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that was kind of embarrassing for Serena Williams as well. There wasn't much of a role for her and she is far too wealthy to play the role of backup dancer.

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I like when they had the dopey Country Roads commercial and they came back live expecting the whole stadium to be singing it and maybe 10% of the crowd did. Then way more of the crowd sang "a minor."


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that was kind of embarrassing for Serena Williams as well. There wasn't much of a role for her and she is far too wealthy to play the role of backup dancer.


She came out to publicly trash her ex in front of millions, one of life's most noble pursuits.



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that was kind of embarrassing for Serena Williams as well. There wasn't much of a role for her and she is far too wealthy to play the role of backup dancer.


She came out to publicly trash her ex in front of millions, one of life's most noble pursuits.



It's embarrassing to her, her current husband and her family with him to be totally not still holding feelings for an old boyfriend.

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The old school rap diss tracks were far superior, had no problem understanding what Kool Mo Dee and LL Cool J were saying, the lil' fella that did the half time show seemed to be half asleep as he mumbled along trying not to trip over his way too long mom jeans.

Had heard of the kid, but did not expect him to be a 4' 9" dude whose entire show would be based on the fact that he was pissed at some Canadian dude, wouldn't Diddy be a more apropos subject for a pedophile diss track, or was Diddy's behavior OK because he at least used a bit of baby oil.


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This Super Bowl was the true series finale of the Obama-Biden era. Taylor Swift got booed, then a Pitchfork rapper did a turgid halftime show with dark American-flag imagery, and then the team from the Deadspin city with a black-coded black quarterback beat the midwest goobers with a white-coded black quarterback. Truly a night to reflect on what we had and what we'll lose.

Don’t forget all the “girls are better at football than boys” ads that feel like they are from a different, bygone era.

I don't even know what era those were from. The endgame for elevating women's sports was always scholarships for basketball, volleyball, or soccer; where was there ever this outcry for girls to thrive in a gym class unit?

It’s just the “anything boys can do girls can do better” mantra taken to a complete fantasyland extreme. Like from an era where people thought women should be Navy SEALs or whatever.

I would say if you put 50% of the US female population one-on-one in an offensive line drill with Jalen Carter they would be killed, and the other 50% would merely be severely injured.


Also find the odd celebrity shots dated, nobody cares about these people, in fact it pisses you off because that ticket could have gone to an actual fan of the team. They accidentally showed that the seats in camera range were pre-assigned for certain celebrities, does the NFL think it needs to show TV and movie people attending the super bowl, it might have mattered ten years ago.


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haha..

couldn't name you one song from these performers, but, when i heard 'when i hear music', thought i was back in 1984. oh, how did the young ladies back then look forward to wbmx sponsored dance parties. looked for my members only jacket, pack of players cigarettes and bottle of mousse. so, i guess they sample old music in their music because they can't come up with new music? is that how it works?


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first half of Kendrick Lamar wasn't great, but not bad. 2nd half of it was incredible.

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It was very artistically freeing to just be able to go by Debbie Deb instead of having to think of a cool name.


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Watching Andy Reid essentially abandon the run from the 1st snap and hardly use any PA was one of the most bizarre game plans I’ve seen in a Super Bowl. It’s not like Fangios defense is complicated with disguised blitzes and coverages. He basically runs 2 and 3 highs all game and KC doesn’t give any soft zone beaters or quick dump offs to Mahomes most of the night. Just a really weird game plan. A shame too because Spags called a pretty good game on his end.



Oh well -I didn’t think KC would even make it this far before the season started anyway. Got a good look at two potential Bears targets last night in Josh Sweat and Tre Smith. Sweat looked awesome while Smith and that KC O-line had a long night. Hopefully this leads to KC wanting to reset and they let Smith walk but we’ll see

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cleaned up on this, had Hurts for MVP at +375, also had both teams for a defense/special teams anytime TD at +650


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all of those sacks were Mahomes' fault because sacks are a qb statistic

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all of those sacks were Mahomes' fault because sacks are a qb statistic

Chiefs need to find a way to get Miller Moss.

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There were an unusual amount of old, rich men with young women at the game yesterday...and on commercials. Thanks, Trump

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all of those sacks were Mahomes' fault because sacks are a qb statistic

Chiefs need to find a way to get Miller Moss.

