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He essentially had 2 Rookies as his #1 and #2 on the depth chart. Which only means that he was REALLY sold on Caleb being a "Generational Talent"


I thought you said 23 was too old to be a rookie QB in the NFL? Make up your mind.


Comprehension not a strong suit I see..


Clarity is not yours.

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How about when he (allegedly) took a lesser offer for Fields so that he could prioritize Fields’ desires & happiness over his actual fucking job of improving the Bears?


That backfired on both of them. Fields still sucks and Poles gets a worst draft pick then what he spent on a punter.

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Juiced wrote:
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He essentially had 2 Rookies as his #1 and #2 on the depth chart. Which only means that he was REALLY sold on Caleb being a "Generational Talent"


I thought you said 23 was too old to be a rookie QB in the NFL? Make up your mind.


Comprehension not a strong suit I see..


Clarity is not yours.


Comprehension needs no "clarification".

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How about when he (allegedly) took a lesser offer for Fields so that he could prioritize Fields’ desires & happiness over his actual fucking job of improving the Bears?




I don’t do the victory lap thing here for the most part but I’ve been arguing with Nas about this dude for a few years now. It started with the signing that didn’t pan out (Ogunjobie I think).. then came the Claypool trade (after he says building thru the draft is priority).. and so on.


My last argument with Nas about this was over keeping Eberflus and how that’s going to fuck up the locker room at some point.. then the locker room starts going on the coaches and Nas claimed that’s the players thing not the coach.


It cracks me up after all the evidence shows he can’t do the job and is in way over his head that people still like Poles and think he’s not a problem. Sure Warrens an idiot, the McCaskeys suck and need to go.. but all these throngs are true at the same time.


It’s sad that someone literally needs to die before this has a shot at changing.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juiced wrote:
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He essentially had 2 Rookies as his #1 and #2 on the depth chart. Which only means that he was REALLY sold on Caleb being a "Generational Talent"


I thought you said 23 was too old to be a rookie QB in the NFL? Make up your mind.


Comprehension not a strong suit I see..


Clarity is not yours.


Comprehension needs no "clarification".


Clearly, if you think Fields is an NFL starting QB.

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Juiced wrote:
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He essentially had 2 Rookies as his #1 and #2 on the depth chart. Which only means that he was REALLY sold on Caleb being a "Generational Talent"


I thought you said 23 was too old to be a rookie QB in the NFL? Make up your mind.


Comprehension not a strong suit I see..


Clarity is not yours.


Comprehension needs no "clarification".


Clearly, if you think Fields is an NFL starting QB.


Remember when I asked you to put bread on it and you ducked it? Told me everything that I needed to know about your "beliefs" :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:

Remember when I asked you to put bread on it and you ducked it? Told me everything that I needed to know about your "beliefs" :lol: :lol:


I'm done with your stupidity. Keep posting nonsense. I will happily ignore all your posts.

Since you've been back the board has entered the death spiral era. Good job!

What dies off first. This board or 670 The Score?

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Juiced wrote:
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Remember when I asked you to put bread on it and you ducked it? Told me everything that I needed to know about your "beliefs" :lol: :lol:


I'm done with your stupidity. Keep posting nonsense. I will happily ignore all your posts.

Since you've been back the board has entered the death spiral era. Good job!

What dies off first. This board or 670 The Score?


Dude your presence around here doesn't make this a "better place". Never has and never will. You're nothing more than another in a long line of pile on dopes that do nothing but shit up every thread with their bullshit antics. You're essentially Ballpark Frank with a smaller post count

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Of course the board sucks. There's a thread about Walgreen's parking lot, for chrissake.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Of course the board sucks. There's a thread about Walgreen's parking lot, for chrissake.




This board hasn’t changed in the 10 or so years I’ve been here. Not saying that’s good or bad.. just saying it’s the same place it’s always been.



Then again I don’t post as much as some of you and I’m rarely outside of the ‘Bears’ forum

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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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I'm sure it sucked 10 years ago too. But that isn't the point. It's the sifting through the muck and the shit and the garbage looking for the oddly misshapen gem. It's LTG escaping from a straitjacket. It's JORR the religious atheist. It's Nas the QB and Presidential 'expert'...#Eisenhowerpoles


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I'm sure it sucked 10 years ago too. But that isn't the point. It's the sifting through the muck and the shit and the garbage looking for the oddly misshapen gem. It's LTG escaping from a straitjacket. It's JORR the religious atheist. It's Nas the QB and Presidential 'expert'...#Eisenhowerpoles




So.. what’s changed?



