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Which only illustrates the "suburbanness" of your existence. I make no apologies for not knowing the location of a SUBURBAN TRUCK STOP. And only an idiot would think that I should.
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Sure, why not…


I’ll bet you that Billy Donovan goes into the hall of fame as a coach.


Ok he won't. Which means you'll owe again. However by the time it comes time to collect I'm sure that this site will have bit the dust.

Collection is your world, counselor. Throw out some dates and I’ll settle up.


When do you have him to go into the Hall Of Fame?

Oh, I thought you were referencing the Desanto bet.

Donovan won’t go in for a couple decades. Maybe more if he goes back to college after the bulls shitcan him.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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Sure, why not…


I’ll bet you that Billy Donovan goes into the hall of fame as a coach.


Ok he won't. Which means you'll owe again. However by the time it comes time to collect I'm sure that this site will have bit the dust.

Collection is your world, counselor. Throw out some dates and I’ll settle up.


When do you have him to go into the Hall Of Fame?

Oh, I thought you were referencing the Desanto bet.

Donovan won’t go in for a couple decades. Maybe more if he goes back to college after the bulls shitcan him.

2 college championships aren't enough to get him in the Hall of Fame. Got to do more than that. And he definitely isn't getting in off of his NBA resume. Meanwhile Larussa is already in and had a winning record with the Sox. Donovan with the Bulls doesn't.

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Oh.

Well now we know why LTG goes there for two weeks every summer. He bounces, so to speak, while he is there too.

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No shit. I just said you're the expert! Never been married, never been in a long term relationship as far as we know, no children of your own, you travel with 200 friends to Vegas and Arkansas more than once a year, fully funded state pension....
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Sure, why not…


I’ll bet you that Billy Donovan goes into the hall of fame as a coach.


Ok he won't. Which means you'll owe again. However by the time it comes time to collect I'm sure that this site will have bit the dust.

Collection is your world, counselor. Throw out some dates and I’ll settle up.


When do you have him to go into the Hall Of Fame?

Oh, I thought you were referencing the Desanto bet.

Donovan won’t go in for a couple decades. Maybe more if he goes back to college after the bulls shitcan him.

2 college championships aren't enough to get him in the Hall of Fame. Got to do more than that. And he definitely isn't getting in off of his NBA resume. Meanwhile Larussa is already in and had a winning record with the Sox. Donovan with the Bulls doesn't.

Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.

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Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.


They actually don't "Final Four Appearance" :lol: :lol: :lol:
He would have to accomplish something meaningful as an NBA coach. Thus far he hasn't.

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Tony Larussa > Pedro Grifol

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Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.


They actually don't "Final Four Appearance" :lol: :lol: :lol:
He would have to accomplish something meaningful as an NBA coach. Thus far he hasn't.

Every coach with multiple NCAA titles is in the HOF. He’ll get there.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.


They actually don't "Final Four Appearance" :lol: :lol: :lol:
He would have to accomplish something meaningful as an NBA coach. Thus far he hasn't.

Every coach with multiple NCAA titles is in the HOF. He’ll get there.


Nah he won't. And if he does this board won't be around whenever it happens

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.


They actually don't "Final Four Appearance" :lol: :lol: :lol:
He would have to accomplish something meaningful as an NBA coach. Thus far he hasn't.

Every coach with multiple NCAA titles is in the HOF. He’ll get there.


Nah he won't. And if he does this board won't be around whenever it happens

I’d almost agree with the second sentence but guys like Self and Pitino got in while active, so there’s a fighting chance in the next decade.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.


They actually don't "Final Four Appearance" :lol: :lol: :lol:
He would have to accomplish something meaningful as an NBA coach. Thus far he hasn't.

Every coach with multiple NCAA titles is in the HOF. He’ll get there.


Nah he won't. And if he does this board won't be around whenever it happens

I’d almost agree with the second sentence but guys like Self and Pitino got in while active, so there’s a fighting chance in the next decade.


They have far more wins as college coaches than he has. And his work as an NBA coach will definitely take some of the bloom off of that rose as well. And there are NBA coaches (,Rudy T comes to mind) with multiple Championships that didn't make it into the NBA Hall Of Fame) And NBA rings trump college rings any day of the week.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.


They actually don't "Final Four Appearance" :lol: :lol: :lol:
He would have to accomplish something meaningful as an NBA coach. Thus far he hasn't.

Every coach with multiple NCAA titles is in the HOF. He’ll get there.


