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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:40 pm 
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I say he is. If they are not an exciting team with no less than 8 wins, I think he has to be fired. 8 might not even be enough especially if it looks like Williams isn't developing.

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I say he is. If they are not an exciting team with no less than 8 wins, I think he has to be fired. 8 might not even be enough especially if it looks like Williams isn't developing.

If the team has a similar start to the 2023 season, he will be. I think it would take a lot for him to get fired after this season only because it's Caleb's rookie season and they value continuity. I would've fired him after last year, he's a nothing coach.

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Only a 4-13 or 5-12 season (or worse) gets him fired


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I think 8 wins saves him, 7 and under he's gone.

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Playoffs or bust.

Unless Williams likes him but he probably won't like him and then we get Kingsbury.

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Brick wrote:
Playoffs or bust.

Unless Williams likes him but he probably won't like him and then we get Kingsbury.


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I don't think he's on the hot seat. I think he would have been fired if he was.

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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Brick wrote:
Playoffs or bust.

Unless Williams likes him but he probably won't like him and then we get Kingsbury.


Yep

Kingsbury sucks, that would be a disaster

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good dolphin wrote:
I say he is. If they are not an exciting team with no less than 8 wins, I think he has to be fired. 8 might not even be enough especially if it looks like Williams isn't developing.


He probably is, but it also depends on how the season unfolds. If Caleb gets hurt, I don't think he would get fired, but if he doesn't develop, the defense underachieves and this team finishes out of the playoff race, he would be fired.

There is probably a scenario where he keeps the job and the Bears miss the playoffs, but go 9-8, 10-7 and get squeezed out, but the improvement is very visible and the belief is that a 2nd year QB who just had a very good season will develop into a Super Bowl contender.

The other wildcard here is stability for Caleb. Firing Eberflus probably means a brand new OC, difference offense.


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After year 1 you are always on hot seat. Some coaches aren't even making it a year now. Eberflus benefitted from the tank season as it was hard to be worse


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He and Poles have a great relationship. It would likely take a disaster of a season for him to lose his job. He's going to get at least 2 years with Caleb unless the Bears season is a disaster. I'm taking 5 or so wins with a healthy team.

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I'm with others that if Poles was going to fire him, it would have been at the end of last season. Unless its another catastrophic year with his coaches being let go mid-season, etc., I have to guess he gets a free pass this year.

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I'm with others that if Poles was going to fire him, it would have been at the end of last season. Unless its another catastrophic year with his coaches being let go mid-season, etc., I have to guess he gets a free pass this year.

There is a big difference between firing a coach after 2 years and firing a coach after 3 years especially when there was a 4 game improvement in wins from year 1 to year 2.

Not making the playoffs would indicate little to no improvement.

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Brick wrote:
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I'm with others that if Poles was going to fire him, it would have been at the end of last season. Unless its another catastrophic year with his coaches being let go mid-season, etc., I have to guess he gets a free pass this year.

There is a big difference between firing a coach after 2 years and firing a coach after 3 years especially when there was a 4 game improvement in wins from year 1 to year 2.

Not making the playoffs would indicate little to no improvement.


That makes sense. I just can't remember many seasons like last year. The fiasco with Claypool. Two of his coaches being let go in a shroud of mystery with HR involved. Fields struggling and calling out the coaching. The epic losses to the Lions and Broncos. It felt like enough drama and failure to make the decision early.

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Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Brick wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
I'm with others that if Poles was going to fire him, it would have been at the end of last season. Unless its another catastrophic year with his coaches being let go mid-season, etc., I have to guess he gets a free pass this year.

There is a big difference between firing a coach after 2 years and firing a coach after 3 years especially when there was a 4 game improvement in wins from year 1 to year 2.

Not making the playoffs would indicate little to no improvement.


That makes sense. I just can't remember many seasons like last year. The fiasco with Claypool. Two of his coaches being let go in a shroud of mystery with HR involved. Fields struggling and calling out the coaching. The epic losses to the Lions and Broncos. It felt like enough drama and failure to make the decision early.

He should have been fired mid season last year. Bears made a huge mistake not launching him in the offseason.

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textbook definition of lame duck. would have thought they learned their lesson with the lame duck coach + rookie QB the last two times they took a 1st round QB but time is a flat circle

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He should have been fired mid season last year. Bears made a huge mistake not launching him in the offseason.

Should have been out after the loss to the Chargers before he could pad his record with wins against bad teams or that dumb-off with the Vikings. The office wanted to talk themselves out of firing him and did.

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textbook definition of lame duck. would have thought they learned their lesson with the lame duck coach + rookie QB the last two times they took a 1st round QB but time is a flat circle

Time isn't a flat circle. I believe you are thinking of Eternal Recurrence.

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