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Might be having a hard time nailing the years but from call it 2005-2010 Who Ya Crapping and Friday Fung were just must listen to radio. The show was amazingly produced with drops, songs, etc.

It was some of the best radio I can remember hearing in any market.


Bernsiestein - what are we allowed to call him? - ruining WYC was the turning point for me. It was a bit that would have run its course and probably had but to make it the suck-up to Dansie segment by parroting his thoughts with all the verbal dexterity of a faux érudit (Hey! Dan! Look at me!! We're the same!! That's French - suck on that 815!! Mouth-breathers!!) and no PASHUN! always just made me angry.

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Might be having a hard time nailing the years but from call it 2005-2010 Who Ya Crapping and Friday Fung were just must listen to radio. The show was amazingly produced with drops, songs, etc.

It was some of the best radio I can remember hearing in any market.

Even my girlfriend at the time, who had zero interest in sports, loved listening to Friday Fung when she was in the car with me.

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It was such a simple but effective bit: tell humorous anecdotes humorously and then the hosts riff on them further. When we talk about missing caller interaction, I think that's what we really miss, not just random calls about sports.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
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Might be having a hard time nailing the years but from call it 2005-2010 Who Ya Crapping and Friday Fung were just must listen to radio. The show was amazingly produced with drops, songs, etc.

It was some of the best radio I can remember hearing in any market.


Bernsiestein - what are we allowed to call him? - ruining WYC was the turning point for me. It was a bit that would have run its course and probably had but to make it the suck-up to Dansie segment by parroting his thoughts with all the verbal dexterity of a faux érudit (Hey! Dan! Look at me!! We're the same!! That's French - suck on that 815!! Mouth-breathers!!) and no PASHUN! always just made me angry.

And, for fuck's sake, I go on a semi-hiatus and you put good dolphin in charge!?! Get the fuck out of here.

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Leila likes him. Maybe some guest nerds that have segments. I basically like Bernstein but I really am puzzled about his self inflicted wounds. He's bigoted all the time yet he doesn't think he is? Gregorian chants? Chicago accent=dumb? He's the most judgmental host in radio with insinuations based on group, job, location, and religion. It's bigotry.

I don't care. A lot of it is funny, some of it isn't. But that's the line really entertaining people walk. It's just plain old hypocrisy to rip other people doing the same goddam thing.


He did what he needed to do for survival. As you know, kids also have a way of getting you to modify some of your crude thoughts.

I think MANY people's dislike of Bernstein has more to do with them than it does with anything Bernstein has said or done. They don't like that he's a scrawny nerd and Jewish. They don't like that he comes from a well off family. They especially don't like that he's publicly leaned into liberal views. If Bernstein was conservative, MANY would love him. He probably would have gotten fired a decade ago, though.
You have like 2 pages of very valid reasons why people don’t like him and you want to go with it’s because he’s a rich Jew ?


Well said and agreed.

lol to "MANY" people not finding him likable because Jewish scrawny nerd, what an incredibly super shitty brush to paint with (especially, as has been said, in a thread/forum with plenty of reasons why people have soured on the guy). He's a pseudo intellectual hypocrite who quite seriously will tell people whether or not he has decided if it's ok that they celebrate a win or very_slowly explains to people how they should interpret something someone said or did ALL THE WHILE being just a wacky normal guy who works himself into a half chub talking about his McDonalds order, you know because he's "an id10t" - so relatable and such a juxtaposition for such a smart guy!!!11!!!!!


Why does Bernstein get judged so harshly for MANY of the same traits that his critics appreciate in the entertainers they love? Why is Bernstein being judged harshly for things we're all guilty of?

Because Bernstein judges so harshly but never turns that criticism inward. The Cheryl Scott stuff is probably worse than anything Barstool has ever done. He's just a very strident hypocrite, people hate that.

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I hate the entertainer so much that I not only want to behave like him, but I want to harm his partner and his family. That makes sense.

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At some point, you started to question why a Chicago based show was talking so much about something happening in Pennsylvania. They lost the very concept that you need to program your topics for your audience and not what you want to talk about.