Nah he won't. And if he does this board won't be around whenever it happens

I’d almost agree with the second sentence but guys like Self and Pitino got in while active, so there’s a fighting chance in the next decade.


They have far more wins as college coaches than he has. And his work as an NBA coach will definitely take some of the bloom off of that rose as well. And there are NBA coaches (,Rudy T comes to mind) with multiple Championships that didn't make it into the NBA Hall Of Fame) And NBA rings trump college rings any day of the week.

It’s the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame.

And Rudy T is in. Everybody gets in.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.
Every coach with multiple NCAA titles is in the HOF. He’ll get there.


Nah he won't. And if he does this board won't be around whenever it happens

I’d almost agree with the second sentence but guys like Self and Pitino got in while active, so there’s a fighting chance in the next decade.


They have far more wins as college coaches than he has. And his work as an NBA coach will definitely take some of the bloom off of that rose as well. And there are NBA coaches (,Rudy T comes to mind) with multiple Championships that didn't make it into the NBA Hall Of Fame) And NBA rings trump college rings any day of the week.

It’s the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame.

And Rudy T is in. Everybody gets in.
Not Patrick Williams.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Four final fours. Another as a player. Back to back.

Everybody gets into the basket all hof.
Every coach with multiple NCAA titles is in the HOF. He’ll get there.


Nah he won't. And if he does this board won't be around whenever it happens

I’d almost agree with the second sentence but guys like Self and Pitino got in while active, so there’s a fighting chance in the next decade.


They have far more wins as college coaches than he has. And his work as an NBA coach will definitely take some of the bloom off of that rose as well. And there are NBA coaches (,Rudy T comes to mind) with multiple Championships that didn't make it into the NBA Hall Of Fame) And NBA rings trump college rings any day of the week.

It’s the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame.

And Rudy T is in. Everybody gets in.
Not Patrick Williams.


And not Billy D either.

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It’s the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame.

And Rudy T is in. Everybody gets in.

I know it's the Basketball Hall Of Fame. And not NBA or else It wouldn't be a conversation right now.
They actually "ALL" don't get in because if they did, then Mark Aguirre would be in. Who deserves to be there a helluva lot more than does Billy Donovan

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It’s the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame.

And Rudy T is in. Everybody gets in.

I know it's the Basketball Hall Of Fame. And not NBA or else It wouldn't be a conversation right now.
They actually "ALL" don't get in because if they did, then Mark Aguirre would be in. Who deserves to be there a helluva lot more than does Billy Donovan

But again, basketball hall of fame. Aguirre was a better player. The whole of his basketball career was lesser than Donovan’s.

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It’s the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame.

And Rudy T is in. Everybody gets in.

I know it's the Basketball Hall Of Fame. And not NBA or else It wouldn't be a conversation right now.
They actually "ALL" don't get in because if they did, then Mark Aguirre would be in. Who deserves to be there a helluva lot more than does Billy Donovan

But again, basketball hall of fame. Aguirre was a better player. The whole of his basketball career was lesser than Donovan’s.


Nah. NBA accolades still Trump collegiate and Aguirre has 2 rings and was far more decorated as a player. Both pro and college. And if Donovan was going to get in based on his college coaching accolades alone then he'd already be in. Just as Jay Wright happens to be. Fact of the matter is that coaching in the NBA has lessened him as a coach in the eyes of MANY. And as far as his being an NBA coach, he sucks.

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And here is the other part. Larussa's already in. Donovan isn't. I was told repeatedly by MANY that Larussa was the biggest problem and when they get rid of him all would be right with the world. Well things have been disastrously worse since he was let go. Which means he was hardly the biggest problem. Nowhere near in fact.

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And here is the other part. Larussa's already in. Donovan isn't. I was told repeatedly by MANY that Larussa was the biggest problem and when they get rid of him all would be right with the world. Well things have been disastrously worse since he was let go. Which means he was hardly the biggest problem. Nowhere near in fact.
LaRussa was bad. Kenny was bad. Hahn was bad.

The good thing about being a sports fan is the performance review is done for you. Not a ton of ambiguity.

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And here is the other part. Larussa's already in. Donovan isn't. I was told repeatedly by MANY that Larussa was the biggest problem and when they get rid of him all would be right with the world. Well things have been disastrously worse since he was let go. Which means he was hardly the biggest problem. Nowhere near in fact.
LaRussa was bad. Kenny was bad. Hahn was bad.