Outside of losing posters over the years and not really gaining new ones.

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I dunno. People say it used to be great. Maybe there was some great threads about Telephone Sam putting a pineapple on a burger.


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I'm sure it sucked 10 years ago too. But that isn't the point. It's the sifting through the muck and the shit and the garbage looking for the oddly misshapen gem. It's LTG escaping from a straitjacket. It's JORR the religious atheist. It's Nas the QB and Presidential 'expert'...#Eisenhowerpoles




So.. what’s changed?



Outside of losing posters over the years and not really gaining new ones.

We got He/she/them.

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Fire him, worst Bears GM ever not named Phil Emery. An empty suit and he needs more time for podcast appearances and crying.

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Firing him makes the HC job more attractive as well, provided they’re not shopping in the Brian Flores aisle.

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fire him and kevin warren is taking over that job, which, at least to me, appears to have been his plan all along. Then, you will have Kevin's Angels in charge of the stadium rebuild, at which they will fail and he will blame them while keeping his job.

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The early 4th and one failure exposed the failed approach to roster building we have seen this season.

It always starts with the failure to address the interior of the offensive line, they know they cannot run up the middle because Poles went with an undersized center he got on the cheap in free agency, he also whiffed at guard in free agency so you have guys that you cannot depend on to get movement in the middle of the line.

Poles did not bring in a bigger back that can get you a yard on fourth and one, he also traded away a proven RB, so you have a speed back in Swift who cannot run up the middle, and you cannot run up the middle anyway, so you are limited to outside runs.

Poles arrogantly drafted an injured guy from Yale, the one consistent thing we have learned about Poles is that he thinks he is smarter than the rest of the league and can turn rangy small school guys into starting left tackles, so you trot a dude out that did not play at all in the pre season due to a pre-existing injury and who looks woefully unprepared for the physicality of the NFL. The worst part of this is that you kept Borom who you apparently know cannot play which forced you to go with an unprepared rookie, exposing your potential franchise QB to a career ending blind side hit.

However, the most troubling think about the play call was that the handpicked coach you brought in to work with your QB is so dumb that he calls an outside pitch play where you run behind your rookie LT instead of behind your RT who at least seems to be able to run block?

That play told you all you need to know about the losing mindset of the Bears organization.


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 Post subject: Re: Fire Ryan Poles
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Hopefully this end to the season is enough to convince them that Poles needs to be fired. But what dolphin said is worrisome and definitely something I could see the Bears doing. Instead of hiring someone that can do the job, lets give it to the asshat that cannot seem to get a stadium deal figured out and let him make GM decisions.

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fire him and kevin warren is taking over that job, which, at least to me, appears to have been his plan all along. Then, you will have Kevin's Angels in charge of the stadium rebuild, at which they will fail and he will blame them while keeping his job.


If Kevin Warren becomes the GM, they can go ahead and fold the franchise.

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Seems that Warren will hire the next HC, the new HC will have significantly different ideas on roster construction than Poles and that will create a rather difficult environment for Poles.

The new HC will likely want at least three new starters on the o line and D line, cannot see Poles pulling that off given the fact that he has not shown any ability to complete such a task.

The franchise desperately needs an experienced guy who will get rid of the collection of underperforming whiners on the roster.


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not for nothing but Sweaty Teddy is also still sitting in on things with the organization

the suck levels are rich and layered

but, give me good lines (not even great, especially in the OL) and I can guarantee you above .500 teams every single year

and its not that Poles hasn't attempted to do that, he just is clueless. There are too many very big misses to not see that he can't evaluate OL

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not for nothing but Sweaty Teddy is also still sitting in on things with the organization


That is crazy.

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Though I think Poles has done a decent job as GM, there are 2 reasons (one I stated during the offseason) as to why you have to whack him. 3 possibly.
1. Drafting Caleb Williams
2. GMs shouldn't get redos on rebuilds
3. New GM should have the opportunity to hire the coach whom they want to hire. If you don't fire Poles this offseason and allow him to hire his own coach, then whomever they hire after next season will have to inherent the previous GMs coach. How many good GMs will want the job with this being the case.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Though I think Poles has done a decent job as GM, there are 2 reasons (one I stated during the offseason) as to why you have to whack him. 3 possibly.
1. Drafting Caleb Williams
2. GMs shouldn't get redos on rebuilds
3. New GM should have the opportunity to hire the coach whom they want to hire. If you don't fire Poles this offseason and allow him to hire his own coach, then whomever they hire after next season will have to inherent the previous GMs coach. How many good GMs will want the job with this being the case.



