I am with you in the golden era being the Monsters and HFC. But at its best B&B was right there at level of shows.

1a. Monsters
1b. HFC
2. B&B
3. MJH

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I never got the MJH or Mac love. I didn't want to hear anything Mac had to say outside of football season.

1. Wise Guys
2. B&B

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lol, between an apparent TIA and a word filter or two I'd be ok with a punch-up of that post

That goes way back.


Come to think of it, that was 2012, too, when Junior Seau killed himself. So yeah, late 2012 was the inflection point for when B&B stopped being fun. Had a little blip of fun again with the '14 Bears disaster but the station as a whole had gone down such a bad path by then that one of the producers did a special edition, open-forum show one evening to figure out how to make the Score suck less.

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Penn State was fall '11 because Paterno got whacked midseason. I even remember how when it broke on the Score, it was just like "we're hearing that there's some weird stuff going on at Penn State. hm. interesting" and then the next day it was sound-the-alarms, wall-to-wall Penn State coverage.

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If things like highlight reels existed in the 90s you could have an amazing one from the days of Monsters and HFC. Just transitions alone would be gold.

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Ah, I was going off of Wiki articles saying details began leaking in March, I thought Dan was early money on it. Gladly he found that local reporter in Pennsylvania whom he clearly had a huge crush on.

I'm sure you are right. My Chicago sports radio existence doesn't include anything from the 90s.

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Penn State should've been in their wheelhouse, as they loved to take the piss out of deified college "leaders", and religious hicks in general

the problem must've been that this 'scandal' was too serious of a situation (surely more serious than Ron Santo constantly losing appendages). And then they were defensive after receiving blowback to the discussion and doubling down on how heinous it was and not addressing what the blowback was actually about which wasn't that people supported child rape but they didn't find it entertaining sports talk radio

The Rose injury...that was Bernstein showing his ass as sympathetic of the ownership class, it overrode whatever silliness could've plausibly been used to make that an entertaining radio topic. Like in-prime B&B would've had fun with a player who was healthy but not returning, instead he was worried about Jerry Reinsdorf's wallet

That was around the same time Joakim Noah said he played hard for working-class fans and Senor freaked out because that meant Noah wasn't playing hard for Rich Melman's sons.

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yes that was another issue, Dan thought his show was necessary to amplify and advance the story

I suppose he had a case that perhaps ESPN wasn't doing enough on it, but the show of TB Didders and Count Fagula wasn't designed to pivot to hard news

Boers and Mac were both at their best then.

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The problem wasn't Penn State specifically. It was a massive story deserving of coverage. The problem was that it was basically the #1 topic every single day for what seemed like years. News stories like PSU having a spring game would trigger it like it was some sort of breaking news. Even news from other schools like Northwestern or Illinois would often devolve into a discussion about Penn State.

At some point, you started to question why a Chicago based show was talking so much about something happening in Pennsylvania. They lost the very concept that you need to program your topics for your audience and not what you want to talk about.

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Yeah, I think that as much as anything set the tone for Bernstein & Goff being a show that did deep dives on the Utah Jazz in the conference quarterfinals. They stopped being able to answer "who is this for?"

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It's kind of funny to try and trace it back. Before that, they used to mock the "Why don't you talk more Illini football and basketball?" and then it was "You are hurting Illini recruiting!" and they laughed and made fun of them and said they didn't care and didn't want to talk about it.

But then, I guess they said it enough that they also decided they pretty much didn't have to talk about Chicago sports either except when they brought on Hub Arkush to talk about Caleb Hanie.

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Twitter was becoming popular. It got the show a lot of praise around the country. It turned off long time locals like me.

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True, but using Steve Alford getting hired at UCLA as a vector to talk about other allegations of rape coverups was a bit much.

the problem is it had no wider applicability. There wasn't a network of college football pedos. Report the story, OK. I'll continue not giving to PSU. I could see why it would have more relevance to people in pennsylvania

But it was a case of knowing your audience and Dan's audience was very different then (because of Terry) than it is now

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Because you viewed it as an attack on the Catholics?

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I didn't even think of that angle.

The priest pedo thing is not an attack on Catholics. That is a much needed enema

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Don’t forget about Patrick Kane. Bernstein deserves much worse than what he is getting here.

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Eh, a Blackhawks and NHL star being investigated for rape warranted coverage. That Bernstein and his sycophants so obviously went very hard in the...crease to drive home his presumed guilt because of their biases (the weirdest being that Dan just hates the Blackhawks and hockey) was the only possible outcome after Penn State, Alford, etc.

Exactly.

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that's when 670 lost me

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He was so weird screaming at people giving any benefit of the doubt to Kane early on. YOU CANT SAY THAT! BELIEVE ALL WOMEN! Then the entire case was a sham.

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Oh God, Bernstein screaming about how the presumption of innocence is only in a court of law while trying to impugn Kane as guilty on evidence no more convincing than his hatred of [white] hockey and the Blackhawks specifically was just silly. At least when he was screaming about how bad it was to cover up child rape to win football games he had a good point.

Unnamed Show released. 5-14 minute mark on the Bernstein stuff. Nothing really new except to say Portnoy is not letting this go.

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It's not really funny or amusing or interesting but it always made me laugh when the CTE stuff was happening, and he would talk about the upcoming or recently released movie Concussion which was about all the things he was obsessed with in regards to head injuries in sports but then he'd also have to make the disclaimer that "It's not all about concussions and it's about repeated head trauma that may or may not even involve concussions".

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Might be having a hard time nailing the years but from call it 2005-2010 Who Ya Crapping and Friday Fung were just must listen to radio. The show was amazingly produced with drops, songs, etc.

It was some of the best radio I can remember hearing in any market.

You’re saying that calling into the station drunk while driving a car might be the harbinger of a drinking problem?