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Watching Andy Reid essentially abandon the run from the 1st snap and hardly use any PA was one of the most bizarre game plans I’ve seen in a Super Bowl. It’s not like Fangios defense is complicated with disguised blitzes and coverages.


This is the conversation we were having watching the first half.

But even with this said, the Chiefs O-line was getting manhandled on every snap.

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Watching Andy Reid essentially abandon the run from the 1st snap and hardly use any PA was one of the most bizarre game plans I’ve seen in a Super Bowl. It’s not like Fangios defense is complicated with disguised blitzes and coverages.


This is the conversation we were having watching the first half.

But even with this said, the Chiefs O-line was getting manhandled on every snap.

The Chiefs looked like pretenders all season long....they had no business being in the super bowl.

I'll believe their run is over if Andy Reid sees the writing on the wall and retires "to spend more time with his family". If he's all geared up to return in 2025....the Chiefs will be in the playoff mix.

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Watching Andy Reid essentially abandon the run from the 1st snap and hardly use any PA was one of the most bizarre game plans I’ve seen in a Super Bowl. It’s not like Fangios defense is complicated with disguised blitzes and coverages.


This is the conversation we were having watching the first half.

But even with this said, the Chiefs O-line was getting manhandled on every snap.

The Eagles secondary isn't getting the credit they deserve. About half of the sacks were coverage sacks. Combine a good, young secondary with KC's mediocre WR group and that what you get. Mahomes had a shot down field in the 1st quarter with Worthy getting a half-step on Mitchell and he passed on the opportunity for some reason and dumped it off to JuJu.

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all of those sacks were Mahomes' fault because sacks are a qb statistic

I respect your insistence on fighting a losing battle but yes most of the sacks on Mahomes last night were his fault. His average time to throw was 3.24 seconds which would have led the NFL this season. Him having an all time terrible performance was the story of the game.

Since we're back to the Caleb debate now, its interesting to note QB rating vs QBR yesterday. Mahomes 95.4 qb rating suggests he had a decent game overall. His 11.4 QBR much more accurately captures that it was one of the worst QB performances in Super Bowl history.

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all of those sacks were Mahomes' fault because sacks are a qb statistic

I respect your insistence on fighting a losing battle but yes most of the sacks on Mahomes last night were his fault. His average time to throw was 3.24 seconds which would have led the NFL this season. Him having an all time terrible performance was the story of the game.

Since we're back to the Caleb debate now, its interesting to note QB rating vs QBR yesterday. Mahomes 95.4 qb rating suggests he had a decent game overall. His 11.4 QBR much more accurately captures that it was one of the worst QB performances in Super Bowl history.

Yet Love had a 38.4 QBR in his playoff loss against the Eagles and played as bad if not worse.

Both stats have merit but both struggle in extreme circumstances.

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Let's keep it real. The MVP was stolen from him.


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cleaned up on this, had Hurts for MVP at +375, also had both teams for a defense/special teams anytime TD at +650


um. i picked eli to win the KOD.


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all of those sacks were Mahomes' fault because sacks are a qb statistic

I respect your insistence on fighting a losing battle but yes most of the sacks on Mahomes last night were his fault. His average time to throw was 3.24 seconds which would have led the NFL this season. Him having an all time terrible performance was the story of the game.

Since we're back to the Caleb debate now, its interesting to note QB rating vs QBR yesterday. Mahomes 95.4 qb rating suggests he had a decent game overall. His 11.4 QBR much more accurately captures that it was one of the worst QB performances in Super Bowl history.


I don't know why are you reading things into my genuine statement

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The halftime show is going to be what it is until the NFL stops working with accomplice Pedo Z. They will never hit a home run with one artist like they did with Prince. It should be a big party with a bunch of different artists playing the hits and spraying to all fields and there absolutely should be some hometown flavor to it. That being said, if I actually care about the game I would mute it or go in another room until the 2nd half regardless of who was playing. This one was just an extension of the social/political climate of the last 5 years. You will like this or you are an uneducated racist..... It wasn't bad, it was boring.