Yeah, I think that as much as anything set the tone for Bernstein & Goff being a show that did deep dives on the Utah Jazz in the conference quarterfinals. They stopped being able to answer "who is this for?"


I actually thought the Penn St coverage was actually totally appropriate and was generally under covered everywhere else. The details of that story are so unbelievable, you actually had real, concrete evidence of an elite institution covering up for an employee using his charity to farm underage rape victims. Like a real Comet Pizza or whatever fake story people wanted to be real for unknown reasons but amazingly, there were Paterno Truthers. https://truthout.org/articles/who-s-afraid-of-joe-paterno-s-defenders-exposing-the-penn-state-truthers/

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I hate the entertainer so much that I not only want to behave like him, but I want to harm his partner and his family. That makes sense.


I don't actually hate him that much, anyone going after his family is a total loser. I'm just explaining why he's such a lightning rod for people.

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It's not really funny or amusing or interesting but it always made me laugh when the CTE stuff was happening, and he would talk about the upcoming or recently released movie Concussion which was about all the things he was obsessed with in regards to head injuries in sports but then he'd also have to make the disclaimer that "It's not all about concussions and it's about repeated head trauma that may or may not even involve concussions".


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It's not really funny or amusing or interesting but it always made me laugh when the CTE stuff was happening, and he would talk about the upcoming or recently released movie Concussion which was about all the things he was obsessed with in regards to head injuries in sports but then he'd also have to make the disclaimer that "It's not all about concussions and it's about repeated head trauma that may or may not even involve concussions".


"She's a doctor who is a HUGE Packers fan!"


Bernstein would also say "I want football as violent as possible!!!" Ok, what are you complaining about then?

ETA: I think it was actually closer to "I don't want football to be safe, football is violent, and I want it to stay that way"

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I hate the entertainer so much that I not only want to behave like him, but I want to harm his partner and his family. That makes sense.


I don't actually hate him that much, anyone going after his family is a total loser. I'm just explaining why he's such a lightning rod for people.

I’m 100% sure that if the wife of someone like say Harrison Butker for recency sake wouldve tweeted that she was wondering if its a rule that the Golden Globes must be given to every fat black actress , Lil Danny would be totally above board and not target her , their kids , or anyone else related to her in his outrage.

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I hate the entertainer so much that I not only want to behave like him, but I want to harm his partner and his family. That makes sense.


I don't actually hate him that much, anyone going after his family is a total loser. I'm just explaining why he's such a lightning rod for people.

I’m 100% sure that if the wife of someone like say Harrison Butker for recency sake wouldve tweeted that she was wondering if its a rule that the Golden Globes must be given to every fat black actress , Lil Danny would totally not target her , their kids , or anyone else related to her in his outrage.


You mean like with tweets or like going to their house/job? Tweets sure, I don't recall Bernstein ever doing anything like that IRL, but maybe I'm wrong

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Was Dan still holding to the “I’m cool with you letting your kids get brain damage playing football but I’m not going to let mine” stance on CTE?

Not criticizing. Just curious.

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Was Dan still holding to the “I’m cool with you letting your kids get brain damage playing football but I’m not going to let mine” stance on CTE?

Not criticizing. Just curious.


I don't think he ever came off that, he just eventually stopped saying it.

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Might be having a hard time nailing the years but from call it 2005-2010 Who Ya Crapping and Friday Fung were just must listen to radio. The show was amazingly produced with drops, songs, etc.

It was some of the best radio I can remember hearing in any market.


Bernsiestein - what are we allowed to call him? - ruining WYC was the turning point for me. It was a bit that would have run its course and probably had but to make it the suck-up to Dansie segment by parroting his thoughts with all the verbal dexterity of a faux érudit (Hey! Dan! Look at me!! We're the same!! That's French - suck on that 815!! Mouth-breathers!!) and no PASHUN! always just made me angry.

And, for fuck's sake, I go on a semi-hiatus and you put good dolphin in charge!?! Get the fuck out of here.

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Yeah, WYC was decent when B&B started (though eventually died when Dan ignored the guideline prohibiting partisan craps), but was never nearly as good as peak HFC WYC. I pity those of you who are too young to have heard them. Pure gold.

