Enough... We must find new GM/COACH. Go now!

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Here’s another one…the only thing I’d disagree with is that this defense was good under Flus. Offenses controlled them at will.

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"The Bears defense isn't below average."

"This stat you used to proclaim Caleb Williams is terrible actually shows they're the worst in the league recently."

"Yeah OK but they only gave up X amount of points to this team recently..."

Totally honest.

During the Bears 10 game losing streak Caleb Williams "orchaestrated" an offense that avg a "robust" 14 ppg, but it is out of bounds for anyone to think that the Bears offense isn't the REAL problem.
Can't make this shit up!

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The defense that was 8th best in ppg allowed at the time that Eberflus was fired was labeled by this clown to be a problem. Again you just can't make this shit up!

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What are you responding to?

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The statement which absolves Caleb Williams off any blame.

And the defense being "controlled" by opposing offenses is silly given that they were 8th best in points allowed while he was coach. Which means that opposing offenses were not "controlling" them for the most part.

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Where in this post is there anything that has to do with Caleb Williams?

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But #Bears fans, this dumpster fire is all Caleb’s fault and he is a bust!

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Reading that Poles will be back which is the usual approach George has taken with his GM's, keeping a failed GM on for one more year so that he can piss away more resources chasing one year fix it players is beyond stupid, but when your owner is the NFL's village idiot what do you expect.

Not only back but reading he’ll be extended to align his contract with the new coach.

This organization is a joke. Get read for Coach Brian Flores.

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That would be the height of stupidity. The guy is a disaster and they’re going to double down.

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I think Ryan Poles has been dead man walking since Matt Eberflus got fired. This is agents and front offices putting bullshit out there in the media jockeying for position after Black Monday.

The biggest question is Cincinnati and what happens if they miss the playoffs. Will Mike Brown pay two head coaches at the same time? It is very hard to say. Candidates will take a pay cut to work with Joe Burrow, it’s just too much of a career maker to pass up. That does as much to incentivize Brown to cut ties with Zac Taylor as anything.

from Alebrt Breer:

The biggest question that prime candidates have is about the role of team president Kevin Warren, and I think the McCaskey family is aware of that. To that end, GM Ryan Poles is set up to run point on the search, and I’m told it’s because that’s the way ownership wants it. Warren will have a seat at the table and a major say, of course. But Poles will, too, as the McCaskeys seek alignment on the football operations side.

I don't think there's any if about it. Nix will get a win over the KC second string and the whole Rube Goldberg machine that would get the Bengals into the playoffs will be broken.

More concerning than anything with Poles is that apparently coaching candidates are like "Kevin Warren, what's the whole deal with that blustery dipshit" and the DEI Bears are like "yeah, he's really great, he's in charge of hiring the next coach."

EDIT: yeah ShortTimeLurker beat me to it

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remember, sweaty teddy is still lurking about

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

I am not ruling out Ryan Poles getting a contract extension, but personally I think there is a greater chance both him and Kevin Warren get fired than anyone in the Bears organization getting new money.

It would be very on-brand for George and the board to commandeer a few insiders as mouthpieces putting out all this “we’re gonna stay the course, nobody is panicking” narrative just to keep everything at Halas Hall copacetic. Meanwhile they are readying the guillotines for Black Monday. Precisely how they let Matt Eberflus talk to the media as head coach less than an hour before they fired him. This is how they operate.

btw whoever it was that convinced them they needed to fire Matt Eberflus and promote Thomas Brown mid season (so clearly Kevin Warren) should be gone.

Not only did the Bears compromise on their century-long principle but the team got worse and the season spiraled from bad to outright existential disaster under Brown. You didn’t even get the on-field new coach bump and now fans are chanting “Sell the Team” on national TV while league commentators are indulging the idea.

This whole situation is so much closer to “fire everyone and never look back” than it is to “OK retool and come back next year”. Don’t let the media convince you otherwise.

Poles has been okish. Let him pick a new coach.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

His dogshit offensive line causing his #1OA quarterback to get sacked infinity-plus-one times has catalyzed some of the most tedious arguments in board history. He should be fired just for the posts.

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If you are going to fire Poles for anything, it should be for fallaciously believing that Caleb Williams was a "Generational QB" when clearly he isn't. He didn't even bother to work the #2 guy in the draft out because of it.

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This is the same thought process that kept Ryan Pace along too long. Then he traded Christian Darrisaw and Garrett Wilson for Justin Fields in a desperate bid to save his job and it set the franchise back immeasurably.

The Bears are going to end the season with an 11-game losing streak not because they had a burst of catastrophic injuries but because an idiot defensive back forgot a game was still going on and it mentally annihilated them. I'm not not blaming the GM.

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Poles has been in the chair for three seasons. No matter what happens Sunday, he’s already responsible for the longest and second longest losing streaks in franchise history.

That’s enough to merit firing.

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Would be such a bad move to have defensive HC. If the OC then does great with Caleb they will get plucked and you’re back to the carousel.

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There seems to be all kinds of positioning on the situation inside Halas Hall. Here is hoping Zimmerman is right.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-b ... gVovze7GTg

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Looking back at the last 3 drafts, this is pretty much the case. Poles has drafted some defensive guys that are solid NFL starters (Gervon Dexter, Kyler Gordon, Jaquan Brisker), some of whom are arguably above average. He even seems to have found a gem in Elijah Hicks late in the draft. But he also spent a 3rd round pick on an Ivy-league offensive lineman that cannot block. He picked Velus and Braxton Jones.

And while I think he absolutely had to take Caleb Williams (so he doesn't necessarily get as much credit or blame for the pick), he absolutely fleeced the Panthers in a trade that is still paying dividends. Then again he took less up front for Justin Fields so Justin wouldn't cry to the rest of the league.

So he might just be a "meh" executive, and the team can still win despite him, but he certainly isn't the captain of football industry type he was billed as. And I think we've seen this movie before where the lame duck executive starts making decisions to not get fired and is hiring a head coach who may or may not outlive his boss's term. If I recall correctly it was actually a double feature starring Phil Emery and Ryan Pace.

Probably should have cut Tyrique Stevenson after the Hail Maryland knowing what we know now, which is that it permanently broke everyone's brains exactly like the Double Doink did.

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Other than the flop that is Caleb Williams another reason that Poles should be shitcanned is as a GM you should not get a 2nd chance to do a rebuild or makeover of the roster. Once you strip a roster and remake it once, you shouldn't get a 2nd opportunity if it does not work.

It's definitely not as clear a decision as it appears because Poles did construct a "playoff caliber" defense even if his offense didn't hold up it's end of the deal.

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"Playoff caliber defense" come the fuck on, now. Stop it.