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Believing already that Caleb Williams is a bust while also being not down on the White Sox.

Believing that PAW is a star/future star in the NBA while also believing that Caleb Williams is a bust already.

I am sure we all have our own ridiculous fan moments. But these are two that really stand out at the moment.

What are some others you have or see in others?

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Is this about someone in particular? Just asking a question.

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Believing already that Caleb Williams is a bust while also being not down on the White Sox.

Believing that PAW is a star/future star in the NBA while also believing that Caleb Williams is a bust already.

I am sure we all have our own ridiculous fan moments. But these are two that really stand out at the moment.

What are some others you have or see in others?

These are not real opinions. They're commentary from a lonely guy designed to frustrate people and get them posting back and forth as a way to alleviate boredom. Nobody is actually that dumb.

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Believing already that Caleb Williams is a bust while also being not down on the White Sox.

Believing that PAW is a star/future star in the NBA while also believing that Caleb Williams is a bust already.

I am sure we all have our own ridiculous fan moments. But these are two that really stand out at the moment.

What are some others you have or see in others?

These are not real opinions. They're commentary from a lonely guy designed to frustrate people and get them posting back and forth as a way to alleviate boredom. Nobody is actually that dumb.

These are not both from the same guy.

I am not starting a thread to take shots at LTG. There are plenty of other places to do that :lol:

The first opinion is from our recent returnee America

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But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.

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But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.

Only because you haven't actually read the Sleeping Giants original post. Instead of being passive-aggressive about it then actually respond to the points made. The young talent they had at the time didn't work out in a spectacular failure. Now look at the rest of the things said in it.

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But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.

Only because you haven't actually read the Sleeping Giants original post. Instead of being passive-aggressive about it then actually respond to the points made. The young talent they had at the time didn't work out in a spectacular failure. Now look at the rest of the things said in it.

I did actually. Was your point to be sarcastic? If so... not bad.

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I agreed with 85% of what Hahn did and firing him felt like firing myself. I don't know if it would have made any difference if Hahn got his manager pick in Hinch but I sure would have liked to find out.


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But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.

Only because you haven't actually read the Sleeping Giants original post. Instead of being passive-aggressive about it then actually respond to the points made. The young talent they had at the time didn't work out in a spectacular failure. Now look at the rest of the things said in it.

I did actually. Was your point to be sarcastic? If so... not bad.

You did? Can you post the link to it? I must have missed it. I will respond quickly if I haven't already.

I'm specifically interested if you realized that "new ownership" was one of the primary factors.

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Brick wrote:
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But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.

Only because you haven't actually read the Sleeping Giants original post. Instead of being passive-aggressive about it then actually respond to the points made. The young talent they had at the time didn't work out in a spectacular failure. Now look at the rest of the things said in it.

I did actually. Was your point to be sarcastic? If so... not bad.

You did? Can you post the link to it? I must have missed it. I will respond quickly if I haven't already.

I'm specifically interested if you realized that "new ownership" was one of the primary factors.

It's in the white sox section on page one. You don't have to be upset with me that your prediction was bad. We all have bad predictions.

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I agreed with 85% of what Hahn did and firing him felt like firing myself. I don't know if it would have made any difference if Hahn got his manager pick in Hinch but I sure would have liked to find out.


I feel the same way about Hahn. Most of the young players he acquired were well regarded, or at least better regarded than the players that Getz has been acquiring, they just didn't work out. However, Hinch would not have made a difference with that group.


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Darkside wrote:
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Brick wrote:
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But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.

Only because you haven't actually read the Sleeping Giants original post. Instead of being passive-aggressive about it then actually respond to the points made. The young talent they had at the time didn't work out in a spectacular failure. Now look at the rest of the things said in it.

I did actually. Was your point to be sarcastic? If so... not bad.

You did? Can you post the link to it? I must have missed it. I will respond quickly if I haven't already.

I'm specifically interested if you realized that "new ownership" was one of the primary factors.

It's in the white sox section on page one. You don't have to be upset with me that your prediction was bad. We all have bad predictions.

I know how to find my own posts. I'm looking for your reply to the specific points made.

The fact that you think it was a "prediction" indicates once again you don't really grasp the concept of it. You seem to think it was a "Sox are going to win the World Series in 2024" thread.

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Brick wrote:
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Brick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
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But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.

