1967: Bubba Smith, DE, Michigan State – Baltimore Colts
1968: Ron Yary, OT, USC – Minnesota Vikings
1969: O.J. Simpson, RB, USC – Buffalo Bills
1970: Terry Bradshaw, QB, Louisiana Tech – Pittsburgh Steelers
1971: Jim Plunkett, QB, Stanford – New England Patriots
1972: Walt Patulski, DE, Notre Dame – Buffalo Bills
1973: John Matuszak, DE, Tampa – Houston Oilers
1974: Ed "Too Tall" Jones, DE, Tennessee State – Dallas Cowboys
1975: Steve Bartkowski, QB, California – Atlanta Falcons
1976: Lee Roy Selmon, DE, Oklahoma – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1977: Ricky Bell, RB, USC – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1978: Earl Campbell, RB, Texas – Houston Oilers
1979: Tom Cousineau, LB, Ohio State – Buffalo Bills
1980: Billy Sims, RB, Oklahoma – Detroit Lions
1981: George Rogers, RB, South Carolina – New Orleans Saints
1982: Kenneth Sims, DT, Texas – New England Patriots
1983: John Elway, QB, Stanford – Baltimore Colts (later traded to the Denver Broncos)
1984: Irving Fryar, WR, Nebraska – New England Patriots
1985: Bruce Smith, DE, Virginia Tech – Buffalo Bills
1986: Bo Jackson, RB, Auburn – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1987: Vinny Testaverde, QB, Miami (FL) – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1988: Aundray Bruce, LB, Auburn – Atlanta Falcons
1989: Troy Aikman, QB, UCLA – Dallas Cowboys
1990: Jeff George, QB, Illinois – Indianapolis Colts
1991: Russell Maryland, DT, Miami (FL) – Dallas Cowboys
1992: Steve Emtman, DT, Washington – Indianapolis Colts
1993: Drew Bledsoe, QB, Washington State – New England Patriots
1994: Dan Wilkinson, DT, Ohio State – Cincinnati Bengals
1995: Ki-Jana Carter, RB, Penn State – Cincinnati Bengals
1996: Keyshawn Johnson, WR, USC – New York Jets
1997: Orlando Pace, OT, Ohio State – St. Louis Rams
1998: Peyton Manning, QB, Tennessee – Indianapolis Colts
1999: Tim Couch, QB, Kentucky – Cleveland Browns
2000: Courtney Brown, DE, Penn State – Cleveland Browns
2001: Michael Vick, QB, Virginia Tech – Atlanta Falcons
2002: David Carr, QB, Fresno State – Houston Texans
2003: Carson Palmer, QB, USC – Cincinnati Bengals
2004: Eli Manning, QB, Ole Miss – San Diego Chargers (later traded to the New York Giants)
2005: Alex Smith, QB, Utah – San Francisco 49ers
2006: Mario Williams, DE, NC State – Houston Texans
2007: JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU – Oakland Raiders
2008: Jake Long, OT, Michigan – Miami Dolphins
2009: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia – Detroit Lions
2010: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma – St. Louis Rams
2011: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn – Carolina Panthers
2012: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford – Indianapolis Colts
2013: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan – Kansas City Chiefs
2014: Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina – Houston Texans
2015: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State – Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2016: Jared Goff, QB, California – Los Angeles Rams
2017: Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M – Cleveland Browns
2018: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma – Cleveland Browns
2019: Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma – Arizona Cardinals
2020: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU – Cincinnati Bengals
2021: Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson – Jacksonville Jaguars
2022: Travon Walker, DE, – Jacksonville Jaguars
2023: Bryce Young, QB, – Carolina Panthers
2024:

Not a lot of quarterbacks that were complete busts. Most of the players on this list had great or productive careers. Someone can fact check me, but I counted 28 Super Bowl rings and 7 Super Bowl appearances by players that didn't win a ring.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Brady fucks your bell curve hard dude.

_________________
"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

He's the great outlier.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

I think Carr and Couch are the only legit busts. Winston is still better than some starters today despite being a backup.

