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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:27 am 
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Actually Antioch, you are actually the only person I have seen bring this up anywhere.

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Actually Antioch, you are actually the only person I have seen bring this up anywhere.
The 2023 Masters was a good showing for LIV. But outside of that the LIV guys have hardly made any noise when they are able to play a PGA event. Only Bryson and Brooks have had any success, and for the most part, they both stayed out of the off course fracas and just kept to playing golf.

Scottie is making this look so easy when we all know its not. We've seen guys like Speith, Rory, Tiger, DJ etc on cruise control getting top tens and wins galore, only to completely fall off the map at times. Scottie's heater could run out at any time, but when he wins it seems to be in such dominant fashion that I don't think you can really call for any kind of * with those tournaments.

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He won Arnold’s place, Sawgrass, The Masters, The Heritage and The Memorial. Most would call that a great career, he did it in a couple of months.

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It’s not intended as a knock on Scheffler, more a question about the quality of competition in the split tour era.

I think there were two primary arguments about LIV as it relates to the actual play: 1) the tournaments aren’t as competitive because there are no cuts / they’re only 3 days and 2) competition isn’t as intense given the guaranteed prize money could reduce some of the motivation for these guys.

If either is true, then the LIV guys would eventually be lesser golfers than they were on the Tour. Cam Smith’s career trajectory changes entirely. Joaquin Niemann won’t even play in the US Open this year. Rahm is a shell of himself.

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Actually Antioch, you are actually the only person I have seen bring this up anywhere.
The 2023 Masters was a good showing for LIV. But outside of that the LIV guys have hardly made any noise when they are able to play a PGA event. Only Bryson and Brooks have had any success, and for the most part, they both stayed out of the off course fracas and just kept to playing golf.

A LIV guy did pretty good at the 2023 PGA Championship.

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Actually Antioch, you are actually the only person I have seen bring this up anywhere.
The 2023 Masters was a good showing for LIV. But outside of that the LIV guys have hardly made any noise when they are able to play a PGA event. Only Bryson and Brooks have had any success, and for the most part, they both stayed out of the off course fracas and just kept to playing golf.

A LIV guy did pretty good at the 2023 PGA Championship.
He did.

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I just read that Scottie has only lost to 9 players total in his last 8 tournaments. :lol:

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Scottie's heater could run out at any time, but when he wins it seems to be in such dominant fashion that I don't think you can really call for any kind of * with those tournaments.


I don't see any way you can call these wins * worthy. He has been dominating no matter who is in the field.

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Rahm really seems to be in idgaf mode after that contract doesnt he ?

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Rahm really seems to be in idgaf mode after that contract doesnt he ?

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Rahm really seems to be in idgaf mode after that contract doesnt he ?

Absolutely.

I am of the belief that he was arrogant enough to think when he went, it would all change. That ain’t happened and is miserable as fuck but hey he has $600M

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Rahm really seems to be in idgaf mode after that contract doesnt he ?

Absolutely.
Just WD from the US Open

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Problem with his piggy toe. Hate to see it.

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A new amendment will allow PGA TOUR players a 15-minute window to correct an error on their scorecard, even if they have left the defined scoring area.

The change, announced in a memo sent to TOUR members Tuesday morning, aims to minimize penalties or disqualifications related to scorecard errors. The PGA TOUR worked with the USGA, R&A and DP World Tour to amend the definition of “when a scorecard is returned.”

In general, all players will now have a 15-minute period within which they’ll have the ability to correct an error that previously may have resulted in a penalty or disqualification. It includes:


-If a scorecard is validated in the scoring system and the player has left the scoring area. The player may return to correct an error within 15 minutes of its validation.
-If a player has left the scoring area and an error is identified before the scorecard is validated in the scoring system. The player may return to correct the error within 15 minutes of the error being identified by the scoring official.
-If a player is in the scoring area when the 15 minutes expires, their scorecard is considered “returned” when they leave the scoring area.

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seems like odd timing for this, what is leading this to be done now?

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seems like odd timing for this, what is leading this to be done now?

