Regardless of how good Caleb will be, they cannot, CANNOT bring anyone back as starters from this OLine with the exception of Wright and maybe Jenkins. No one else is any good. Bates and especially Shelton were ABYSMAL. Shelton got trucked almost every other play. Maybe Bill Murray could come back.

From WR-they better get rid of DJ. Dude is a cancer. If they keep him, he's only good for Deebo Samuel type stuff. Rome had better get his head in the game. Routinely did not know where he was in the plays. And Allen had better not be back. Way too much of a security blanket for a guy who would lose a footrace with a sloth.

TE-if either of Everett or Lewis is back, something has failed.

RB-I'd keep Johnson but I'd launch Swift into the sun. He cannot run the plays the way they're designed. Terrible.

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There are a lot of things that don't matter that I talk about.

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Caleb's Rookie Stats weren't one of them McCarver

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I think DJ and Rome are keepers and I like Swift if they can by some miracle get some legitimate blockers in front of him. Allen is way over-rated but Kmet should be kept.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
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When he tried to match the Ranger
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Allen became kind of a safety blanket over time. I think that should be Kmet’s job but I don’t know…maybe you try to keep him around another year.

Moore bothers me because I think he’s the most talented but he has a shit attitude. He could be a Deebo in a good offense but strikes me as the kind of guy who’ll never be happy. I don’t know that the NFL is so bereft of talented pass catchers that you need to put up with that.

Rome needs to get a lot better asap. RB needs a massive upgrade.

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last year Poles was confident that FLus was THE man for the job. THis year he needs 20 interviews for the position

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Vrabel was the guy this franchise desperately needed, very detail oriented, held everyone accountable, and would have been the adult in the room with Poles and Warren during free agency and more importantly, during the draft. He would have installed the "Patriots Way" of doing business.

Can McCarthy fill that role? The bar for the next HC is quite low, a guy that brings in a competent coaching staff and uses his time outs properly will be a massive improvement over Eberflus, but you still have the hapless Poles picking the groceries and he has built one of the worst rosters in the NFL despite having tons of picks and cap room.

We continue to see the "Bears Way", or maybe more aptly the "McCaskey Way", play itself out yet again, the idiotic decision to keep Poles around despite his monumental failures is the quintessential "Bears Way".

Can't believe he doubled down on his stupid comment. Still the most ridiculous comment I have read on the board.

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Swift has to go. DJ should go. Kmet will go due to contract. And again, no, they can't revamp that entire line in one offseason. Not realistic.

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was he though? I wish they'd launch the guy into the moon but wasn't that influenced?

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DJ Moore is their only elite player they really cannot afford to lose him.

I agree with you wholeheartedly that people’s expectations for “fixing” the offensive line are not even remotely aligned with reality and that odds are the line will get worse in 2025 rather than better.

Swift should be your second back, the change of pace guy that can catch the ball, more of a third down type back, not a guy that is going to run between the tackles and get you a yard on 4th and one.

Your WR room is bloated, too much money for average performance, you obviously keep Odunze, but do not need to bring back both the vet WR's, the only thing those guys did is teach the young players how to mope around and complain, plus you need to invest that money into offensive and defensive lineman.

Really think they would be better off using AI to do the draft and free agency, AI would look only at production and prevent Poles from falling in love with a guy that did nothing in college, but is 6'4" and runs a 4.8, so if he could just get him in the building he could coach production out of him.

In fact, if you go back and read some of the posts from last year you will find that Poles would have been better off drafting/signing the people suggest by the board members than the guys he reached for in FA and the draft.

Man, DJ Moore is not elite. He's just not. He's Deebo Samuel lite. Gadget receiver who admittedly is great at YAC but is not a #1 and cannot get separation prior to the catch. That is literally what he is.

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Nah the way he moves, controls his body and makes people miss is just elite. The guy plays in wide receiver hell, it’s not his fault (well, he signed to say there).

The drops are a legitimate issue and are what keeps him from a top ten level guy but make no mistake he would put up monster numbers with a real quarterback.

I get you have to say goodbye to 33 year old Keenan Allen, and he had his drops throughout the year, but if you're going to take away that safety net from Caleb the o-line HAS to get good enough to not need Kmet staying in to block or chip all the time, or Rome has to get really good, really fast, or just spend the entire offseason with the jugs machine.

Again, reading is a skill. He has to catch the ball to do those three things. He clearly cannot, even against single coverage, get open consistently unless they run gadget plays for him specifically, or crossing routes. He's not that guy. He's Deebo Samuel lite, and when Deebo is healthy, he's great. He's just not a #1 WR. Maybe Rome will be but he has to remember plays a whole lot better than he does. Allen will not be around next season to move him into place.

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Rome Oduzne might be the least twitchy and/or physically talented wide receiver I’ve ever seen go in the top ten. I have no idea what they saw in him, you can players like that on day three. Passing up on Jared Verse for that…whew…terrible.

Rome will be solid. He had a decent rookie season when you consider the qb was not good and he had to share with 2 other established wr.

I saw Rome get separation often (when he wasn't continually in the wrong spots and clearly messing up both formations and plays), it's like Caleb had him on ignore in favor of Allen. He CONSTANTLY knew where Allen was. Weird.


I have hope for that.

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work on catching the ball and he would be a 1,000 yard receiver this year

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At this stage of his career, if he needs to work on catching the ball he needs to be considered a Cornerback

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odunze had 6 drops which puts him at a tie for 17th most.

reed, doubs and wicks all had 7 or more drops. wicks had 9 on 48 catchable targets. I'm not worried about Rome.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-wr.php

"Drop" stats are, at best, as reliable as "errors", but probably less so. He routinely showcased butterfingers.

Would be cool if he ran more passing routes instead of poorly blocking doomed screen passes to DJ.

Yup, you could see that Caleb and Rome were overwhelmed by the speed and physicality of the NFL, would cringe whenever they asked Rome to block, he would get shoved aside by NFL defensive backs, will need a bit of Thayer's "NFL strength and conditioning", this offseason.

Remember reading that Caleb said he, "never gets nervous", well he sure looked that way after getting bitch slapped by the Texans numerous times.

Humbling rookie seasons for our two first round picks, but the NFL has a way of doing that to everyone. Will see just how interested they are in getting better early next year.

i'll take the drop stats i provided over whatever you're using (probably the memories of his 6 drops) to base your conclusion on. Rome Odunze is far down my list of worries on this team. I think he'll be fine. history shows WR who produce as Rome has in his rookie year generally go on to be successful WRs in the league (funny that one exception would be former bear chase claypool who had a successful rookie year and then.... gross)

He did a nice job with this hire.

Interviewed a lot of people to pick up intel, all the while knowing his guy. Then when his guy became available, he executed his plan quickly.

He now will get an extension.

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I see Thomas Brown to the Patriots, tight end coach and offensive passing game coordinator.

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The guy wanted to raise his family and send his kids to school in Chicago. I’m sure he would’ve been just as keen on Boston or San Francisco if those vacancies were up, but lucky for the Bears they were competing against Las Vegas and Jacksonville which even in its profound state of decline Chicago is simply way more appealing to halfway intelligent people.

All due respect to Susan Tedeschi and Derek Trucks.

If only you had a chance to post this prior to Ben Johnson coming to Chicago...

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