The good thing about being a sports fan is the performance review is done for you. Not a ton of ambiguity.

Ok let's "review" the collective performances then.

Larussa had a winning record and got the team to the playoffs even with a ton of injuries. That's not "bad". Even in year 2 they were merely mediocre. Kenny won a World Series and had a winning record until Genius Rick Hahn came aboard and made them the joke they are today.

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It’s the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame.

And Rudy T is in. Everybody gets in.

I know it's the Basketball Hall Of Fame. And not NBA or else It wouldn't be a conversation right now.
They actually "ALL" don't get in because if they did, then Mark Aguirre would be in. Who deserves to be there a helluva lot more than does Billy Donovan

But again, basketball hall of fame. Aguirre was a better player. The whole of his basketball career was lesser than Donovan’s.


Nah. NBA accolades still Trump collegiate and Aguirre has 2 rings and was far more decorated as a player. Both pro and college. And if Donovan was going to get in based on his college coaching accolades alone then he'd already be in. Just as Jay Wright happens to be. Fact of the matter is that coaching in the NBA has lessened him as a coach in the eyes of MANY. And as far as his being an NBA coach, he sucks.



A Hall of Fame with Billy Donovan in it and not Mark Aguirre is pretty worthless. In fact, it's utterly ridiculous.

You could never convince me that Scottie Pippen was better than Aguirre either.

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It’s the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame.

And Rudy T is in. Everybody gets in.

I know it's the Basketball Hall Of Fame. And not NBA or else It wouldn't be a conversation right now.
They actually "ALL" don't get in because if they did, then Mark Aguirre would be in. Who deserves to be there a helluva lot more than does Billy Donovan

But again, basketball hall of fame. Aguirre was a better player. The whole of his basketball career was lesser than Donovan’s.


Nah. NBA accolades still Trump collegiate and Aguirre has 2 rings and was far more decorated as a player. Both pro and college. And if Donovan was going to get in based on his college coaching accolades alone then he'd already be in. Just as Jay Wright happens to be. Fact of the matter is that coaching in the NBA has lessened him as a coach in the eyes of MANY. And as far as his being an NBA coach, he sucks.



A Hall of Fame with Billy Donovan in it and not Mark Aguirre is pretty worthless. In fact, it's utterly ridiculous.

You could never convince me that Scottie Pippen was better than Aguirre either.


Me either. Scottie Pippen couldn't touch Mark Aguirre.

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Wasn't all that ails the Sox supposed to be cured simply by firing La Russa and Kenny Williams though? Just Asking A Question

You forgot Rick Hahn.


I actually didn't. He was merely collateral damage in whatever ailed the team. Kenny and TLR were always the main targets of a certain poster.

Who?


He goes simply :lol: :lol: :lol: by the name of "Simple"


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He will, if Kenny isnt still calling the shots.


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Not really, but thats fine if you don't understand it. If you can't see that Kenny almost always traded away young guys for a veteran piece, and now Hahn is acquiring young talent then I can't help you.

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Don't let me get in the way of your blind optimism. Cheerlead as much as you want. But you might want to drop the "you don't understand it" angle. I understand perfectly what they are doing. I'm just not applauding Hahn before he's done any real work. The rest of you are.

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Given everything the Sox have done over the last ~8 months, Hahn deserves kudos. If the Sox continue to suck for the next 4-5 years, he will deserve and likely get a lot of negative press.

There is clearly a different philosophy in the way of doing things now with the Sox front office. Its basically the complete opposite of what Kenny Williams did for the better part of 11 years. Given that and what Kenny himself has publically said, it leads me to believe that Hahn was NOT 100% in charge of the roster regardless of what his title was.

With what you have said in this thread, its pretty clear that you either do not understand that, or you are willfully ignoring things which would make BRick's comments about creating your own agenda correct.

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Cubs($67M 7th) & White Sox($20M 24th) so far have nearly identical team, starter & reliever ERAs.


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vitoscotti wrote:
Cubs($67M 7th) & White Sox($20M 24th) so far have nearly identical team, starter & reliever ERAs.


Yeah but the Cubs only have one parody song, and thanks to CB and Juiced, the Sox have two.


And there are more coming!


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denisdman wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
Cubs($67M 7th) & White Sox($20M 24th) so far have nearly identical team, starter & reliever ERAs.


Yeah but the Cubs only have one parody song, and thanks to CB and Juiced, the Sox have two.


And there are more coming!


I look forward to it. My friends liked yours best. But quality work.

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