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Got around the paywall, sorry for not staying out of White Sox business: https://archive.ph/aBmjH

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The White Sox charter an Airbus320, a plane first manufactured in the 1980s. It features only eight first-class seats; the rest is coach. A majority of MLB teams charter bigger 757s, with ample first-class seating for the players and the coaching staff. Even well-known frugal franchises such as the Tampa Bay Rays, Colorado Rockies and Miami Marlins charter nicer planes. But not the White Sox.

When a player new to Chicago first stepped onboard this season, he said loudly: “C’mon, man, no show plane?” A chorus of players burst into laughter. Last year, a tweet comparing the planes used by MLB teams caused a stir when it was shared among White Sox players while they were onboard.

A team plane doesn’t make errors or poor baseball decisions. But the White Sox’s decision to use a smaller, older plane reflects how they operate. The difference between the White Sox and other clubs is so stark, players who leave Chicago for other teams celebrate their freedom by texting each other “This is the big leagues.”
“They don’t do the little or the big things right,” said a recently departed veteran.

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I’m probably truly alone at this point as a White Sox fan who approves of Reinsdorf and the way the team is run. I actually like that the Sox have real local roots and try to zig while others zag. I liked the Tony LaRussa hire and still do. I do not think more focus on analytics does anything to change their fortunes.

What went wrong? They botched the rebuild. They didn’t get the right players and could only sustain success for one year. It was a missed execution of one of the most bold teardowns any team has attempted in living memory. A couple added things went wrong and its made for what will probably be the worst season in history. Oh well.

There are some really good arms in this organization. I’m very glad they didn’t deal Garrett Crochet, but I’m dismayed they sold Fedde so cheap. There’s a path to respectability next year and with some shrewd acquisitions it can turn around fast. They have the talent in terms of arms. It seems crazy to say about a team that is almost certain to break the loss record, but people are overreacting.


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I’m probably truly alone at this point as a White Sox fan who approves of Reinsdorf and the way the team is run. I actually like that the Sox have real local roots and try to zig while others zag. I liked the Tony LaRussa hire and still do. I do not think more focus on analytics does anything to change their fortunes.


I get that. I thought it was cool that the Philadelphia Flyers ran the same run-and-gun-and-injure-people system from the early '70s until fairly recently. Same with the Raiders under Al Davis. But for better or worse, it just doesn't work that way anymore. You can't write scouting reports that are just "try to throw strikes to this guy."

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Another easy fix for the sleeping giant.

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I’m probably truly alone at this point as a White Sox fan who approves of Reinsdorf and the way the team is run. I actually like that the Sox have real local roots and try to zig while others zag. I liked the Tony LaRussa hire and still do. I do not think more focus on analytics does anything to change their fortunes.

What went wrong? They botched the rebuild. They didn’t get the right players and could only sustain success for one year. It was a missed execution of one of the most bold teardowns any team has attempted in living memory. A couple added things went wrong and its made for what will probably be the worst season in history. Oh well.

There are some really good arms in this organization. I’m very glad they didn’t deal Garrett Crochet, but I’m dismayed they sold Fedde so cheap. There’s a path to respectability next year and with some shrewd acquisitions it can turn around fast. They have the talent in terms of arms. It seems crazy to say about a team that is almost certain to break the loss record, but people are overreacting.


Haven't you been selling the same crap story for years? If you were a broken clock, you'd find a way to avoid being right even twice a day. Give it up.

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I’m probably truly alone at this point as a White Sox fan who approves of Reinsdorf and the way the team is run. I actually like that the Sox have real local roots and try to zig while others zag. I liked the Tony LaRussa hire and still do. I do not think more focus on analytics does anything to change their fortunes.


I get that. I thought it was cool that the Philadelphia Flyers ran the same run-and-gun-and-injure-people system from the early '70s until fairly recently. Same with the Raiders under Al Davis. But for better or worse, it just doesn't work that way anymore. You can't write scouting reports that are just "try to throw strikes to this guy."


