He's still around.

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When I moved back to Illinois in the late 1990s and was playing golf every weekend somewhere out in the "collar counties" before GolfNow became a thing for solo golfers, Dave was the voice of sanity on Saturday morning.

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"When people want their version of the truth, they go find it, no matter how baseless their beliefs." -- Ken Rosenthal

The production values on that show were outstanding.

For a few years in the early 2000's, that was highest rated show by percentage that the Score had.

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My memory was it being Zack, Drinky, and Holmes. They were doing Saturday mornings and additional fill-ins as a regular group for a few months. I vaguely recall new headshots for the three of them together, probably seen on a station MySpace account then, being another subtle hint of this being an attempt for more prominence down the line. It didn’t last long… after those few months, they never did shows together again.

Interestingly, Holmes discussed this on his House of L pod when he had Matty on a few years ago. Apparently, Matt had no showed one of those early shifts, which contributed to a rift between the two of them then.

the supposed cub/baseball savant had no clue about the repercussions of the cubs calling up ss/2b vazquez. told us that counsell earns $8 million a year to decide. can't fellate a DFA, so, no use in attempting to answer.

m&h told him "great stuff", as they bid him farewell for telling us nothing.

great stuff

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Wow, coming up big with the correction. Thanks. Leery being the third one instead of Paruch makes the whole thing funnier somehow. Mitch would try anything.

Also funnier is not that the trio failed due to its own badness but because Drinky just couldn't be bothered to show up.

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bruce with the clutch networking. texted the host of mlb network radio show around 1130 and told the host that steele would pitch on tuesday.

Levine got annihilated by callers on his White Sox views.

The Score might need to pull the plug on him how racist he talks. Saying how unsafe the current ballpark neighborhood is due to how it's changed with people living there now that are different from 20 years ago.

I find his existence in the industry kind of gross - the thought that he has floundered around this long, never having a take that wasn't in line with ownership/management (at that time), is both a testament to him being ok with working crappy hours AND radio stations tolerating his nothingness because he (I'm assuming) doesn't demand much of a salary to do so.

I only heard about him for years (as I never listened to ESPN 1000), then obviously got to have him jammed in my ears non-stop when his ship docked at WSCR. He's just a big nothing, and parading him around as some sort of "insider" is insulting to the listeners. I'd wish him to the cornfields where Shuster and Finfer now frolic, but it doesn't really matter .... for the first time ever I am not turning on The Score (at ALL from 9a-5:30a, and very occasionally (at this point) when the confused Mully is yammering with the insufferable Haugh).

All that said, Bruce sucks.

Levine's key points to why Chicago needs a new White Sox park seem to change each Score appearance. His latest argument that the current park is fine but there are too many bad guys living in the neighborhood making it too dangerous for fans is a stance not many in the media would be dumb enough to say on the air.

He's an unskilled speaker who is getting braver and braver in his Jerry shilling weasel talk. He's definitely an interesting listen.

I didn't hear him this weekend, but did hear him criticize the neighborhood last week.

Better be careful with talk like that.

On another note, why do the White Sox need a new stadium? I get the park isn't great because it doesn't show the city in the backdrop, etc. but I've never had an issue going or watching there.

They don't. It does everything you need a baseball stadium to do. Getting there couldn't be easier, ingress and egress are fine, and the bad seats have all been renovated out. It's functionally a 20-year-old stadium.

Everyone has fallen in love with what the Atlanta Braves did by moving out to the suburbs and building a strip mall around a publicly financed stadium. It's never Wrigleyville or Yawkey Way that they cite, it's always the Braves and their simulacrum of a neighborhood, with places called "Good Times Social" or "The Spot: an American Bar and Grill." Of course, the White Sox could have all that in their current location simply by converting some of their oceans of parking lots into such buildings. They know this because they're doing that exact same thing for the Bulls right now. But if they can get public money to do it all from scratch in a marginally better location, why not?