Only because you haven't actually read the Sleeping Giants original post. Instead of being passive-aggressive about it then actually respond to the points made. The young talent they had at the time didn't work out in a spectacular failure. Now look at the rest of the things said in it.

I did actually. Was your point to be sarcastic? If so... not bad.

You did? Can you post the link to it? I must have missed it. I will respond quickly if I haven't already.

I'm specifically interested if you realized that "new ownership" was one of the primary factors.

It's in the white sox section on page one. You don't have to be upset with me that your prediction was bad. We all have bad predictions.

I know how to find my own posts. I'm looking for your reply to the specific points made.

The fact that you think it was a "prediction" indicates once again you don't really grasp the concept of it. You seem to think it was a "Sox are going to win the World Series in 2024" thread.

We had this conversation in that same thread. I don't think calling them Sleeping giants gives you 10 years. If you have said rip van winkle of sports then maybe I'd give you those 10 years. To your point you didn't put a timeline on it, but that mainly out of cowardice and or trolling.

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We had this conversation in that same thread. I don't think calling them Sleeping giants gives you 10 years. If you have said rip van winkle of sports then maybe I'd give you those 10 years. To your point you didn't put a timeline on it, but that mainly out of cowardice and or trolling.
Again, you completely misunderstand the point if you think 10 years was too long of a timeline. The very concept of a "sleeping giant" has a long time frame associated with it.

It's your choice though. You can either respond to the original post, even with the benefit of hindsight as at least one line item failed, or you can just continue to act like it was a "White Sox will win the World Series in 2024" thread if you want.

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We had this conversation in that same thread. I don't think calling them Sleeping giants gives you 10 years. If you have said rip van winkle of sports then maybe I'd give you those 10 years. To your point you didn't put a timeline on it, but that mainly out of cowardice and or trolling.
Again, you completely misunderstand the point if you think 10 years was too long of a timeline. The very concept of a "sleeping giant" has a long time frame associated with it.

It's your choice though. You can either respond to the original post, even with the benefit of hindsight as at least one line item failed, or you can just continue to act like it was a "White Sox will win the World Series in 2024" thread if you want.

Ok... so since you've posted that they've declined significantly, lost all their talent, fired several managers and GMs, lost over 100 games consecutively and posted the highest loss total in baseball history.
Look man we both know what you were trying to say.
If it was trolling bravo. If not... it was a terrible thread.

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that is a great submission. Definitely ridiculous

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Darkside wrote:
But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.


The Astros/White Sox 2021 ALDS thread is pretty great. The Sox fans thought the Sox were going to steamroll a 95 win Astros team that has the best offense in the AL and the second best pitching in the AL. All the predictions of sweeps, asskickings, etc. It was unreal. Then the wonderful self loathing when the Astros curb stomped the Sox.

I guess they did get to celebrate that one 3 run HR in the third game of the series before the Astros polished them off 10 to fucking 1 in the fourth game.


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We had this conversation in that same thread. I don't think calling them Sleeping giants gives you 10 years. If you have said rip van winkle of sports then maybe I'd give you those 10 years. To your point you didn't put a timeline on it, but that mainly out of cowardice and or trolling.
Again, you completely misunderstand the point if you think 10 years was too long of a timeline. The very concept of a "sleeping giant" has a long time frame associated with it.

It's your choice though. You can either respond to the original post, even with the benefit of hindsight as at least one line item failed, or you can just continue to act like it was a "White Sox will win the World Series in 2024" thread if you want.

Ok... so since you've posted that they've declined significantly, lost all their talent, fired several managers and GMs, lost over 100 games consecutively and posted the highest loss total in baseball history.
Look man we both know what you were trying to say.
If it was trolling bravo. If not... it was a terrible thread.

So, you chose to not to respond to the post I actually made. I guess that ends the discussion.

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But the Palka and the Sleeping Giants threads might be the most ridiculous threads on this board.


The Astros/White Sox 2021 ALDS thread is pretty great. The Sox fans thought the Sox were going to steamroll a 95 win Astros team that has the best offense in the AL and the second best pitching in the AL. All the predictions of sweeps, asskickings, etc. It was unreal. Then the wonderful self loathing when the Astros curb stomped the Sox.

I guess they did get to celebrate that one 3 run HR in the third game of the series before the Astros polished them off 10 to fucking 1 in the fourth game.