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Your point though is solid. There's some pretty solid overall 1 busts, like Couch or Leaf, but overall #1 qb have a solid record.
None of that matters though. What happened in the past. I generally dismiss trends wrt stuff like that.

_________________
"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

David Carr, Alex Smith, Sam Bradford, Jameis Winston, Baker Mayfield, Bryce Young all busts in the last 25 years..that's quite a few

There's a wide range of bust in there.

_________________
"Play until it hurts, then play until it hurts to not play."
http://soundcloud.com/darkside124 HOF 2013, MM Champion 2014

JaMarcus is only a bust by the complete idiocy of the Raiders, but he has to be the worst. He should’ve never even been drafted. Rohan Davey and Matt Mauck were better prospects.

Baker Mayfield just took his team team to the playoffs and advanced.

_________________

I missed him and Bradford.

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

They also gave him a $115M contract. Alex Smith was a solid pro that made a Pro Bowl. I thought Bradford's problem was an injury. The jury is still out on Young, but it's not promising.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

But the pick is a bust because he was awful for the Browns. Anybody could have signed Baker Mayfield this offseason

He wasn't awful for the Browns. He was a productive version of Zach Wilson. MANY of his teammates hated him and the Browns stupidly traded for Watson.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

He wasn't great. His numbers were Fields like in Cleveland

No, he led a team that had won like 1 game in 2 years to a playoff victory. He gutted out his final year there with a shoulder injury and still threw for 3k yards.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... yfBa00.htm

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

There are tiers to those 1/1 QBs.

Sometimes a QB goes first because they’re considered the best player at the position (e.g., Goff). Other times they’re taken 1/1 because they’re no doubters (e.g., Luck). The latter are rarely busts.

_________________

Fields is more talented than Luck and Manning combined.

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Winston is the only one of the latter that recently be considered a bust. He was really productive but couldn't stop throwing as many interceptions as touchdowns.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Shade thrown at Tracey Lawrence and JaMarcus Russell, not even worthy of a bold font.


Last 25 years

1/1 QB selections are 0-3 in Super Bowl appearances for the teams that drafted them.

0 Super Bowls won for the drafting team among 18 QB's taken 1/1 overall in last 25 years.

3 one-and-done SB appearances on the wrong side - Burrow/Bengals, Goff/Rams, Cam/Panthers

Alex Smith may not have won a ring as a starting QB, but he is not a bust by any means.
7 playoff starts with 2 different teams, 199 passing TDs, and 35,000 yards in his career. The Bears all time leading passer has 23K yards and 154 TDs

Bryce Young has played a grand total of one NFL season. Still has time before you can call him a bust, though he is not off to a good start.

viewtopic.php?f=181&t=130389

_________________

Jameis Winston nearly threw for more passing yards and touchdowns in one season than Fields has for his entire career. He's considered a bust by MANY because he couldn't cut back on the interceptions.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

18 times in the last 25 years NFL teams and their fans came out of draft day after selecting a QB 1/1 thinking We're goin' to the Super Bowl! and not one of those teams who drafted a QB 1st overall has won a Super Bowl with that QB.

3 teams have had the joy of losing a Super Bowl with their 1/1 QB.


Bryce Young ever gets anywhere near the playoffs or wins a Super Bowl it will be with a team not owned by David Tepper.

Burrow might still get it done; but he could also end up retiring early due to his chronic injury issues, like Luck. Or the Bengals make the Super Bowl with Burrow injured on the sidelines while Jake Browning QB-cucks his way to a Super Bowl, a la Earl Morrall and Bob Griese.

So what QB are you drafting this year?

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Couch and Russell are really the only true bust to me. I think Bradford and his shoulder got him but I don’t consider any others a bust

_________________
2018
#ExtendLafleur
10 More Wins

Hussra + NME + Vegan = Match

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Do you have a real answer?

It's fine that you doubt Williams but who is a better option than him?

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

I wouldn't draft any of em with 1st overall. Fine to take most any of 'em further down the board. Six of one, half-dozen of another, or whatever folksy saying Phil Longo used to describe this QB class.

Almost Everyone: Deepest QB class in recent memory.
Hussra: They all suck.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You don't consider Winston a bust?