being competitive? Even got a publicly funded arena out of it, too.


Probably, but she hasn't been the athletic director at DePaul for 4 or 5 years.

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So, are they hiring Porter Moser?

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Great hire for DePaul.

Such an odd career path...Loyola to OU to Depaul

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