Your basic premise is to troll about everything. You just stated the guy who is 21 before the season started should be evaluated the same as a person that turns 23 after the season started which is stupid. And is nothing more than a stupid hypothetical which pertains to absolutely nothing in particular. And please do not elaborate that stupid point again because it'd irrelevant to my point.

Hopefully you can "comprehend" this question.

Why would it be unfair to evaluate and measure Caleb Williams "progress as a player to that of CJ Stroud currently?

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You seem confused. The ages I posted were all the age of the person on September 1st of the year they were drafted. So no, there was no comparison between a guy who is 21 who turns 23. It's all comparing all of them at the same age.


I don't think anyone could comprehend whatever that was.

I'd compare them both as rookies but as CJ Stroud is proving, rookie stats only mean so much.

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The fact that you would only look at what both did as Rookies is part of the problem here. And also illustrative of the point which i happened to effectively be making here. Why should they ONLY be comped as rookie players when they are essentially the very same age? They are only like a month apart.

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CJ Stroud is playing worse this year than he did last year so if you want to compare them at the same age that is fine too. They've got the same passer rating this year.

Stop with this game where the criteria changes every 5 seconds looking for whatever criteria fits you the best now. You have recently wanted to compare only the last 6 games of Fields in Chicago with what Williams has done now.

Still though, Williams isn't old for a rookie.

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OK let's compare them then. CJ Stroud is much more accomplished as an NFL player than Caleb Williams. And much further along in his development though they are very same age essentially. It's actually yet one other thing which should give cause for pause where Caleb is concerned with respect to his being a "Generational Talent"

"Relative Age" matters in sports and always has. You might believe it does but again you're nothing more than an internet troll whose "beliefs" blow with the wins depending on whom you're arguing with on any given day.

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This seals it, you're just plain dumb. Brick isn't comparing anyone, he's proving to you that a 22-year old rookie QB is not relatively "old" for a drafted prospect at that position because most QB prospects taken in the first round over the last decade are 22 years old or older.

How is it this hard for you to understand?

Hey Caddyshack. AKA Juicy. AKA Useful +diot. AKA Rightwing Stooge. AKA Test Dummy Durango. AKA Resident Buffoon. AKA Stalkinghorse Jones. AKA Lapdog Notes. If there was ever a time for someone as stupid as you to "sit this one due to lack of knowledge " now would be that time dumbass.

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Most QBs drafted in the first round over the last decade were 22 or older, therefore a QB who is 22 during his rookie season is not "old for a rookie". It's that simple. You've never dealt well with being proven wrong.

Nice try Caddyshack. It won't work. Stick to perusing around "The greens" in Golf Carts dumbass.

I know you work from the premise that you must back you guy" no matter what. But this shouldn't be one of those times stupid!

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Stroud and Williams are playing roughly the same this year at the same age though.

Age and experience both matter. There are things that you only learn in pro sports by playing at that level. Throws that work in college don't work in the NFL. Rookie years are tough for everyone because of that.

Still though, Williams isn't old for a rookie. Do you finally understand the numbers I posted?

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This is how dumb both you are resident stooge happen to be with respect to this. You both are arguing that it is dumb to compare players that are exactly the same age.

And as far as the "old for a Rookie 1st Rounder goes, that will be debunked "fairly quickly" as well.

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It's not dumb to compare players at the same age. Experience matters too. If Michael Penix doesn't play until he is 26 it won't be completely fair to compare him to Caleb Williams with 2 or 3 seasons of NFL football played.

I mean, it's just a fact. There isn't anything to debunk. The numbers are clear that 22 is not old for a first round QB.

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Caleb turned 23 in the calendar year of his rookie season. Thus his comp is with other 23 year olds that are rookies. Not 22 year olds.

And the majority of 1st rd draft picks these days (since 2020) have not been 23 years old and older.

And there is a very good reason for it.

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Can you refute the fact that most first-round QBs in the last decade were 22 or older?

Statement "23 is old for a rookie"

Rebuttal from YOUR resident jackass "23 is not old for a Rookie"

Followed up by this question from YOUR resident jackass
"Hey when are you going to tell us the number of QBs 22 years or older the past 10 years"?



Stupid motherfucker doesn't even realized that his question doesn't even pertain to his original point. Nor Bricks. Or mine. Dumbass

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Funny how he now seems to understand the idea of age adjusted production.

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I always did. It's just a dumb thing to care about for teams when most of the league is within a year of you.

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Caleb Williams was 22 when the Bears drafted him, he was 22 when the season began, and was 22 for most of the season. He is not "old for a rookie" if most first round QBs drafted in the last decade were at least 22 years old like he was.

Hey Caddyshack. That's not how Sports work dumbass.

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Just to recap. You think that it is "dumb" to compare Stroud and Caleb Williams as players. Even though they are the same age. Ok

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No. I am happy to compare them at this age. Turns out they are playing equally well.

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As Caleb's and his 7 game losing streak as a starting QB can firmly attest

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You guys realize Doc is just trolling you, don't you?

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FTFY.

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He's not, tho.

Justin Fields 9-5 over his last 14 games
Caleb Williams 4-10 over his last 14 games. I rest my case

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don't forget to add that Fields has been benched and is carrying a clip board in his last few games

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last few? He's way under 50% of the offensive snaps for the year and they said they'd welcome him back next year as a backup

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