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:lol: :lol: for whoever changed the name of this forum.

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I hate the entertainer so much that I not only want to behave like him, but I want to harm his partner and his family. That makes sense.


I don't actually hate him that much, anyone going after his family is a total loser. I'm just explaining why he's such a lightning rod for people.

I’m 100% sure that if the wife of someone like say Harrison Butker for recency sake wouldve tweeted that she was wondering if its a rule that the Golden Globes must be given to every fat black actress , Lil Danny would be totally above board and not target her , their kids , or anyone else related to her in his outrage.


The wife didn't tweet it. The wife told her husband a joke in confidence and he drunkenly shared it with the public.

Dan's an asshole rich kid who may believe that he is smarter than everyone else. He used his platform to wrongly go after professional athletes and some of his peers. To either entertain himself or just to simply be mean. He doesn't apologize. He panders a lot. He's said a lot of things that MANY believe to be racist or sexist. He's looked down on addicts and the poor.

I know it's lost on MANY, but those are all things that have been said about Trump. MANY people posting in this thread will vote for him in 60 days The same people want to destroy the life of a guy who may be exactly like the guy they want to run the country. It's insane.

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At some point, you started to question why a Chicago based show was talking so much about something happening in Pennsylvania. They lost the very concept that you need to program your topics for your audience and not what you want to talk about.

Yeah, I think that as much as anything set the tone for Bernstein & Goff being a show that did deep dives on the Utah Jazz in the conference quarterfinals. They stopped being able to answer "who is this for?"


I actually thought the Penn St coverage was actually totally appropriate and was generally under covered everywhere else. The details of that story are so unbelievable, you actually had real, concrete evidence of an elite institution covering up for an employee using his charity to farm underage rape victims. Like a real Comet Pizza or whatever fake story people wanted to be real for unknown reasons but amazingly, there were Paterno Truthers. https://truthout.org/articles/who-s-afraid-of-joe-paterno-s-defenders-exposing-the-penn-state-truthers/


That is true and fine but B&B is not 60 Minutes. Dan should have produced his own “special broadcast” and him and Mia Ham or whatever could have coitus.

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I hate the entertainer so much that I not only want to behave like him, but I want to harm his partner and his family. That makes sense.


I don't actually hate him that much, anyone going after his family is a total loser. I'm just explaining why he's such a lightning rod for people.

I’m 100% sure that if the wife of someone like say Harrison Butker for recency sake wouldve tweeted that she was wondering if its a rule that the Golden Globes must be given to every fat black actress , Lil Danny would be totally above board and not target her , their kids , or anyone else related to her in his outrage.


The wife didn't tweet it. The wife told her husband a joke in confidence and he drunkenly shared it with the public.

Dan's an asshole rich kid who may believe that he is smarter than everyone else. He used his platform to wrongly go after professional athletes and some of his peers. To either entertain himself or just to simply be mean. He doesn't apologize. He panders a lot. He's said a lot of things that MANY believe to be racist or sexist. He's looked down on addicts and the poor.

I know it's lost on MANY, but those are all things that have been said about Trump. MANY people posting in this thread will vote for him in 60 days The same people want to destroy the life of a guy who may be exactly like the guy they want to run the country. It's insane.


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Nas wrote:
I hate the entertainer so much that I not only want to behave like him, but I want to harm his partner and his family. That makes sense.


I don't actually hate him that much, anyone going after his family is a total loser. I'm just explaining why he's such a lightning rod for people.

I’m 100% sure that if the wife of someone like say Harrison Butker for recency sake wouldve tweeted that she was wondering if its a rule that the Golden Globes must be given to every fat black actress , Lil Danny would be totally above board and not target her , their kids , or anyone else related to her in his outrage.


The wife didn't tweet it. The wife told her husband a joke in confidence and he drunkenly shared it with the public.

Dan's an asshole rich kid who may believe that he is smarter than everyone else. He used his platform to wrongly go after professional athletes and some of his peers. To either entertain himself or just to simply be mean. He doesn't apologize. He panders a lot. He's said a lot of things that MANY believe to be racist or sexist. He's looked down on addicts and the poor.

