no one inside is talking to Kap. He's a jock sniffer and everyone knows it.

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My inside guy involved Herbstreit though.. Someone in the Bears organization talked to him about the "Generational One"

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Well Rodgers is his favorite QB..

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

No, I already said I'm basing it on the fact that every person who's ever done a study on it has reached the same conclusion, as well as the fact that many former players agree, including the best QB of all time. And it's funny that the same people who say sacks aren't a QB stat are responding to this with LOL of course the GOAT is better at avoiding sacks, thus proving my point. And that doesn't mean that every sack ever is the fault of the QB, it just means that in general sack rates across teams are primarily driven by quarterbacks and not offensive lines. This isn't really a controversial take, nobody is still arguing it outside of this message board. And if it was Jordan Love who took 70 sacks and not Caleb it likely wouldn't receive any pushback here either.

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We've all had eyes on Caleb's body language, his puzzling acts of disengagement, and his "Brand" statements for two years. After a poor year, YES, he should be first in the building and last to leave. Rewrite history.

I didn't fucking say it, he did.

Yeah, the Bears org is leaking negative shit to...Kirk Herbstreit...about their rookie QB they took 1.1 in the draft.

I responded to it showing that non-Brady QBs in your little list were blitzed a fuck ton more than Brady in the seasons you listed. The 2020 Patriots co-hort was blitzed on almost 50% of dropbacks compared to 32% for 2019 Brady.

You've proven nothing other than a unique ability to quote statistical metrics haphazardly and unconvincingly.

People like to smear the guy but what acts of disengagement?

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Yeah, teams would blitz a QB who is more prone to taking sacks than one who isn't. Brilliant work detective.

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What happened to the Eagles between last year and this year?

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So which is it...does defensive play overloading blocking impact QB sacks or is it all on the QB, you seem to be arguing both here, which isn't surprising that you'd find yourself arguing nonsense.

Bagent had a different type of offense, one that emphasized short quick passes. He didn't have all the tools so they utilized the ones he had. Had he started a full season, defenses would have very easily figured out how to defend against him.

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Even if they were, he was overwhelmingly positive about how good of a talent Williams is, and he either lied about the inside information or didn't do anything more than the standard cliche of being the first car in the parking lot and the last one to leave for quarterbacks.

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It's most likely someone that has been fired this year or is about to be. AKA Shane Waldren, Eberlose or T.Brown trying to make themselves look better for future job possibilities.

Funny they don't mention N.Davis, D.Moore, K.Allen, T.Edwards, J.Johnson, T.Stephenson, M.Sweat exc exc for not giving 100%

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I'm not arguing both, I already answered this question in the part of my post that you cut off when you quoted the above.

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"Nobody is arguing with this dogma promulgated by dorks cumming on spreadsheets" is really the definitive proof I needed, thank you. Your case [of sliders] is closed.

It's most likely that FF wants to use this as another chance to talk about how great Jordan Love is but he's just waiting for the correct time to point out that Love has a low rate of taking sacks. Then, boom, EPA/play comes right after that.

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No, I'm just amused that people are so quick to defend Caleb they are trying to argue something that's obviously true and not being argued anywhere still outside of this message board. And like I said, if Love was the one taking 70 sacks and not Caleb, nobody here would be arguing with me about this. I'm much more on team Caleb than most people, I think he's going to be a very good QB and think he has a lot of legitimate excuses for how this year played out. I don't agree with the idea he's lazy and entitled. But a big weakness of his game is taking sacks, that's pretty much undeniable if you watched Bears games this year and yet you have people trying to argue it. It's funny.

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Even you think he'll mostly solve it though.

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He could improve significantly at not taking sacks and it would still be well into the territory of “not really good enough”.

Also, you guys should really be careful what you wish for here. His accuracy past ten yards LOS was historically bad. He really does not quite know where the ball is going when it leaves his hand. A lot of these sacks were due to his pathological (and frankly ridiculous) aversion to turnovers, if you start seeing him throw the ball more instead of taking these sacks the interceptions are going to flow freely.

Especially with how little time he puts into the game and how much he blows off preparation.

Accuracy is by far his biggest issue. I'm not worried about his sacks nearly as much as I am his propensity to throw screens because it's the only pass seemingly that he is able to complete.

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A quarterback who can only run and throw screens. Hmm.

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Nah I know where you are "leaning" but the stats suggest otherwise.

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The Caleb sacks I am most interested in are the one where no one blocks the blitzer off the edge who hits him as soon as he gets the ball. Who is screwing those calls up? Is it play design, Caleb, the RB or the OL?

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Not of those are on him. In a number of instances there are just too many guys to block at the line of scrimmage. He has to audible out and get rid of the ball quickly in order to make them pay. Too often he did not.

On a number of plays there were too rushers coming off the edge and only 1 guy to block them. It's a helluva ask to expect the left tackle to block both guys.

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The Washington game in college and this year in a middle of a huddle shaking his head on a 4th down call on the final drive. I don't like to smear him. I like to say what I see.

The sooner he gets the hard truths, the better. Or you can continue patting him on the butt for his all time Bear rookie season.

Rewrite history. I didn't fucking say it, he did. So live it. First in, last out, burn the purses and tell his mom to go fuck herself.

No more sobbing at Halas Hall. Enough! Be men. Bury your sadness and channel your anger.

Whose camp do you think the “only the head coach, offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach are even allowed to talk to Caleb Williams” rule came from? This stuff is happening in plain sight. How about when he was all sulky when Rome Odunze stole his spotlight on his first NFL TD?

At some level I think he at least aware of what he’s up against in the NFL. He stopped the nail painting thing sometime in the losing streak I noticed. But still, I just don’t see quite yet coping with the hard reality that in the NFL he is not the best athlete on the field basically every game like when he was at USC. That’s not a big deal, I think Tom Brady was less physically talented than almost every quarterback who lost to him in the playoffs.

But there is a mentality that comes with being unable to cope with that fact and it ruins a lot of careers. He clearly has that mentality, not even the ballwashers can disagree.

I'd hate to go to war in any sport with a pouty, backstabbing MFer like this. He completely threw his teammates under the bus after the Hail Mary pass
https://youtube.com/shorts/t4dpJ8bMtB0? ... FtLk94hwVb

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I’ve been very clear that you shouldn’t cry in your mom’s arms after a football game. I had a kid on my son’s flag football team who’d do that; I stopped getting him the ball and he’s 6.

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Watch him ask for a trade once the coaching hire is made. He is that kind of guy, he is absolutely capable of doing it.

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