Could you imagine them praising Rick Hahn or Chris Getz for taking less in a trade to ship say, Mike Clevenger or Adam LaRoche to their preferred destinations?

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There was virtually no improvement from year 2 to year 3. There was one between year 1 and year 2 but he'd be out of the league if he continued to play as poorly as he did in year 1.

However, the running stats are far worse in year 3 than they were in year 2. He threw the ball more in year 3 which put some of his cumulative passing stats slightly higher but every average trended to about equal or worse than year 2.

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Given what we've seen these past few months from the cult, which has also infiltrated national (Greenberg) and local media (everyone except like three people), strong disagree on him being out of the league if he continued to play like that. He's on track to have a statue built for him, whether that's constructed with Bears money voluntarily or by Bears money illicitly after the cult invades Halas Hall and puts everyone to the sword.

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The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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The insanity started last offseason. MANY were predicting Fields would win MVP and set all kinds of records. Allegedly, the people in the building thought the hype was insane. Local and national media helped amplify the craziness.

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MANY were drinking that Kool-Aid including you and I. Maybe not quite MVP, but we expected big things from H1M and the offense in general. Then Green Bay whipped their ass for the umpteenth time in a row, and we realized this train might be coming off the rails again.

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This year's back of the draft is supposed to be weak due to a low amount of underclassmen entering. Poles traded out of the back half of the draft and when acquiring picks, opted for next year over this year's draft.

Dude is playing chess while the rest of the league plays checkers

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Dolphin has me on ignore. I mentioned this in one of these threads. That said, he should acquire a couple of 5th round picks. There may be a gem or two available.

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ok I am on board. FUCKING PUNTER in the draft with only 4 picks?

Fucking stupid.

Fire his ass

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I think Poles gets back in the 5th round today.

Relax, Ralphie

Is the Ryan Poles honeymoon over?

- Coaching hires looking rough
- Drastically overrated his offensive line
- Traded for an injury prone wide receiver
- Signed a running back who's invisible right now

Entering the start of this regular season, Poles is pleased with the makeup of Chicago's offensive line. “This is probably the best depth I've ever had,” Poles said. “I actually let one of the guys go on cutdowns and I was like, 'Man, you did an excellent job. I wish we could keep you here.Aug 29, 2024

This was the shit that they self inflicted on themselves with the decision to go on that crap Hard Knocks program. That sweetness shit Poles dished out on the Bear's offensive players was awful.

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From the outside looking in, this dude is a criminal. To know you are drafting Williams, a very young quarterback, and you totally gave a middle finger to your offensive line. Knowing this was an issue with your previous quarterback, stupid on stupid doesn’t end well.

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The offensive line was terrible when he took over, but he seems to have a WR fetish and has thrown tons of cap room and draft capital at that position while going cheap on the o line, that is now coming back to bite him in the ass.

You can see the obvious limitations with both tackles.

Wright does not have the feet to get to his spot, so he gives up the outside shoulder all day long, it was in all the scouting reports on him, maybe an average tackle prospect, but possible above average to good guard prospect. Jones has struggled from day one with inside power, but is getting beat to the outside as well this year. It seems both guys have digressed, makes you question the offensive line coaching and the strength and conditioning people.

Both guards are maddingly inconsistent, Davis seems to maybe try for half the game and Jenkins gets sloppy with his technique often, both guys are likely gone next year.

Center has been a train wreck since Poles took over and it is odd that he has not drafted a center in the first four rounds despite having repeated opportunities. The team has not had a replacement level guy at that spot for several years, that is GM malpractice.

So you maybe have one or two guys that might start for another team and the rest are backups or marginal roster guys elsewhere.

I just said that in a lot less fucking words.

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Did not even see your post?

Oh, gave a middle finger to the offensive line? Solid football thought my friend, please share more of your football acumen, love the deep football thoughts from the boards football Bigfoots.

Congrats on not writing a novel for once.

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The trickle down effect from over prioritizing quarterback is brutal. The Bears traded away Christian Darrisaw and Garrett Wilson/Chris Olave for the right to bang their heads against the wall for three years hoping Justin Fields would learn how to play quarterback. Imagine the difference those two players would make. Instead you have absolutely nothing, big fat zero.

The Bears simply will not improve until somebody breaks this cycle. Build the team and the quarterback success will happen naturally, instead they keep desperately searching for Him and spending so much resources in the process that nobody (let alone the bums they keep drafting) could possibly make it work with the roster provided.

I also do not believe Ryan Poles necessarily has the kind of full roster control people think he does. I sense that he was given a mandate to build a Chiefs-like offense in Chicago because it’s something people haven’t seen before.

Then came along the perfect DEI quarterback the same the year the NFL team with the most DEI crazed ownership had first overall. George McCaskey never would’ve let them do anything with that pick except select Williams. Alternatives were not to be considered.

What team in the NFL has used this approach and won?

You gotta get the QB figured out.

Look at the teams with recent success and what do they have in common?

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Philly won with Foles, Rams won with Stafford and Tampa Bay won with Brady. The last three non-Chiefs teams to win the Super Bowl all won it with veteran quarterbacks that came in via trade or free agency. The next best team in the NFL in that time to not win it all has been doing it with Jimmy Garoppolo and Mr. Irrelevant.

I can’t say this enough, the Bears are not even close to being the Chiefs no matter who they have behind center. The coaching, roster, organizational strength is not there…frankly it’s not even close.

SI has the Bears picking 4th next year

https://www.si.com/nfl/2025-nfl-mock-dr ... rojections

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Caller Bob, is this possible?

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Philly with Foles I will give you. But the others have figured out the QB position. It does not have to be a Chiefs situation. But if you are going to have success you have to figure out the most important position on the field.

I am not saying they are close to being the Chiefs. But they have to figure out the QB position. The Bears have never been able to do that and I am not going to fault them for taking a big swing with the #1 pick.

Now where they have to be faulted is for ignoring the OL in the meantime. That is the biggest issue and the main reason why Poles should be given a short leash on this build.

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OK but you don’t have to figure out the quarterback position before you figure out everything else. You can piece together a coaching staff that can in elevenish games no matter who is at QB and build a nice offensive line (it takes years) then plug in the quarterback. Its not guaranteed, but then again until you have Taylor Swift coming to your games nothing in the league is.

Simone Biles ain’t shit apparently.

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Proper thesis is build a team first and a QB will show up. That's happened lots.

I think what we’re learning right now is that coaching matters. Obviously ignoring the O-line hurts too.. but we’ve had bad coaching since Trestman and it kills so much of the team.


And Poles has to eat this one -he could have rightly launched Eberflus at the end of the Fields campaign, a campaign which proved he couldn’t develop a QB. But.. he hitched his wagon to him and looked at all these other OC’s this past offseason and settled for Waldron when the world was their oyster.


So far we know a few things about Poles -he can’t identify coaching talent, can’t seem to identify O-line talent, and he’s willing to over pay for things when he doesn’t need to. None of those things are assets to being a successful GM

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Yeah I am definitely leaning in that direction as well. They did play hard for Flus last year and I understand kind of why they gave him another year. But it seems more and more clear they should have started with a clean slate of coaches and QB. Now if things continue to go bad they will have to launch Flus at end of year and Williams will have to start over with another staff and that will not be good for his development. And can we trust Poles to make a good hire this time around?

Frustrating.

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