The Sox would need to have a system before they could be guilty of having the wrong system. They are just a confederacy of dunces throwing shit at the wall to see what works. Every once in a while, they're right. But most of the times they're just spinning their wheels.

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They are just a confederacy of dunces throwing shit at the wall to see what works. Every once in a while, they're right. But most of the times they're just spinning their wheels.
The White Sox are just like the Politics section here.

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Brick wrote:
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They are just a confederacy of dunces throwing shit at the wall to see what works. Every once in a while, they're right. But most of the times they're just spinning their wheels.
The White Sox are just like the Politics section here.

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A shitty plane is actually a great idea, then they could envoke my idea, Rule 29

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=132503

It would really be better if a Boeing though, no?


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Another easy fix for the sleeping giant.


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I get that. I thought it was cool that the Philadelphia Flyers ran the same run-and-gun-and-injure-people system from the early '70s until fairly recently. Same with the Raiders under Al Davis. But for better or worse, it just doesn't work that way anymore. You can't write scouting reports that are just "try to throw strikes to this guy."

I’m not saying this is wrong at all, but the reason the Sox are likely going to be the worst MLB team ever is because they are profoundly untalented. If the Sox had a few good players but had a quirky, outdated style you’d be talking more about a team battling for .500 not battling against the ‘63 Mets.


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A shitty plane is actually a great idea, then they could envoke my idea, Rule 29

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=132503

It would really be better if a Boeing though, no?

Hire a couple of Pakistani pilots.


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Tall Midget wrote:
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USA wrote:
I’m probably truly alone at this point as a White Sox fan who approves of Reinsdorf and the way the team is run. I actually like that the Sox have real local roots and try to zig while others zag. I liked the Tony LaRussa hire and still do. I do not think more focus on analytics does anything to change their fortunes.


I get that. I thought it was cool that the Philadelphia Flyers ran the same run-and-gun-and-injure-people system from the early '70s until fairly recently. Same with the Raiders under Al Davis. But for better or worse, it just doesn't work that way anymore. You can't write scouting reports that are just "try to throw strikes to this guy."


The Sox would need to have a system before they could be guilty of having the wrong system. They are just a confederacy of dunces throwing shit at the wall to see what works. Every once in a while, they're right. But most of the times they're just spinning their wheels.


the Bulls are evidence where the teams take their character. They are nearly identical organizationally. The Bulls just happen to draw a crowd. Thinking about it, Krause took the heat for what is apparently a Reinsdorf problem.

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There are some really good arms in this organization. I’m very glad they didn’t deal Garrett Crochet, but I’m dismayed they sold Fedde so cheap. There’s a path to respectability next year and with some shrewd acquisitions it can turn around fast. They have the talent in terms of arms. It seems crazy to say about a team that is almost certain to break the loss record, but people are overreacting.

Yeah no need to overreact. This is not that bad. Almost 140 losses. Just a couple tweaks away from a wild card spot.... :roll:

THey did not trade Crochet yet. They will have to at some point.

A pathway to respectability next year? Thats crazy. They are not going to be very active in free agency. They will sign a couple older pitchers and hope to catch something special so then they can trade them.

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Brick wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
They are just a confederacy of dunces throwing shit at the wall to see what works. Every once in a while, they're right. But most of the times they're just spinning their wheels.
The White Sox are just like the Politics section here.


I was thinking more like Cum Town.


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I’m probably truly alone at this point as a White Sox fan who approves of Reinsdorf and the way the team is run. I actually like that the Sox have real local roots and try to zig while others zag. I liked the Tony LaRussa hire and still do. I do not think more focus on analytics does anything to change their fortunes.


I get that. I thought it was cool that the Philadelphia Flyers ran the same run-and-gun-and-injure-people system from the early '70s until fairly recently. Same with the Raiders under Al Davis. But for better or worse, it just doesn't work that way anymore. You can't write scouting reports that are just "try to throw strikes to this guy."