I know it's lost on MANY, but those are all things that have been said about Trump. MANY people posting in this thread will vote for him in 60 days The same people want to destroy the life of a guy who may be exactly like the guy they want to run the country. It's insane.


It’s not a zero sum game.


In my world, if a man has personally harmed you then he and everyone around him are fair game. If he's simply annoyed you, his family and livelihood should be off limits.

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
I hate the entertainer so much that I not only want to behave like him, but I want to harm his partner and his family. That makes sense.


I don't actually hate him that much, anyone going after his family is a total loser. I'm just explaining why he's such a lightning rod for people.

I’m 100% sure that if the wife of someone like say Harrison Butker for recency sake wouldve tweeted that she was wondering if its a rule that the Golden Globes must be given to every fat black actress , Lil Danny would be totally above board and not target her , their kids , or anyone else related to her in his outrage.


The wife didn't tweet it. The wife told her husband a joke in confidence and he drunkenly shared it with the public.

Dan's an asshole rich kid who may believe that he is smarter than everyone else. He used his platform to wrongly go after professional athletes and some of his peers. To either entertain himself or just to simply be mean. He doesn't apologize. He panders a lot. He's said a lot of things that MANY believe to be racist or sexist. He's looked down on addicts and the poor.

I know it's lost on MANY, but those are all things that have been said about Trump. MANY people posting in this thread will vote for him in 60 days The same people want to destroy the life of a guy who may be exactly like the guy they want to run the country. It's insane.


It’s not a zero sum game.


In my world, if a man has personally harmed you then he and everyone around him are fair game. If he's simply annoyed you, his family and livelihood should be off limits.


I meant that some excuse trump and not Dan or vice versa.

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At some point, you started to question why a Chicago based show was talking so much about something happening in Pennsylvania. They lost the very concept that you need to program your topics for your audience and not what you want to talk about.

Yeah, I think that as much as anything set the tone for Bernstein & Goff being a show that did deep dives on the Utah Jazz in the conference quarterfinals. They stopped being able to answer "who is this for?"


I actually thought the Penn St coverage was actually totally appropriate and was generally under covered everywhere else. The details of that story are so unbelievable, you actually had real, concrete evidence of an elite institution covering up for an employee using his charity to farm underage rape victims. Like a real Comet Pizza or whatever fake story people wanted to be real for unknown reasons but amazingly, there were Paterno Truthers. https://truthout.org/articles/who-s-afraid-of-joe-paterno-s-defenders-exposing-the-penn-state-truthers/


That is true and fine but B&B is not 60 Minutes. Dan should have produced his own “special broadcast” and him and Mia Ham or whatever could have coitus.


I know, but the show had his last name it, it's kind of his decision to make. I get why people didn't like it, I thought it was mostly pretty good. Sara Ganim was the reporter if I remember correctly.

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Was Dan still holding to the “I’m cool with you letting your kids get brain damage playing football but I’m not going to let mine” stance on CTE?

Not criticizing. Just curious.


Which makes no sense because his son played hockey.


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Was Dan still holding to the “I’m cool with you letting your kids get brain damage playing football but I’m not going to let mine” stance on CTE?

Not criticizing. Just curious.


Which makes no sense because his son played hockey.


Is hockey really a head injury sport? How many former players have CTE?

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Was Dan still holding to the “I’m cool with you letting your kids get brain damage playing football but I’m not going to let mine” stance on CTE?

Not criticizing. Just curious.


Which makes no sense because his son played hockey.

Bernstein fils would have been about 3 years old when Dollar Bill kicked the bucket and the Hawks became semi-relevant. But Dan's hatred of the Blackhawks didn't really kick into high gear until the Bulls drafted Derrick Rose the next summer, because now there was this demand out of nowhere to pull him away from his favorite sport at a time when he should have been able to dive right into it without splitting his focus between winter teams, so he spent Toews/Kane's breakout sophomore season in a constant pout that people were demanding hockey coverage when all he wanted to do was nerd out over NBA arcana every day.

