Do you regret not hitting in the face with a shovel?

I disliked Bernstein from the very beginning. I despised how he read "THE SCORE" at the end of every report.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

No.

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He was a loveable pud then though.

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Elections have consequences.

What Dan doesn't understand or runs far away from is that people know his history. When I listened as a kid with my dad, it was attempted shock jock at times. We all remember Wildebeest, I remember Chris Henry and when he was early on CTE and people playing football as "entertainment" for basically people smarter. Still shows shades of it crying about nepotism while pushing his own kids.

It's who he is. His history shows a disconnected man who pushes (now) what he's read or supposed to believe.

i'm sorry you haven't evolved

Ah, maybe he has. I haven't questioned that.

The problem is when that person wants to preach and belittle. Think Dan accepts evolution out of others?

Depends on which way they evolve.

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Elections have consequences.

Dan lives in an extremely far left world. It's very comfortable there because you can just dismiss anyone who has a different opinion than you of being a horrible person and move on. Lawrence also lives in that world.

It bears (arf) repeating that Dan is not liberal.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Not sure about that. On his show when he turns to politics, he appears to be very supportive of what most people would consider very far left ideals.

listen to his absolute disdain for any working class person and his issues

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

He's extremely judgmental, part of his liberal bubble.

You realize that the party that you proudly support despises the white working class, right?

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Dan is perhaps financially conservative but his gun control and gay support puts him squarely left of center.

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Elections have consequences.

If you hear some of his comments regarding Mayor Johnson, the only thing he doesn't want to spend more money on is a Bears stadium. He's clearly against billionaires getting tax breaks from the city, which is not unreasonable, but that money will just go into more government programs.

Yes.

This isn't about me.

There is another board where two people are writing about whether good dolphin is liberal.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I'm just pointing out that Democrats, who often identify as liberals, have nothing but disdain for a significant portion of the American working class.

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Only in words and action. Subjectively, they love them, usually around election day.

The Democrats are an alliance of the professional-managerial class and the lumpenproletariat. Every time you hear about a homeless man on a subway train raving that Jews from outer space are making him shit his pants and someone says "this is fine, this is good, go back to Iowa if you can't handle it," you're witnessing the Democratic coalition in action.

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Alright then.

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Elections have consequences.

On a local level, the best analogy of Dan Bernstein's fall from relevancy is Howard Stern.

It is all about wanting to be accepted, liked, Hollywood Howey, Dan with the far left elite's, be part of an insufferable group.

During B&B Dan was a much bigger a-hole, his schtick of calling every caller stupid, dumb, goober. But what made him was his quick whit and unpredictability to go after say D-Rose being injured, etc. Also he could leave you crying laughing talking about so many issues.

I used to be a huge Stern guy, have not listened to him in over probably 15 years. Just zero interest. With Dan, I like following him on twitter now during Bears game and sometimes will listen, but very rarely.

I could care less about him being far left or him saying boobs, Cheryl Scott, etc. The preachiness and everything serious and no fun Dan is the turn off.

that isn't a revelation. They are also pro abortion while I am not. I cannot name a republican offering on the national level that was a better choice during my voting lifetime. It's a binary. I don't get to create a candidate who perfectly represents me.

I'd hardly say I proudly support the Dems. I'll work for individual candidates in whom I believe or if I have a stake. I'm far more cynical about politics and politicians now than I was even 10 years ago. I used to hold some unelected government position holders like the SC in higher esteem (and I think they were more worthy of it 25+ years ago).

At the same time, I still feel politics presents an opportunity to do good and make change so I will never entirely disengage. As unbelieving as I may be, I do still believe that there are some beacons out there. I may be able to help some in their nascent stage, as I age. I've even come to like some of the Dem Socialists in Chicago. The overwhelming majority of them are drips who are along for the ride. There are a couple who I think are actually talented.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

This reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who grew up in a Lutheran family but insisted that her parents exposed her to all world religions and allowed her to make her own choice... which *BIG SHOCK* just happened to be Lutheranism.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

that may be. My dad really liked Clinton and I was so young at the time that, of course, I liked Clinton. It was easy to support him because Chicago was so embedded in his administration that it opened up opportunities locally. That didn't age well.

I was never going to vote for GW. You could see where his presidency was going to go well before he was ever elected.

Obama, once he won the primary, was kind of like Clinton. Voting for him was a civic duty.

Then there was Trump. I'm not voting for him, ever. Say "orange man, bad" if you want. I'm not giving him my support.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

This is it. The preachiness is the worst part of it. The Cheryl Scott stuff was particularly nasty and disgusting, how he has the gall to lecture anyone on any moral issue after that is beyond me. There's a shamelessness to him that I just cannot believe. However, he is the only guy on the station that is a real Bears fan so I still do pay attention to him on that subject. Everything else he comments on rings entirely hollow.

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In my lifetime there have been reasonable GOP candidates that I wouldn't vote for because I have different priorities. Those people broadly don't exist in the GOP anymore. The slide from GHW Bush to Trump has been quite the ride.

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I'm not trying to convince you to vote for Trump. I know I couldn't anyway.

And I completely understand why someone would not want to vote for Trump. Up until now I haven't myself. In 2016, as much as I loathed Hillary Clinton, Trump was just too much of a wildcard. I had no idea what he might do. He seemed almost unhinged. We had never seen a presidential candidate act that way before. But he had a four year term in which he governed in a mostly normal manner, in spite of facing UNPRECEDENTED #RESISTANCE.

Even then, I still didn't want to vote for him. Tradition and manners are fairly high values for me and I felt like casting a vote for him would be lowering myself. In Illinois my vote wasn't going to be significant as the Democrat was going to win the state regardless so I had the luxury of sitting it out. And at the time I thought Biden was a centrist compromise. I didn't not realize he was COMPLETELY demented and would be used as a frontman for the wackiest whims of the Far Left.

So now I have to ask, putting aside all the noise, how is it that the values being put forth by whoever is in control of the presidency now align with your own more than Donald Trump's do?

Do you like abortion in the tenth month? Do you like an open border? Do you like the destruction of small business? Do you like the increasing wealth gap? Do you like the shrinking Middle Class? Do you like support for Iran? Do you like the use of the court system to prosecute political opponents? Do you like the America where you grew up?

I don't want to vote for Donald Trump either, but I can't support what is being done to the country by whoever is behind the mentally compromised Joe Biden.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

I harbor similar questions but, and maybe it is just my imagination, feel Trump's is trying to connect himself in some way to Nazi Germany (i.e. 'Unified Reich' and wearing black gloves and trenchcoat on January 6) which, maybe because my grandparents and mother fled Nazi Germany to avoid persecution, I find unsettling.

Given all this I do wonder if voting for RFK Jr and his worm-eaten brain makes any sort of sense?

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"I honestly don't see a good bet on the board here."

Honestly, who is the last Democratic candidate for president you voted for?

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