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This draft had 4 QB’s that were viewed as potential top 10 picks with Nix also being viewed by some as an option in the 1st round too (which he was). Maye, Daniels, and Williams all being interchangeable depending on who you were listening to as the very top guys.

I don't think this is right tho. Williams was pretty much the 1 on every board. The rest were interchangeable as to who was considered 2-4 in the QB rankings. Some had Daniels, some had Maye, etc.

This is right. It was like the Trevor year where you could find a few individual people saying Wilson, Fields, or Lance were 1.01, but the vast majority had Trevor. In both cases it would have been stunning if Trevor/Caleb didn't go 1st.

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Williams was a clear #1 but Daniels was at least in the same tier. That's why the idea that the Commanders would give the Bears a huge deal to move up one spot never really took off. Most of the major hauls for the #1 pick ended up with the Bears having Bo Nix or Michael Penix. Even Drake Maye would have been tough to pull off since Harrison Jr. was locked in at #4.

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I don't know what audio Dan was playing yesterday but it involved Caleb doing a podcast or something with, I think, St. Brown of the Lions. I hope the coaches being interviewed get a chance to hear that. I don't think I have ever heard a QB sound like that since maybe Manziel. I would expect that conversation to come from a 15 year old HS QB. Eberflus may have been a bad HC but being a smart ass about him and repeatedly throwing him under the bus is another personality and character flag. These coaches have to know that they can not trust him to handle adversity and that he will turn on them in a second. That seems in lock step with someone who would have the audacity to ask veteran players what its like to lose because he hasn't experienced losing.

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Looks like McCarthy's visit was a sleepover.The flight back to Addison Tx is leaving this morning.


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He can't hide in Chicago like he did in Door County taverns but maybe George took him home to Sycamore and he found his way to Dekalb and closed down Lord Stanley's.

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He can't hide in Chicago like he did in Door County taverns but maybe George took him home to Sycamore and he found his way to Dekalb and closed down Lord Stanley's.
No way a guy with a build like McCarthy’s is gonna fit in around Chicago.

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RFDC wrote:
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This draft had 4 QB’s that were viewed as potential top 10 picks with Nix also being viewed by some as an option in the 1st round too (which he was). Maye, Daniels, and Williams all being interchangeable depending on who you were listening to as the very top guys.

I don't think this is right tho. Williams was pretty much the 1 on every board. The rest were interchangeable as to who was considered 2-4 in the QB rankings. Some had Daniels, some had Maye, etc.

A lot of people were very concerned after the Notre Dame game. The arm angle/velocity change Pat Mahomes LARP won out, as did the DEI component with the pink iPhone and painted nails.

He was not better than the other guys. It’s just not a case like Joe Burrow or Trevor Lawrence where the college success was so undeniable and impressive that you had to be a buyer at some level (I thought Burrow was truly generational, I wasn’t as hyped on Sunshine). USC blew it against Utah then lost to Tulane in the Cotton Bowl, then the next year were even worse. If the argument is that Caleb Williams is some maniac win-at-all-costs guy well the track record isn’t there.

People just got carried away. The Bears particularly. Him going first overall was never in doubt because it was just never in doubt, but it should have been definitely.


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I don't think this is right tho. Williams was pretty much the 1 on every board. The rest were interchangeable as to who was considered 2-4 in the QB rankings. Some had Daniels, some had Maye, etc.




As the draft approached there were plenty of different opinions on this topic. Many still had Williams as the top guy but due to how his final season had ups and downs along with some of the side stories (like crying in his mothers arms after a loss) there was no shortage of criticism. Especially with how well Daniels played that year and the potential of Maye.

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Steelers OC Arthur Smith…come on down! The list continues to grow.

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He can't hide in Chicago like he did in Door County taverns but maybe George took him home to Sycamore and he found his way to Dekalb and closed down Lord Stanley's.
No way a guy with a build like McCarthy’s is gonna fit in around Chicago.

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Steelers OC Arthur Smith…come on down! The list continues to grow.

How will the Bears respond to having to deal with an actual billionaire?

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Williams was a clear #1 but Daniels was at least in the same tier. That's why the idea that the Commanders would give the Bears a huge deal to move up one spot never really took off. Most of the major hauls for the #1 pick ended up with the Bears having Bo Nix or Michael Penix. Even Drake Maye would have been tough to pull off since Harrison Jr. was locked in at #4.




This is probably a better way to say it. My main point being -Daniels didn’t sneak up on anyone. He was viewed as a top tier prospect coming out. His main criticism revolved around his reckless playing style and could his body hold up to NFL punishment

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Williams was a clear #1 but Daniels was at least in the same tier. That's why the idea that the Commanders would give the Bears a huge deal to move up one spot never really took off. Most of the major hauls for the #1 pick ended up with the Bears having Bo Nix or Michael Penix. Even Drake Maye would have been tough to pull off since Harrison Jr. was locked in at #4.

It's the proper summation of events. I'd only add that the haul hypothesis didn't die until Washington did their due diligence on Daniels and got his football information.


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I don't know what audio Dan was playing yesterday but it involved Caleb doing a podcast or something with, I think, St. Brown of the Lions. I hope the coaches being interviewed get a chance to hear that. I don't think I have ever heard a QB sound like that since maybe Manziel. I would expect that conversation to come from a 15 year old HS QB. Eberflus may have been a bad HC but being a smart ass about him and repeatedly throwing him under the bus is another personality and character flag. These coaches have to know that they can not trust him to handle adversity and that he will turn on them in a second. That seems in lock step with someone who would have the audacity to ask veteran players what its like to lose because he hasn't experienced losing.

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There is a clear effort by certain portions of the media to get him over. There is a fluff story about him damn near every day.

