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I think Williams has a good chance to be a star. At worst, he's an average starting quarterback. He is going to trounce Fields in terms of what Fields did in Chicago his first 3 years but that is a pretty low bar.



While it seems absurd now, 2 months back Bears with Fields at QB went into Lambeau as low as anywhere from 1.5 to 2.5 point dogs to the Packers...books were saying the 2 teams were equal on a neutral field with Pack giving the points b/c home-field. Might even have been some early lines with Bears favored (on the road in Lambeau? When's the last time that happened); Pack's defense was handing out NFC Offensive Player of the Week awards to every QB they played for a minute there in December.

Bears will be anywhere from -7 to double-digit dogs to the Pack @Lambeau with C-Will or any rookie QB

Yeah, and the Bears scored 9 points, lost by 8, and Fields went for 148 yards in that game. :lol:

The Bears aren't going to be 2 point underdogs to the Packers on the road next year with Fields either.

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I'd hazard a guess that the Bears and Eagles have a handshake agreement to send Fields to Philly for a 4th or 5th round pick if the Bears can't find anything else. The Eagles haven't added a backup QB behind
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I completely agree with you. Albert Breer brought this up a couple of days ago and he had a smile on his face.

Dan Patrick mentioned the Eagles this morning. This must be gaining momentum.

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Agree it was an absurd line, free $$$'s for Packers bettors. Combination of Fields hype going into the game and Pack's defense having a bad December


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I'd hazard a guess that the Bears and Eagles have a handshake agreement to send Fields to Philly for a 4th or 5th round pick if the Bears can't find anything else. The Eagles haven't added a backup QB behind
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I completely agree with you. Albert Breer brought this up a couple of days ago and he had a smile on his face.

Dan Patrick mentioned the Eagles this morning. This must be gaining momentum.



Buyer's remorse with Hurts.


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I think Williams has a good chance to be a star. At worst, he's an average starting quarterback. He is going to trounce Fields in terms of what Fields did in Chicago his first 3 years but that is a pretty low bar.


When you get away from CFMB and it's members you'd find very few that actually buy this however. I tend to agree with them more than I agree with you.

I'll take wagers on Williams, with whatever team he goes to, going better than 40 tds and 30 interceptions in 3 years. I'll even include rushing touchdowns if you want which gives Fields 54 tds.


It has to be based on his playing an equal number of games or less and include Fields' rushing TDs. If you provide that then you have a bet.

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Brick wrote:
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I think Williams has a good chance to be a star. At worst, he's an average starting quarterback. He is going to trounce Fields in terms of what Fields did in Chicago his first 3 years but that is a pretty low bar.



While it seems absurd now, 2 months back Bears with Fields at QB went into Lambeau as low as anywhere from 1.5 to 2.5 point dogs to the Packers...books were saying the 2 teams were equal on a neutral field with Pack giving the points b/c home-field. Might even have been some early lines with Bears favored (on the road in Lambeau? When's the last time that happened); Pack's defense was handing out NFC Offensive Player of the Week awards to every QB they played for a minute there in December.

Bears will be anywhere from -7 to double-digit dogs to the Pack @Lambeau with C-Will or any rookie QB

Yeah, and the Bears scored 9 points, lost by 8, and Fields went for 148 yards in that game. :lol:

The Bears aren't going to be 2 point underdogs to the Packers on the road next year with Fields either.

Not if Caleb is QBing that's for sure

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I think Williams has a good chance to be a star. At worst, he's an average starting quarterback. He is going to trounce Fields in terms of what Fields did in Chicago his first 3 years but that is a pretty low bar.


When you get away from CFMB and it's members you'd find very few that actually buy this however. I tend to agree with them more than I agree with you.

I'll take wagers on Williams, with whatever team he goes to, going better than 40 tds and 30 interceptions in 3 years. I'll even include rushing touchdowns if you want which gives Fields 54 tds.


It has to be based on his playing an equal number of games or less and include Fields' rushing TDs. If you provide that then you have a bet.

First 40 games of Williams career is fine. We can include rushing tds for both Williams and Fields.

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Brick wrote:
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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I think Williams has a good chance to be a star. At worst, he's an average starting quarterback. He is going to trounce Fields in terms of what Fields did in Chicago his first 3 years but that is a pretty low bar.


When you get away from CFMB and it's members you'd find very few that actually buy this however. I tend to agree with them more than I agree with you.

I'll take wagers on Williams, with whatever team he goes to, going better than 40 tds and 30 interceptions in 3 years. I'll even include rushing touchdowns if you want which gives Fields 54 tds.


It has to be based on his playing an equal number of games or less and include Fields' rushing TDs. If you provide that then you have a bet.

First 40 games of Williams career is fine. We can include rushing tds for both Williams and Fields.


What if Williams throws fewer TDs and Fewer Ints than Fields? How do you score the bet? Let's just make it TDs and call it.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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I think Williams has a good chance to be a star. At worst, he's an average starting quarterback. He is going to trounce Fields in terms of what Fields did in Chicago his first 3 years but that is a pretty low bar.


When you get away from CFMB and it's members you'd find very few that actually buy this however. I tend to agree with them more than I agree with you.

I'll take wagers on Williams, with whatever team he goes to, going better than 40 tds and 30 interceptions in 3 years. I'll even include rushing touchdowns if you want which gives Fields 54 tds.


It has to be based on his playing an equal number of games or less and include Fields' rushing TDs. If you provide that then you have a bet.

First 40 games of Williams career is fine. We can include rushing tds for both Williams and Fields.


What if Williams throws fewer TDs and Fewer Ints than Fiekds? How do you score the bet? Let's just make it TDs and call it.

