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There's plenty of good sports talkers out there, they're just all podcasters.

Are they any good, really? I've given barstool a spin but I just get bored. CHGO is boring. I don't think any of these podcasts work without a long term connection to the people on the mic.

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Sports talk that’s strictly about sports is inherently boring.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Sports talk that’s strictly about sports is inherently boring.

That's why it doesn't exist, you have to break up the monotony from time to time. Is there anyone that does that in an entertaining way?

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Sports talk that’s strictly about sports is inherently boring.

That's why it doesn't exist, you have to break up the monotony from time to time. Is there anyone that does that in an entertaining way?

Pardon my take is probably the best. You just have to accept they’re going to ball wash any athlete that’ll speak to them but their segments are pretty good.

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This thing has been rehashed around here multiple times in spite of what Oogie and CoF want to believe.

Bernsie had opportunities and decided he wanted to stay in Chicago and do sports talk in his home town.

This is correct. He also was quite successful. I understand why the haters need to feel otherwise.

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This thing has been rehashed around here multiple times in spite of what Oogie and CoF want to believe.

Bernsie had opportunities and decided he wanted to stay in Chicago and do sports talk in his home town.

This is correct. He also was quite successful. I understand why the haters need to feel otherwise.

Because part of Dan’s persona was to call people idiots, and people don’t like being called idiots. Also when you call people idiots as much as Dan did you are bound to have many instances where the idiots get proven correct in the long run.

Its not some big mystery.


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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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This thing has been rehashed around here multiple times in spite of what Oogie and CoF want to believe.

Bernsie had opportunities and decided he wanted to stay in Chicago and do sports talk in his home town.

This is correct. He also was quite successful. I understand why the haters need to feel otherwise.

Because part of Dan’s persona was to call people idiots, and people don’t like being called idiots. Also when you call people idiots as much as Dan did you are bound to have many instances where the idiots get proven correct in the long run.

Its not some big mystery.


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In 2025 no one in Chicago sports is bigger than Big Cat nationally, its not even close. its like the NFL in football and next sports is college lacrosse

Someone said Portnoy is head of Barstool and he is, but No. 2 is Big Cat, he is much bigger than PFT.
I know the ratings are bad, but Parkin's is a big success story and probably the best on radio when in Chicago and most successful to leave. While Parkin's from the suburbs, he is more tied to area than Greenberg who is obviously a national name.

Chicago is a great sports town with great fans, historically great play by play, and color commentators who are known national

Local radio people on national level, just not it. Though does any city really produce radio talent?

The northwestern cult of media is on the same level as Texas A&M creepiness


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There won't ever be a star on sports radio period. Any potential star will go right to podcasting where they have full create control and no boss who will fire them for reasons various Score personalities have been fired. Plus, there is far more money in podcasting now if you're good at it than in radio.

See Dan Katz and PFT. 20 years ago they'd be nationally syndicated in radio.

There's plenty of good sports talkers out there, they're just all podcasters.

Neither Dan Katz or PFT are stars. Portnoy is the only Barstool star. That's why McAfee had to leave to be a star. Barstool listeners know a lot of Barstool people but by the same logic Holmes and Meatpants are stars.


The Barstool guys have all jumped at chances to guest host on local sports radio.

I think Portnoy makes a killing. Katz makes a great salary. Both make their best money from being executives of a corporation. The numbers really decrease after that. I would think the guys like Nice Guy Eddie and White Sox Dave make a comfortable enough living, but Bernstein was making at least double (and probably more) even at the end.

I guess that sliz talking up women's stuff has made a great living. Was she making that kind of scratch at Barstool?

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local sports radio went downhill when the shows became lectures from hosts that saw themselves as experts and the ultimate authority and stopped engaging with the fans on-air. Next thing we knew, everyone at the Score had the same opinion, the same boring takes, show after show, hour after hour and that is not entertaining. Sports radio (and radio in general) is pretty much dead.


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RFDC wrote:
This thing has been rehashed around here multiple times in spite of what Oogie and CoF want to believe.

Bernsie had opportunities and decided he wanted to stay in Chicago and do sports talk in his home town.



I think he made himself poisonous nationally when he made the choice to be a shock jock and get in the mud with Terry Boers.

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Brick wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
There won't ever be a star on sports radio period. Any potential star will go right to podcasting where they have full create control and no boss who will fire them for reasons various Score personalities have been fired. Plus, there is far more money in podcasting now if you're good at it than in radio.

See Dan Katz and PFT. 20 years ago they'd be nationally syndicated in radio.

There's plenty of good sports talkers out there, they're just all podcasters.

Neither Dan Katz or PFT are stars. Portnoy is the only Barstool star. That's why McAfee had to leave to be a star. Barstool listeners know a lot of Barstool people but by the same logic Holmes and Meatpants are stars.


The Barstool guys have all jumped at chances to guest host on local sports radio.

I think Portnoy makes a killing. Katz makes a great salary. Both make their best money from being executives of a corporation. The numbers really decrease after that. I would think the guys like Nice Guy Eddie and White Sox Dave make a comfortable enough living, but Bernstein was making at least double (and probably more) even at the end.

