I remember before last season there were arguments going on here with people saying the Sox will lose 110 games, and others saying how hard it would be to lose 100 again. Is it time to start the over/under losing 120 again? Look at what the 2025 opening day lineup could be.....

Teel is the Red Sox 4th ranked prospect. (25th overall in MLB)
Montgomery is 5th. (54th overall)
Meidroth is 11th.
Gonzalez is 14th.

White Sox now have 6 Top 100 prospects.

Getting a lot of positive reaction so far to this trade.

Will be interesting to see

Moncada, Kopech and such were highly regarded too.

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The White Sox got good value back from the Red Sox for Crochet. Then again, they thought they got good value for Sale.

Teel will spend a month in Charlotte "working on his framing" and then come up and split the catcher/DH job with Quero. Montgomery is probably ticketed for Kannapolis or Winston-Salem.

The Red Sox should be able to extend Crochet, tacking on a 4-year extension with an opt-out after 2027. So they will have a three year window with him if his arm doesn't fall off.

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Quero, Shultz and Hagen Smith are all there as well, if you put stock in those sorts of things

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I have a feeling none of them will ever match what Garrett Crochet goes on to do. Still, I get it. The Sox are looking for their huge trade that changes their fortunes, I dunno anymore I can’t bear to follow this shit like I used to. Never heard of any of these Caller Bobs.

Some of these guys won't work out, having 2 catchers probably means a rotation and 1B and DH//OF

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Quero is more of a bat first type of guy. I think, assuming he works out, that's your future first baseman/DH.

I've been burned too many times to be enthusiastic, but they did get more for Crochet than they did for Cease, which is odd.

Even though Getz had a prized trade asset he had to be dealing from a position of weakness how disrespected he and his organization are among the league. The Miguel Vargas trade stench couldn't of helped.

At his craziest Bruce Levine was predicting the White Sox would get a couple of choice players off rosters and prospects for Crochet.

I'm sure that will be the case. Anyway, I'd bet on it every time. But I guess the question you have to ask is, what was Crochet doing for you?

This is just a terrible organization. It's almost driven me to completely ignore baseball.

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As good as Crochet was, I think he is still severely underrated with lots of growth potential. Once he gets comfortable with the work load, I think the first half Crochet will be the full season Crochet.

This was the appropriate time to sell, but the Sox sold low, despite the apparently decent return

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Back in the day, a great catcher was the soul of a winning team. This is the only way this trade works out. I don't have much doubt Crochet is built to be a front line workhorse starter for many years. The only guy who wasn't shocked that 7th inning Crotchet was as good as 1st inning Crochet was ...Crochet.

Is Teel the Moncada of this trade?

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Did we fleece Theo on another trade?

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If Teel was the #1 prospect in baseball then he could be.

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Should we store this with your “ Luis Robert is going to win an MVP” prediction?

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Doesn't matter. If they are superstars, the White Sox will not sign them to a huge contract. Best you can hope for is they have a couple of ok seasons and cheap Jerry tries to sign them long term, hoping they turn into superstars.

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I’m very woke on any Boston prospect being ranked highly given their regional over-representation in sports media. They’ve spent decades colonizing legacy establishments to surreptitiously push a narrative that will disproportionately benefit their favored teams at the expense of the rubes in flyover land. “Eh guyz, you see we got da best prospect in baseball for Sale? Big strong Cuban kid. Looks like he was in Menudo.” No, fuck that, we acquired a head case and a lazy ass communist in exchange for a World Series champion, Cy Young winning, Triple Crown Gold Glove pitcher.

Any RedSox prospect rating would be divided by 10% of the square root of that player’s most frequent positional number to generate his TVANEF - his true value after New England fuckery.

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you still think Robert is going to win an MVP?

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notice there are no MLB players (or even slated for 2025 MLB arrival) in the return. Boston has a logjam of position players that were on the block, including Triston Casas (25 years old), and I'm guessing if the Sox were willing to spend on MLB payroll they could've gotten more talent. It's not like adding Masataka Yoshida (31 and 3yr/$56M remaining) would block at bats and you could potentially flip them later.

We seem to be collecting Catchers at the moment. We trade a SP and not receive a high regarded Pitching prospect in return.

Why wouldn't I? He's entering his prime years and already has a gold glove at a premium position, a 38 hr year, and has ascended in SB every year. The best is yet to come, especially if he goes to a winning team with a culture that sets him straight. It's more irrational to think last year is what he is

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Pitching is the strength of their minor leagues. I wasn't paying attention until yesterday but the sox have the top two highest rated LH SP in the entire MiLB

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I heard Jim Callis interviewed this morning about the trade and the prospect return. He thinks that Teel will be a very good defensive catcher who can hit at least 12 HR and maybe up to 20 a year with a solid average.

I think a solid comp is Matt Wieters, who underperformed expectations as a top draft choice. When his OPS+ was in the 90s, he was a 1.5-2 WAR starter. The couple of years where he had 20 HR power and got his OPS+ closer to 110, he was a 4-5 WAR guy. Teel will probably be closer to the solid 1.5 WAR guy who has one season where he goes on a tear for 50-60 games and jacks up his stats. That would be a #6/7 hitter on a good team.

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then that's a terrible return and heavily dependent on montgomery

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They should of salary dumped in this trade.

Well Montgomery is a first round pick. And the White Sox have done so well with first and second round outfielders...

I would have held out for Marcelo Mayer straight up. Yes he's also a shortstop but he's also ticketed for AAA this year so they can delay his service time start. Colson can move to either 3B or 2B depending on his arm.

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