Williams will have a higher amount of total touchdowns(rush + passing) and a passing td/int ratio better than 4/3 through 40 games. Both of those are true, I win. If either of those aren't true, you win.

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(‘Cults: A practical guide’ by Ian Howarth, p25)

The do's
Do try to keep in regular contact via email or telephone, even if there is little response.



Do express sincere love for the cult member at every available opportunity.



Do keep a diary of comments, attitudes and events associated with his/her life in the cult.



Do always welcome back the cult member into the family home no matter what is said.



Do keep copies of all written correspondence from you and the cult member.



Do record all names, addresses and phone numbers of people linked with the cult.



Do try and bite your tongue if the cult member makes unkind comments.



Do read all the recommended books related to cults, mind control and the specific cult.



Do seek help from organisations specialising in counter-cult work.





The don'ts
Do not rush into adopting a potential solution before carefully researching the cult problem.



Do not say, “you are in a cult, you are brainwashed.”



Do not give money to the member of the group.



Do not give away original cult documents to anyone, provide copies only.



Do not feel guilty. This is not a problem caused by families.



Do not act in an angry or hostile manner towards the cult member.



Do not feel alone. It happens to thousands of families every year.



Do not underestimate the control the cult has over each member.



Do not antagonise the cult member by ridiculing his/her ‘beliefs.’



Do not be judgemental or confrontational towards the cult member.



Do not antagonise any of the cult’s leadership or other members.



Do not be persuaded to hire a cult ‘specialist’ without verifying his/her qualifications.



Do not give up hope of success, no matter how long it takes.



Do not neglect yourself or other family members.

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I love bets that take three years to resolve.

I honestly may be dead in three years so good luck collecting from my heirs.

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Williams will have a higher amount of total touchdowns(rush + passing) and a passing td/int ratio better than 4/3 through 40 games. Both of those are true, I win. If either of those aren't true, you win.


That'll work. Now what's the stakes?

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Williams will have a higher amount of total touchdowns(rush + passing) and a passing td/int ratio better than 4/3 through 40 games. Both of those are true, I win. If either of those aren't true, you win.


That'll work. Now what's the stakes?

Loser admits they were wrong on something.

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LTG - don't do it. If you're in need of cash to bribe your cult leader to let you out of the cult then there are better ways.

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C-Will's rookie year will be better than any year Fields has had. Book it!

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Brick admitting he was wrong would be the biggest win of all time. So no way LTG wins this.

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C-Will's rookie year will be better than any year Fields has had. Book it!


I, honestly, expect him to be a star

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C-Will's rookie year will be better than any year Fields has had. Book it!


I, honestly, expect him to be a star


You, TEA, and others were right about this kid. I was dead wrong for putting any mortal ahead of him. I've firmly jumped on your backs. I've never been this excited about a player who hasn't played one down of football.

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C-Will's rookie year will be better than any year Fields has had. Book it!


I, honestly, expect him to be a star


You, TEA, and others were right about this kid. I've firmly jumped on your backs. I've never been this excited about a player who hasn't played one down of football.

4 games in I expect to see:
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Brick wrote:
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C-Will's rookie year will be better than any year Fields has had. Book it!


I, honestly, expect him to be a star


You, TEA, and others were right about this kid. I've firmly jumped on your backs. I've never been this excited about a player who hasn't played one down of football.

4 games in I expect to see:
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I was wrong.


"Wait until the league adjusts to him."

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Brick wrote:
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Williams will have a higher amount of total touchdowns(rush + passing) and a passing td/int ratio better than 4/3 through 40 games. Both of those are true, I win. If either of those aren't true, you win.


That'll work. Now what's the stakes?

Loser admits they were wrong on something.


No go. I'm good. I'm tired of toothless bets. Find Vegan for those

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Brick admitting he was wrong would be the biggest win of all time. So no way LTG wins this.

A slight win for him would still be loss considering what his original statement happened to be.

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You don't play for stats. Unless yer Lions-era Matt Stafford or current era Kirk Cousins, then you post top 10 QBR season after season and cash $500 million in paychecks while watching the playoffs from your couch.

W's and playoff W's uber alles--everything else is just agent-generated propaganda to get their Kings of Mediocrity P-A-I-D

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Imagine turning down a bet when the only potential loss was admitting you were wrong.

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You don't play for stats. Unless yer Lions-era Matt Stafford or current era Kirk Cousins, then you post top 10 QBR season after season and cash $500 million in paychecks while watching the playoffs from your couch.

W's and playoff W's uber alles--everything else is just agent-generated propaganda to get their Kings of Mediocrity P-A-I-D

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I expect the Bears to be 10-7 next year and finish in second place

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You don't play for stats. Unless yer Lions-era Matt Stafford or current era Kirk Cousins, then you post top 10 QBR season after season and cash $500 million in paychecks while watching the playoffs from your couch.

W's and playoff W's uber alles--everything else is just agent-generated propaganda to get their Kings of Mediocrity P-A-I-D

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I expect the Bears to be 10-7 next year and finish in second place

You are going to be disappointed yet again.

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Hussra wrote:
You don't play for stats. Unless yer Lions-era Matt Stafford or current era Kirk Cousins, then you post top 10 QBR season after season and cash $500 million in paychecks while watching the playoffs from your couch.

W's and playoff W's uber alles--everything else is just agent-generated propaganda to get their Kings of Mediocrity P-A-I-D

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I expect the Bears to be 10-7 next year and finish in second place

You are going to be disappointed yet again.


Yeah, they're going to be 12-5 and finish in first place. Dolphin will have to cope with being wrong.

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