I would still be concerned with where his head is at leadership wise. He had zero problem letting Nagy take the blame for his shortcomings. I don't care how bad of a game plan Nagy put together, a rookie starting his first game has no business having an opinion on it. He has no experience and no point of reference. There was an old saying baseball coaches would say to their players when they bitched about anything regardless of its validity. "If you don't like it, play better." If Poles finds a way to kick his ass to the curb then I will actually be scared that the Bears have found a competent GM and might actually build a solid team.

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I've never heard the guy speak before. He reminded me of manziel talking during his interview. He also has some tweets from high school that the sjw crowd will love.


These posts are about 3 different Bears QBs.

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Suffice it to say, and as usual, there were red flags all over the place. The biggest is, I'm paraphrasing, "I'm unique in my passion".


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Bill Belichick has reportedly not yet signed his UNC contract, prompting fresh speculation that he could leave his role in college football and return to the NFL before coaching a game.

But it has now emerged that the 72-year-old has only signed a term sheet, according to CBS, which is not a legally binding contract. It means that if Belichick walked out on the team for an NFL franchise, all parties would be in a gray area legally.

CBS Sports says that UNC have even confirmed that the term sheet is the only document Belichick has signed so far.


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The sleepover didn't go well?
This morning I see McCarthy to be the Saints coach at -250.
Glenn had been the chalk for days.


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The sleepover didn't go well?
This morning I see McCarthy to be the Saints coach at -250.
Glenn had been the chalk for days.

Maybe we’ll finally get to see how he compares to Sean Payton.

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The sleepover didn't go well?
This morning I see McCarthy to be the Saints coach at -250.
Glenn had been the chalk for days.


maybe they didn't serve him breakfast in the morning


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Mike McCarthy and Joe Brady are both represented by Trace Armstrong.

I cannot see the Bears paying asking price for McCarthy. I also do not see Marcus Freeman taking a pay cut to go coach the Bears.

Joe Brady should end up being the guy, unless another team gets high on Brady. As a backup, I'm still holding out Matt Campbell will fit in with the Bears way perfectly

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Apparently there's a report that the Ben Johnson-Raiders rumors are fueled by the amount of the offer they're preparing for him. It would be so Bears to miss out on the top candidate, and MANY others, because Kevin Warren is bargain hunting.


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Bill Belichick has reportedly not yet signed his UNC contract, prompting fresh speculation that he could leave his role in college football and return to the NFL before coaching a game.

But it has now emerged that the 72-year-old has only signed a term sheet, according to CBS, which is not a legally binding contract. It means that if Belichick walked out on the team for an NFL franchise, all parties would be in a gray area legally.

CBS Sports says that UNC have even confirmed that the term sheet is the only document Belichick has signed so far.


gray area?

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"Word" is Raiders are going to essentially let Johnson pick the GM if he takes the job.


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Mike McCarthy and Joe Brady are both represented by Trace Armstrong.

I cannot see the Bears paying asking price for McCarthy. I also do not see Marcus Freeman taking a pay cut to go coach the Bears.

Joe Brady should end up being the guy, unless another team gets high on Brady. As a backup, I'm still holding out Matt Campbell will fit in with the Bears way perfectly





Brady might be the most out of his depth in becoming an HC right now. Personally I wish he’d been a successful OC for much longer than just 1 season with an already established top-5 QB before taking a chance in him.


His short stint in Carolina was bad.

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Apparently there's a report that the Ben Johnson-Raiders rumors are fueled by the amount of the offer they're preparing for him. It would be so Bears to miss out on the top candidate, and MANY others, because Kevin Warren is bargain hunting.




The only thing the Raiders can do is throw the house at him because their roster is a pile of burning shit. Johnson may take that job but I think people are selling him short if they think he isn’t considering some of the crap that comes along -or doesn’t come along- with that job.



I’ll keep repeating that my biggest concern on the Ben Johnson front is that I’m not sure the Bears covet him as much as the fan base thinks they do. Because I do think if the Bears put on a serious full court press to get him they have a better chance than the Raiders do. Ben is most likely smart enough to look past the 5% Brady ownership crap and see they’re an empty husk that has to compete with Harbaugh and Reid every year

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As far as the Raiders paying Johnson :

Silver Lake CEO Egon Durban and Discovery Land Company chairman Michael Meldman, who each bought 7.5 percent of the team last month, and Knighthead Capital co-founder Tom Wagner, Brady’s business partner, have made it clear that money won’t be an issue when it comes to courting Johnson, according to league sources.

As for Raiders GM I'm guessing Johnson would like the Washington asst GM :

Newmark would make a lot of sense. Before helping the Commanders build a roster that went 12-5 and advanced to the divisional round of the playoffs, he spent 26 seasons as a scout and executive with the Lions.

Newmark’s last title in Detroit was senior director of player personnel. He played a role in transforming the Lions from one of the worst teams in the NFL into a contender. He worked closely with the coaching staff, which included Johnson and Glenn,


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Reading that guys are interviewing with the Jets just to drive up the price, feel like the top guys are using the Bears to do the exact same thing.


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Reading that guys are interviewing with the Jets just to drive up the price, feel like the top guys are using the Bears to do the exact same thing.

It’s going to be Anthony Weaver or Matt Campbell.


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Reading that guys are interviewing with the Jets just to drive up the price, feel like the top guys are using the Bears to do the exact same thing.

It’s going to be Anthony Weaver or Matt Campbell.

Thought you told us it was going to be Liam Coen

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He can't hide in Chicago like he did in Door County taverns but maybe George took him home to Sycamore and he found his way to Dekalb and closed down Lord Stanley's.


They only closed down the good part.


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