Jordan Spieth, Riviera earlier this year.

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what is leading this to be done now?
Common sense.

Back in the day it was practical because it kept everybody honest for the most part. Now you can pull up online within seconds and see exactly how far a ball went, spin rate, clubhead speed, etc, and of course, the player's score on the hole. Nobody is purposely fudging a Tour scorecard in this day and age.

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what is leading this to be done now?
Common sense.

Back in the day it was practical because it kept everybody honest for the most part. Now you can pull up online within seconds and see exactly how far a ball went, spin rate, clubhead speed, etc, and of course, the player's score on the hole. Nobody is purposely fudging a Tour scorecard in this day and age.

But the cause was a “STAR” was pissed and stormed out of the scoring area.

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I agree it is needed and common sense. Just seemed like odd timing. Middle of the year a few days after one of their biggest events.

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I agree it is needed and common sense. Just seemed like odd timing. Middle of the year a few days after one of their biggest events.

Again, when shit happens to stars it gets conversation moving. You have to get multiple agencies to agree.

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But the cause was a “STAR” was pissed and stormed out of the scoring area.
Be that as it may, it didn't change the score or the outcome whatsoever.

This is a common sense move with the technology we have today. A short grace period is more than fair because these are always simple math errors.

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Andrew Putman had this to say. He's right. Antiquated rule..
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Such a dumb rule. In what other sport do players keep their scores?! We all have walking scorers with every group and every shot is calculated to the yard. Cmonnn people.

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Andrew Putman had this to say. He's right. Antiquated rule..
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Such a dumb rule. In what other sport do players keep their scores?! We all have walking scorers with every group and every shot is calculated to the yard. Cmonnn people.

Jesus, it ain’t that hard. I am glad they made this change but I also still believe that if you can’t fucking count get a God Damn clicker I guess.

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I don't really have a huge problem with this because having Tiger in the field is a boon for the tournament organizers, but if he doesn't start playing a bit better I don't really see this mattering a whole lot.


The PGA Tour announced on Tuesday it had created a special exemption for Tiger Woods alone, allowing for qualification to certain events on its schedule.

The ‘Sponsor Exemption for Lifetime Achievement’ will allow players with 80 or more PGA Tour victories to qualify for ‘Signature Events.’
Woods is the only active player who falls into this bracket with 82 career victories. The 15-time major champion is tied for the most ever PGA Tour victories with Sam Snead.

The PGA Tour said it was implementing this to “recognize Tiger Woods in his own category.”

The changes were approved after a meeting between the PGA Tour’s Policy and Enterprises Boards in Hartford, Connecticut.

The eight ‘Signature Events’ on the PGA Tour are the marquee tournaments on the tour’s schedule, boasting increased prize money and more FedExCup points up for grabs.

FedExCup points are accrued over the year, with the top 70 players qualifying for the Playoffs at the end of the season. Last year, there was a whopping $75 million prize pool for the tournament with the winner netting $18 million.The eight ‘Signature Events’ on the PGA Tour calendar are The Sentry, AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am, The Genesis Invitational – a tournament which Woods has hosted in recent years – the Arnold Palmer Invitational, RBC Heritage, Wells Fargo Championship, The Memorial Tournament and the Travelers Championship.

Woods has previously won the Arnold Palmer Invitational eight times and The Memorial Tournament five times.However, after suffering serious leg injuries in a car crash in 2021, Woods hasn’t been able to play golf regularly throughout each season and would therefore not typically qualify for these events.

The 48-year-old has played in only four tournaments this year: The Genesis Invitational and the three majors. He withdrew from the second round of the Genesis in February, finished 60th at the Masters and missed the cut at both the PGA Championship and the US Open.

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I don't really have a huge problem with this because having Tiger in the field is a boon for the tournament organizers, but if he doesn't start playing a bit better I don't really see this mattering a whole lot.
Agree. He will be a non-factor on PGA leaderboards. Once he hits the Champions Tour and can use a cart, I expect him to win somewhat often.

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