I don't think there's a problem with not being able to see the skyline from the grandstand. You can't see the skyline from the Wrigley grandstand either. You see it as you cross the Dan Ryan coming off the Red Line. Then you see it again as you're going to your seats. The ramps have little instagram landings where you can stand and get your picture taken with the skyline behind you. You get a good look at everything, say "that's cool," then go to your seat and watch the game.

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We had probably about half the league try to build stadiums in cool urban areas or attempt to create cool urban areas around new stadiums. It would be interesting if we're actually returning to the mall park era. Especially since Comiskey was essentially the last mall park, until they built those stadiums for the Braves and Rangers.

Gotta have dual malls, both outside and inside. And a hotel.

Do you mean the first pair of Braves and Rangers stadiums directly after Comiskey, or the new ones from a few years ago? lol. I can't believe Turner Field only lasted 20 years. The new park has already had 40% of Turner Field's lifespan.

Anyway, I don't think we're going to see any mass return to suburban-style baseball stadiums, no. The Rangers are a special case because they've been 30 miles out of Dallas since the day they got there and for whatever reason they think that's cool and good. They think paradise is the parking lot. But I don't think there's anyone else who can move toward that. The Royals want to replace Kauffman Stadium (which New Comiskey is a copy of) with yet another Hip Urban Ballpark downtown, and I don't know how far into the future the Brewers are looking, but you've gotta believe they're angling to get downtown, too.

I'd love to see some of the parking lots redeveloped. There's just so much parking that isn't necessary when you have three train stations a block or two away (and could have a fourth for the Southwest if you got creative). But that was the idea of the park when it was designed for the suburbs: get 'em on parking fees, get 'em on concessions, and send 'em home. Then they plopped it into an urban environment that sucks ass to drive to. Is it the most perfect location in Chicago? Probably not. But it's where the White Sox have played for over a century and it can be made to work.

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Didn't the Brewers consider going downtown when the current park was being planned and decide that wouldn't be appealing to the many fans they have in the WOW counties and places like Green Bay who think the city of Milwaukee has only been inhabited by Jeffrey Dahmer and black people since about 1967 and vastly preferred the Dodger/Kauffman stadium "in the city but not of it" setup? I'd think that still applies there.

I think that was part of it. I think they also just couldn't get a parcel of land downtown or on the Summerfest grounds and had to settle for the County Stadium parking lot. It was also just logistics: Milwaukee is a city with negligible public transit and the Brewers need to draw from outstate, and they're all driving, so they have to be accommodated with ample parking. To this day there's no reasonable way to walk to a Brewers game.

I think things may have changed enough to where fans might be amenable to a downtown stadium when the time comes (which is probably sooner than we think). There seems to be more city of Milwaukee boosterism in the air than there's been in a while. However, it could well be that the people who like Milwaukee really like it, but are outnumbered 2:1 by people who still really hate it.

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The Brewers have also leaned into tailgating

would be better if they leaned into a wood chipper

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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typical am show..

stepped all over esposito in regards (how can you correct someone who is correct?) to bellinger's 2024 injuries and then made eye contact with bochy while performing oratory skills upon him. told me that nico and cody were admirable, playing through injuries. nico's injury resulted in soft contact. must have the same injury for 2 seasons.

Levine starts the show right off the bat that Bellinger and Hoerner are victims due to their injuries was odd even for the king of all shills.

i think it's bruce's M.O.

look at page 1 of this thread, he did the exact same with rizzo in 2021.

the great Nico had numbers almost identical to his career averages. He's just one of those grindy second basemen that people always overrate. Bernstein would hate him if he weren't a corporate partner.

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Look at the 2nd Basemen around MLB. Sorry to say, Nico is solid in comparison.

For the sake of argument, say Moncada stays healthy. He'd be a legit above average 2nd baseman.

Reason #126 why baseball is dying.

so were Tommy Herr and David Ekstein

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
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David Eckstein was an inside joke when he was playing. Why do you think JR was universally laughed at when he brought his name up?

During the C&J/W&S crosstalk it was mentioned a Bruce Levine sound bite was missing at the station. Literally seconds later he texted in that he'd be willing to do it again. His own radio station isn't his preferred one to listen to.