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Watching Andy Reid essentially abandon the run from the 1st snap and hardly use any PA was one of the most bizarre game plans I’ve seen in a Super Bowl. It’s not like Fangios defense is complicated with disguised blitzes and coverages.


This is the conversation we were having watching the first half.

But even with this said, the Chiefs O-line was getting manhandled on every snap.

The Eagles secondary isn't getting the credit they deserve. About half of the sacks were coverage sacks. Combine a good, young secondary with KC's mediocre WR group and that what you get. Mahomes had a shot down field in the 1st quarter with Worthy getting a half-step on Mitchell and he passed on the opportunity for some reason and dumped it off to JuJu.



That's a fair point perhaps.

The Rams were through the same group with a similar, or even lesser skill set at WR.

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Watching Andy Reid essentially abandon the run from the 1st snap and hardly use any PA was one of the most bizarre game plans I’ve seen in a Super Bowl. It’s not like Fangios defense is complicated with disguised blitzes and coverages.



But even with this said, the Chiefs O-line was getting manhandled on every snap.



Which is why you use the run and short passing game to mitigate the pressure. Hell the Eagles were ripe for half-back screens in that 2nd quarter big time just pinning their ears back.. but nope.. keep dropping Mahomes back and asking him to wait for receivers to come open on routes that were strangely (or at least seemingly) not designed to sit in the cushions of the zone.


Like I said, Fangio doesn’t really run anything complicated. Like Lovie he relies on coaching his guys up and making sure they’re very disciplined. The weakness is in the predictability -you can probably study his defenses going all the way back to San Fran to see what works against it.


To me this was a coaching loss on KC’s side. Doesn’t mean they’re guaranteed to beat Philly if they had a better game plan.. but it’s definitely not a blow out if they’d just had a better strategy going into this game. They looked totally lost out there.

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The Eagles were just a wrecking ball. Very similar to Tampa Bay with Brady. Sometimes teams just get to play their absolute best football at the perfect time. They absolutely dismantled the Redskins too. Put some respect on the Rams, who I think were maybe the next best team in the NFL to Philly when they got eliminated by the alpha dog.

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The halftime show is going to be what it is until the NFL stops working with accomplice Pedo Z. They will never hit a home run with one artist like they did with Prince. It should be a big party with a bunch of different artists playing the hits and spraying to all fields and there absolutely should be some hometown flavor to it. That being said, if I actually care about the game I would mute it or go in another room until the 2nd half regardless of who was playing. This one was just an extension of the social/political climate of the last 5 years. You will like this or you are an uneducated racist..... It wasn't bad, it was boring.


they showed an ad where snoop dog was lamenting they even needed to make a commercial about hate...TWICE....and then the halftime show is a rapper "hating" on another rapper calling him a pedophile.

Like I said earlier, I agree with you, I like KL but he's not a great show. I went and saw blackalicious probably a decade ago. They are one of my favorites. the show was boring as hell. I liken this to that.

and if its all to put forth some message....well....If 95% of people don't get the "message" you are trying to convey, you've done a poor job of conveying that message.


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The halftime show is going to be what it is until the NFL stops working with accomplice Pedo Z. They will never hit a home run with one artist like they did with Prince. It should be a big party with a bunch of different artists playing the hits and spraying to all fields and there absolutely should be some hometown flavor to it. That being said, if I actually care about the game I would mute it or go in another room until the 2nd half regardless of who was playing. This one was just an extension of the social/political climate of the last 5 years. You will like this or you are an uneducated racist..... It wasn't bad, it was boring.


they showed an ad where snoop dog was lamenting they even needed to make a commercial about hate...TWICE....and then the halftime show is a rapper "hating" on another rapper calling him a pedophile.

Like I said earlier, I agree with you, I like KL but he's not a great show. I went and saw blackalicious probably a decade ago. They are one of my favorites. the show was boring as hell. I liken this to that.

and if its all to put forth some message....well....If 95% of people don't get the "message" you are trying to convey, you've done a poor job of conveying that message.


When it's all said and done, we're looking at a 15-minute social / political statement shoe-horned in the middle of a major sporting event that coincides with people gathering together at parties trying to have a good time. It doesn't fit.

If people enjoyed the performance and the message....great. I find it awkward and mis-placed, but I'm fairly certain I'm not the target audience.

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