It got to the point where McDonough started over-the-top bribing the Score into favorable coverage by giving them luxury suites and all the free swag they could find but that still didn't sway Dan. McDonough even set up a bunch of appearances for Jay Zawaski to have a Hawks-themed wedding and Dan said it was like going to a birthday party for a five-year-old.

Finally, they were able to pique his kid's interest, but Dan forbade him to play any other position but goalie so as to minimize contact, and even with all that, I don't think he ever really took to the Blackhawks. My personal conspiracy theory is that part of the reason he slandered Cheryl Scott in 2015 was to get out of going to work the next day.

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Is hockey really a head injury sport? How many former players have CTE?

Derek Boogaard, Rick Rypien, and Wade Belak all killed themselves in the summer of '11 and they all had CTE upon autopsy. Steve Montador, who was with the Hawks for a year and change, also killed himself and was found to have CTE.

I think we'll find it out about Jonathan Toews down the road. I still remember the game against Vancouver where he got lit the fuck up and came back way too soon. Then there was the time he drove into the Lake Street L tracks.

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At some point, you started to question why a Chicago based show was talking so much about something happening in Pennsylvania. They lost the very concept that you need to program your topics for your audience and not what you want to talk about.

Yeah, I think that as much as anything set the tone for Bernstein & Goff being a show that did deep dives on the Utah Jazz in the conference quarterfinals. They stopped being able to answer "who is this for?"


I actually thought the Penn St coverage was actually totally appropriate and was generally under covered everywhere else. The details of that story are so unbelievable, you actually had real, concrete evidence of an elite institution covering up for an employee using his charity to farm underage rape victims. Like a real Comet Pizza or whatever fake story people wanted to be real for unknown reasons but amazingly, there were Paterno Truthers. https://truthout.org/articles/who-s-afraid-of-joe-paterno-s-defenders-exposing-the-penn-state-truthers/


That is true and fine but B&B is not 60 Minutes. Dan should have produced his own “special broadcast” and him and Mia Ham or whatever could have coitus.


I know, but the show had his last name it, it's kind of his decision to make. I get why people didn't like it, I thought it was mostly pretty good. Sara Ganim was the reporter if I remember correctly.

I’d imagine most agreed with him on substance. Problem was he also spun fatigue with the daily segments as a with-us-or-against-us, adversarial relationship with the audience.

It was a show that never catered to a college football audience and it became a college football show overnight, but the only story was child rape.

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Sure but you are a shitty teammate if you aren't really a good goalie and your dad is saying let all the other kids get brain damage like the asshole that he is.

I believe there is a higher rate of concussions in youth hockey than youth football.


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Ricky11Slade wrote:
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At some point, you started to question why a Chicago based show was talking so much about something happening in Pennsylvania. They lost the very concept that you need to program your topics for your audience and not what you want to talk about.

Yeah, I think that as much as anything set the tone for Bernstein & Goff being a show that did deep dives on the Utah Jazz in the conference quarterfinals. They stopped being able to answer "who is this for?"


I actually thought the Penn St coverage was actually totally appropriate and was generally under covered everywhere else. The details of that story are so unbelievable, you actually had real, concrete evidence of an elite institution covering up for an employee using his charity to farm underage rape victims. Like a real Comet Pizza or whatever fake story people wanted to be real for unknown reasons but amazingly, there were Paterno Truthers. https://truthout.org/articles/who-s-afraid-of-joe-paterno-s-defenders-exposing-the-penn-state-truthers/


That is true and fine but B&B is not 60 Minutes. Dan should have produced his own “special broadcast” and him and Mia Ham or whatever could have coitus.


I know, but the show had his last name it, it's kind of his decision to make. I get why people didn't like it, I thought it was mostly pretty good. Sara Ganim was the reporter if I remember correctly.

I’d imagine most agreed with him on substance. Problem was he also spun fatigue with the daily segments as a with-us-or-against-us, adversarial relationship with the audience.

It was a show that never catered to a college football audience and it became a college football show overnight, but the only story was child rape.


Instead of shock jocks cracking wise it became Very. Serious. Radio.

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