I guess that sliz talking up women's stuff has made a great living. Was she making that kind of scratch at Barstool?

Barstool people have been pretty public about their money. Bigger shows like Lewan and Compton were making seven figures. Lesser guys like Jersey Jerry made low six figures.

I suspect Bernsie moved back down into Barstool contributor range by the end of his career. He probably had the value of, say, a Brandon Walker.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Brick wrote:
Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
There won't ever be a star on sports radio period. Any potential star will go right to podcasting where they have full create control and no boss who will fire them for reasons various Score personalities have been fired. Plus, there is far more money in podcasting now if you're good at it than in radio.

See Dan Katz and PFT. 20 years ago they'd be nationally syndicated in radio.

There's plenty of good sports talkers out there, they're just all podcasters.

Neither Dan Katz or PFT are stars. Portnoy is the only Barstool star. That's why McAfee had to leave to be a star. Barstool listeners know a lot of Barstool people but by the same logic Holmes and Meatpants are stars.


The Barstool guys have all jumped at chances to guest host on local sports radio.

I think Portnoy makes a killing. Katz makes a great salary. Both make their best money from being executives of a corporation. The numbers really decrease after that. I would think the guys like Nice Guy Eddie and White Sox Dave make a comfortable enough living, but Bernstein was making at least double (and probably more) even at the end.

I guess that sliz talking up women's stuff has made a great living. Was she making that kind of scratch at Barstool?

Barstool people have been pretty public about their money. Bigger shows like Lewan and Compton were making seven figures. Lesser guys like Jersey Jerry made low six figures.

I suspect Bernsie moved back down into Barstool contributor range by the end of his career. He probably had the value of, say, a Brandon Walker.



I don't know who any of those people are but I'd guess Dan was still making 250+ at the end

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good dolphin wrote:
I don't know who any of those people are but I'd guess Dan was still making 250+ at the end



I'd say that's a good guess.

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Radio's obviously in bad shape, but linear cable TV? I expect it to die slowly, then all at once. It's not hard to imagine some executive at Disney waking up one day and finally asking "Freeform: why is that a thing?" and then a whole bunch of these cable channels just disappearing.

Radio still has the car. And phones are juuuuussst clumsy enough that they are kind of a pain in the ass to use while driving. But the idea of the medium ever being socially relevant again is pie in the sky. Nobody will ever have the ubiquity of Eddie & Jobo or Mancow again, let alone the Score guys who lets be honest were never that famous (even Bernstein or Mike North).

Unless like I said all the computer infrastructure is so constantly under attack that it stops working. That’s not as implausible as people might think.

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CarPlay works ok for phone navigation. It can still be clunky for the Audacy app and Spotify podcasts. It works great for the MLB app and Apple Music.

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Most Barstool people make 100K, probably 110 now or so adjusted for inflation. The contract is up each year.

People like Brandon Walker, etc are most likely making 300K for he is the college football guy known nationally.

Big Cat is the highest paid guy ever in Chicago media for a "local guy" I know his Mass roots, etc. No one is even close, not even Mike North when he was the highest.

Barstool very much like Stern set up with Stern making a bazillion, Robin and Fred and then Gary. After that, not much and I am sure they go on the road and do promotions to earn extra money


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Most Barstool people make 100K, probably 110 now or so adjusted for inflation. The contract is up each year.

People like Brandon Walker, etc are most likely making 300K for he is the college football guy known nationally.

Big Cat is the highest paid guy ever in Chicago media for a "local guy" I know his Mass roots, etc. No one is even close, not even Mike North when he was the highest.

Barstool very much like Stern set up with Stern making a bazillion, Robin and Fred and then Gary. After that, not much and I am sure they go on the road and do promotions to earn extra money


I thought at least once North got $1M per.

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If memory serves, North got $7.5m over five years, though he had to pay his producers out of that.

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Big Cat net worth is something Mike North could not even imagine. Also, Big Cat has only flown private for last 5 years and he is only 40

That said, you are correct, being from the city of Chicago and local radio guy, North is by far the most successful financially.

I never got his schtick, thought he was boring and just not funny, and he knew so little about sports. I guess the meatballs ate up his stories of softball games, etc.


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Also, Big Cat has only flown private for last 5 years and he is only 40


that's pretty big .


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Also, Big Cat has only flown private for last 5 years and he is only 40


that's pretty big .

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Also, Big Cat has only flown private for last 5 years and he is only 40


that's pretty big .

Probably bought the private plane thing at Costco.

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Big Cat net worth is something Mike North could not even imagine. Also, Big Cat has only flown private for last 5 years and he is only 40

That said, you are correct, being from the city of Chicago and local radio guy, North is by far the most successful financially.

I never got his schtick, thought he was boring and just not funny, and he knew so little about sports. I guess the meatballs ate up his stories of softball games, etc.


Corporate officer Big Cat is flying privately. If he was podcaster Big Cat, he'd be like Nice Guy Eddie and White Sox Dave, taking their own car up to Green Bay for games.

It would be like if those first creators of The Score gave North a piece of the action and a corporate position as well as an on air host.

Big Cat hit it big with a startup. The original receptionist at start ups are millionaires as well. It doesn't mean they are high paid receptionists.

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