Did you know your liberal infested city is literally infested with the worst cockroach problem in the country? Good luck with that. I will give Houston credit for one thing; they were really really hospitalble to us by alowing us to party on their field in 2005. I dont remember the occasion, do you?

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We had this conversation in that same thread. I don't think calling them Sleeping giants gives you 10 years. If you have said rip van winkle of sports then maybe I'd give you those 10 years. To your point you didn't put a timeline on it, but that mainly out of cowardice and or trolling.
Again, you completely misunderstand the point if you think 10 years was too long of a timeline. The very concept of a "sleeping giant" has a long time frame associated with it.

It's your choice though. You can either respond to the original post, even with the benefit of hindsight as at least one line item failed, or you can just continue to act like it was a "White Sox will win the World Series in 2024" thread if you want.

Ok... so since you've posted that they've declined significantly, lost all their talent, fired several managers and GMs, lost over 100 games consecutively and posted the highest loss total in baseball history.
Look man we both know what you were trying to say.
If it was trolling bravo. If not... it was a terrible thread.

So, you chose to not to respond to the post I actually made. I guess that ends the discussion.

How long of a timeline do you get to "biggest sleeping giant in sports"? I mean in all sports. 20 years? How long does that simmer before someone can say "uhhhhh, not sleeping giants". 50 years?

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It’s not “believing” that Williams is a bust, it’s just recognizing that he’s fucking terrible. I do not “believe” that water is wet, I simply interpret reality and make an obvious determination. If you watch him play and think there is any outcome other than failure in store you are the definition of delusional.


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Yes I am the delusional one here.

You base your opinion off of 4 NFL games as a rookie. (Dont give me that USC bullshit.)

I am saying no one knows really right now if Williams will be good or bad. There have been some positives. There have been some negatives.

You will only point out the negatives.

Yet I am the delusional one.

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Yes I am the delusional one here.

You base your opinion off of 4 NFL games as a rookie. (Dont give me that USC bullshit.)

I am saying no one knows really right now if Williams will be good or bad. There have been some positives. There have been some negatives.

You will only point out the negatives.

Yet I am the delusional one.

Maybe Williams is just a sleeping giant and aometime in the next couple decades we'll see how close he was.

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Yes I am the delusional one here.

You base your opinion off of 4 NFL games as a rookie. (Dont give me that USC bullshit.)

I am saying no one knows really right now if Williams will be good or bad. There have been some positives. There have been some negatives.

You will only point out the negatives.

Yet I am the delusional one.

What are the positives? He’s elusive? That’s about the only one I can come up with. Other than that it’s all bad or mediocre and certainly nothing else has stood out at all. His arm is dogshit, he takes forever to make a decision, he plays short, he’s not that good of a runner (I guess average? Look at Daniels if you want to see a good runner) and I think he’s alienated DJ Moore and lord knows how many other vets.


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We had this conversation in that same thread. I don't think calling them Sleeping giants gives you 10 years. If you have said rip van winkle of sports then maybe I'd give you those 10 years. To your point you didn't put a timeline on it, but that mainly out of cowardice and or trolling.
Again, you completely misunderstand the point if you think 10 years was too long of a timeline. The very concept of a "sleeping giant" has a long time frame associated with it.

It's your choice though. You can either respond to the original post, even with the benefit of hindsight as at least one line item failed, or you can just continue to act like it was a "White Sox will win the World Series in 2024" thread if you want.

Ok... so since you've posted that they've declined significantly, lost all their talent, fired several managers and GMs, lost over 100 games consecutively and posted the highest loss total in baseball history.
Look man we both know what you were trying to say.
If it was trolling bravo. If not... it was a terrible thread.

So, you chose to not to respond to the post I actually made. I guess that ends the discussion.

How long of a timeline do you get to "biggest sleeping giant in sports"? I mean in all sports. 20 years? How long does that simmer before someone can say "uhhhhh, not sleeping giants". 50 years?

I mean, when "new ownership" and "new stadium" are on the list of things that need to happen it's not 3 years.

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In fairness you cited both the existing stadium and the hypothetical new stadium as strengths.

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A new stadium and new ownership making a huge difference doesn’t seen exclusive to the Sox.


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That first round picks should be compared to the "best of all time" and nothing else.


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