The Sox would need to have a system before they could be guilty of having the wrong system. They are just a confederacy of dunces throwing shit at the wall to see what works. Every once in a while, they're right. But most of the times they're just spinning their wheels.


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Are the Sox too good? A lot of smart people are asking.

Dude they're playing out the plot to major league. Let it happen.

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Shills Levine and Stone's damage control reaction from the article will be interesting listens on their next Score visits.


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Remember trading Eaton for Giolito, Lopez, and Dane Dunning? At the time I think I called it a felony.

The rebuild was solid. 99% agreed. I guess the walls of the franchise are painted the color 'Destined To Fail' magenta.

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A shitty plane is actually a great idea, then they could envoke my idea, Rule 29

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It would really be better if a Boeing though, no?




Of course dipshit up there doesn't realize the Cubs fly a shitty little A320 equivalent 737.


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Remember all the gloating and the "Thanks Cubs" from Benetti? I absolutely love that the Sox have turned into such dogshit.

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Remember all the gloating and the "Thanks Cubs" from Benetti? I absolutely love that the Sox have turned into such dogshit.

How's the Wild Card chase going?

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Got around the paywall, sorry for not staying out of White Sox business: https://archive.ph/aBmjH

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The White Sox charter an Airbus320, a plane first manufactured in the 1980s. It features only eight first-class seats; the rest is coach. A majority of MLB teams charter bigger 757s, with ample first-class seating for the players and the coaching staff. Even well-known frugal franchises such as the Tampa Bay Rays, Colorado Rockies and Miami Marlins charter nicer planes. But not the White Sox.

When a player new to Chicago first stepped onboard this season, he said loudly: “C’mon, man, no show plane?” A chorus of players burst into laughter. Last year, a tweet comparing the planes used by MLB teams caused a stir when it was shared among White Sox players while they were onboard.

A team plane doesn’t make errors or poor baseball decisions. But the White Sox’s decision to use a smaller, older plane reflects how they operate. The difference between the White Sox and other clubs is so stark, players who leave Chicago for other teams celebrate their freedom by texting each other “This is the big leagues.”
“They don’t do the little or the big things right,” said a recently departed veteran.


the author is not an equipment expert. size? sure...the airbus in question is smaller than a 757, but, 757s have been around longer than that airbus. he gave the configuration, which is all the money.


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Remember all the gloating and the "Thanks Cubs" from Benetti? I absolutely love that the Sox have turned into such dogshit.

At least Sox fans knew what was coming. The disappointment of Cubs fans who were dumb enough to buy into what Ricketts was selling is almost as gratifying as watching my Brewers March into the playoffs. :alien:

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A shitty plane is actually a great idea, then they could envoke my idea, Rule 29

https://www.chicagofanatics.com/viewtop ... 3&t=132503

It would really be better if a Boeing though, no?




Of course dipshit up there doesn't realize the Cubs fly a shitty little A320 equivalent 737.


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Remember all the gloating and the "Thanks Cubs" from Benetti? I absolutely love that the Sox have turned into such dogshit.


100 percent this.

Whenever I start feeling sorry for these assholes I think of this.

Thanks Cubs! Is a big laugh now. Arrogant little fuck and arrogant organization. Talking shit when you’ve won nothing.

And remember back in 2020/21 Kenny Williams signed all the future white sox HOFs in the minors to long term deals. They ask him about it and he says it’ll pay off when we start winning World Series in the next few years. :lol: Arrogant pos - he should know nothing is guaranteed in baseball. Nothing!

Fuck these assholes and their fans. I hope they lose even more games next year.


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Thank fuck yer back, now CB can stop DMing everyone asking if we knew where HY went. I think he missed you. Wanted your digits and shit. I dunno. Crazy.

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SHARK is alive and well at the ancient Chicago Media Chat board, where he posts as ABRockNJock. You get a little of the rock, a little of the jock.

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