Doesn't surprise me that you don't list the failure of Poles to build an offensive and defensive line or his lack of evaluating coaches.

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Juiced wrote:
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Though I think Poles has done a decent job as GM, there are 2 reasons (one I stated during the offseason) as to why you have to whack him. 3 possibly.
1. Drafting Caleb Williams
2. GMs shouldn't get redos on rebuilds
3. New GM should have the opportunity to hire the coach whom they want to hire. If you don't fire Poles this offseason and allow him to hire his own coach, then whomever they hire after next season will have to inherent the previous GMs coach. How many good GMs will want the job with this being the case.



Doesn't surprise me that you don't list the failure of Poles to build an offensive and defensive line or his lack of evaluating coaches.


Those are just more of your "excuses" for Caleb Williams absolutely sucking ass. If Poles is going to be fired, the primary reason is because he missed on his evaluation of "Generational Talent" Caleb. Not any of the other gibberish which you just stated.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juiced wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Though I think Poles has done a decent job as GM, there are 2 reasons (one I stated during the offseason) as to why you have to whack him. 3 possibly.
1. Drafting Caleb Williams
2. GMs shouldn't get redos on rebuilds
3. New GM should have the opportunity to hire the coach whom they want to hire. If you don't fire Poles this offseason and allow him to hire his own coach, then whomever they hire after next season will have to inherent the previous GMs coach. How many good GMs will want the job with this being the case.



Doesn't surprise me that you don't list the failure of Poles to build an offensive and defensive line or his lack of evaluating coaches.


Those are just more of your "excuses" for Caleb Williams absolutely sucking ass. If Poles is going to be fired, the primary reason is because he missed on his evaluation of "Generational Talent" Caleb. Not any of the other gibberish which you just stated.


Building an offensive and defensive line is not gibberish and should not be ignored. Wow, your football thoughts are on par with Biden's mental health.

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Juiced wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Juiced wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Though I think Poles has done a decent job as GM, there are 2 reasons (one I stated during the offseason) as to why you have to whack him. 3 possibly.
1. Drafting Caleb Williams
2. GMs shouldn't get redos on rebuilds
3. New GM should have the opportunity to hire the coach whom they want to hire. If you don't fire Poles this offseason and allow him to hire his own coach, then whomever they hire after next season will have to inherent the previous GMs coach. How many good GMs will want the job with this being the case.



Doesn't surprise me that you don't list the failure of Poles to build an offensive and defensive line or his lack of evaluating coaches.


Those are just more of your "excuses" for Caleb Williams absolutely sucking ass. If Poles is going to be fired, the primary reason is because he missed on his evaluation of "Generational Talent" Caleb. Not any of the other gibberish which you just stated.


Building an offensive and defensive line is not gibberish and should not be ignored. Wow, your football thoughts are on par with Biden's mental health.

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Check out the rather hypocritical Gif Juiced as he gives both the Oline and Coaches a pass in his assessment of Justin Fields however
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Hawk if your eyes told you that line was any less than average you should see an optometrist. I will readily admit that the center was pretty bad. But ultimately Fields had time to move around and hit targets. But everyone knew once he broke out he's running and he got collapsed on as a result. His line wasn't the problem, he had time.


Baloney. The only good lineman was the right tackle. The truth really is that the first half of the year, the injuries were really pretty bad and the center position and the two guards were weak, very weak particularly in the first half of the year. I don't think by the way that it is fair to try and compare Fields to classic pocket quarterbacks in terms of sacks. YOU IGNORE AND NOONE MENTIONS the terrific runs that FIELDS made for first downs and yes touchdowns. These happened frequently after he went through some progressions, the pocket broke down and FIELDS made somethng out of nothing.

For you and the Williams cult to really say that the Bear's was somehow at least :"AVERAGE" is really weird. That opinion is really not factual.IF you love Williams for whatever reason, that is certainly your perogative. If he is successful, good for him. But don't put Fields down and do things like lying about the worth of the offensive line.


If it really was just the line play and coaching then why did the entire league pass on Fields as their starter and go with guys like Donald and Lock instead?

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