No because for the very same price they would have 'chosen' Fields. Which means Brick’s and your point was invalid.

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Wut?

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They chose to buy a product that they believed was priced right. They chose not to buy the product that they believed had an inflated price tag.

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Patrick Williams is actually a perfect example of "groupthink" and its flawed logic. Patrick Williams still has trade value and is a starting caliber player even if he never becomes Kawhi Leonard. You'd never know this if all you did was subscribe to the "thoughts" of Groupthink however.

Tyson Bagent is a,bum that was incessantly hyped by Groupthink because they hated Justin Fields.

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"WUT'S" not to understand? For the exact same Asking price Philly would have "chosen" Justin Fields over Pickett.

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Having trade value and being Kawhi is a little different.

Shitting on an undrafted DIII player, who played 4 games, doesn't make Justin Fields a franchise quarterback.

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Touting the undrafted QB as a starter and claiming that he passes the "eyetest" when he clearly does not is delusional however.

And if we were to "keep score" as to who has more "hits" than "misses" when it comes to Bulls vs Bears takes its not even close. Your over the top Bears love/meatball takes are the stuff of legend here. And I haven't even factored you in on the Bagent stuff. Yet!

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If I were betting on which quarterback would get significantly better, I would put all of my money on Tyson Bagent. Fields has only improved at the margins after a decade of elite facilities and coaching.

Again, this still doesn't elevate your thoughts. I mostly retired the bit a few years ago when it came to evaluating the Bears. I'll put my analysis since that time up against anything you've ever posted.

Continually tearing down Caleb Williams or Tyson Bagent doesn't make Fields great. Continually highlighting something that you believe someone got wrong in the past doesn't make your current views accurate. It just makes you look desperate.

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But constantly "tearing" down Justin Fields and proclaiming those that like him to be "Cult members" is indicative of your somehow being "objective"?

Seems like you're trying to have it both ways.

And even the Patrick Williams/Bagent stuff is way off. Patrick Williams clearly has big time talent. Bagent has very little talent.

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I guess we will wait and see. At this point, I'm not sure the haul would have been all that much better. Fields seems to be easy to get right now for a third round pick and no one wants him.

Make it even easier. When Fields is traded, what round pick will he go for?

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Very telling that when this cultist has to hype up Bustin Fields he uses an undrafted rookie free agent as an example of Fields' superiority. Why isn't he comparing Fields to peers with similar pedigrees, such as Love, Stroud, Minshew, Burrow, Mayfield, Goff, Cousins, Hurts, etc? We all know the answer. By comparing Fields to an undrafted division II QB, LTG just unwittingly made the best case that Fields is a below average QB at best and a definite bust.

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I also appreciate how LTG cited Graziano from ESPN, the same guy who told us what all non-cult members know to be true, and have known for some time:



Yep.

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Most people here have loved Fields for years. TM generally hates everything and he was initially a fan as well. I'm one of the few people here who wasn't on the Fields train and I got my teeth kicked in regularly for it. I'm also probably one of the only ones who spent money on his jersey. I saw the physical gifts. I wanted to be wrong about him. I hoped that I was, but I have eyes. I don't hate the kid. There's nothing personal in my analysis of him. I don't wish he fails with a new team. Obviously, I want C-Will/the Bears quarterback to be significantly better. If the Bears did what you believe/hope they'll do, I'll still wear his jersey and hope he wins Super Bowls.

I called the Fields followers a cult because you all have gone more than a few notches above player fandom. Being right about him is paramount. You all are willing to tear down the team and every player to achieve that goal.

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I'll add, everyone here wants Fields to be traded for the good dolphin return. That benefits the Bears. Settling for a 3rd-5th doesn't help the team as much.

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No one loved (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky this much and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky outperformed Fields in his first three years and the Bears actually won.

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No sir, he told me Fields is Top 5 and that includes my guy Love, I can quote it if you would like.

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Fields jerseys are 50% off at Dick's.They are now $65.

Fields has more talent than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. That's why. Pretty low bar but the reason that Bears fans love Fields is because "WE" know that he is the most talented QB that "WE" have seen in a Bears uniform in our lifetimes.

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Yet he didn't outplay (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and his team had a terrible record.

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Wrong, he blows. CJ Stroud levels above him and he's younger and more inexperienced.

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Vegan: Fields sucks. Fields sucks Bet he won't go for anything less than a 3rd round pick? Vegan: Crickets

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What he fetches in a trade is irrelevant. What is relevant is statistical performance. You don't want to engage in a convo about production because you know your whole world would come crashing down then.

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Way to go out on a limb there pal .

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If you take out the playing quarterback part of the equation, Fields is clearly better than Mitch.

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Groupthink isn't going to like this one bit

https://youtu.be/mDEIcxxFu7o?si=OQ7lJuhV0h0a-4IJ

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And in 1985 Steve Young also didn't "outplay" Jim McMahon either. Still didn't mean that he wasn't the "more talented" QB at the time.

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Do you think McMahon would have been as good with the same coach and talent? Not Zippy, but a lot of guys older than me believe McMahon was underrated.

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Who is Steve Young in your terrible analogy?

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As good as Steve Young? No way. Steve Young was simply more talented. But it should be noted that he too was trashed and called a bum when he was with Tampa Bay. It wasn't until he played with a better coach and players that he flourished. Tampa Bay was the worst franchise in the league at the time. Just god awful.

As far as McMahon went he was done in mostly by the injuries as opposed to playing for Ditka. He was one of the smartest QBs to ever play the game but he couldn't stay healthy. He never had a gun for an arm but it was average to above average before all the injuries (particularly to his shoulder) occurred. He also was done in by a lack of elite talent at the WR position. Willie Gault was a track star masquerading as a,Football player and Silky D was below average to average at best. Neither was anywhere close to what you'd consider special.

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