I was right about Kmet, now trust me on this TE

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Maybe start by winning more than 5 games.

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All I hear is La Porta. La Porta was a second round pick. If Loveland isn't better than him, this is a failed pick

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He's gonna be good!

Now if only Poles could solve our problems at OT, DE, RB and S.

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Prepare to be disappointed. La Porta was bigger/stronger/faster/healthier than Loveland coming out of college.

It’s all about incremental gains, so all he needs to do is way over-perform Kmet and it’ll have been a worthwhile pick assuming both lines are really good.

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He is not bigger and stronger. Loveland has 3 inches on him and a few lbs on him. Laporta has a faster 40 time.

Laporta had a 6.18 prospect grade and was projected as a 2nd or 3rd round guy.

Loveland had a 6.70 prospect grade and was projected as a 1st round guy.

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People are all butt hurt on this pick. Aside from a successful shoulder repair he’s better than the Penn State kid

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I think it’s because people thought their lines were bad and didn’t think they needed a new tight end.

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LaPorta has excelled in part because the Lions have a QB who is comfortable and competent throwing from the pocket. The Bears do not. So maybe Loveland will be a disappointment.

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i believed the jeanty trade up smoke. i bet he tried but wasnt willing to give up a future first so the deal died.

it's too bad the pats snagged treveyon henderson right before us. i think he's going to be a very good RB

that and johnson fed him with 120 targets in his first year

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Mental reps at mini camp because his shoulder still recovering

Dead on arrival, but how else would it be with Ryan Poles?

I’m sure he’ll wind up being fine but.. the Loveland pick is on Ben Johnson as much as anyone else as far as I’m concerned. The picks in later rounds I feel have more of a Poles stamp on them just because scouting is basically a year round thing and there’s no way Ben could have helped as much scouting that deep with so little time.


This team will enter the upcoming season with many of the same questions they had going into last season.. how will Caleb develop? How will the O-line look? Where is the pass rush going to come from? And how will the coaching staff look (tho last season anyone with a brain knew the coaching staff was bad so it’s a little different of a question here).


I don’t see anything better than a 8 or 9 win team atm. On paper the Bears are top heavy at DB and WR and have questions just about everywhere else. They should have used at least 2 of their 1st 3 picks on both lines but here we are.. again.

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Vegas has the over/under at 8.5, so your projection is pretty spot on at the moment.

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It’s still the outside-in approach, albeit marginally improved given their overspending on veteran free agents.

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Overspending on FA’s or vets for the lines has been his M.O. since he’s been here.. or trading for them when they were probably going to get cut anyway. And it’s literally blown up in his face over and over yet he continues to do it.


He’s really banking on the coaching and the development of Caleb to bail this thing out. Obviously as a fan that’s what I’m hoping for too but stepping back and just viewing this without bias.. the process that has failed for years now hasn’t changed. I’m cautiously optimistic at best.


Poles and Johnson are counting on a lot of things not going wrong or happening for the 1st time a little too much for my liking.. hoping Grady Jarret revives his aging career that hasn’t looked as good lately.. hoping Thuney doesn’t fall off a cliff performance wise at an older age, hoping Jackson can stay healthy after not being able to do so for a few seasons now, and hoping Odeyingbo can suddenly turn into a franchise DE and perennial double digit sack guy when he’s never shown he can do that..


..just too much ‘let’s hope this all works out’ for my liking atm.

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Which was the exact same projection that they provided last season with Eberflus as coach. Which strongly suggests that Vegas doesn't believe that Eberflus wasn't nearly the problem that MANY claimed that he happened to be.

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The Bears win total is as high as it is because they won the offseason with the new coaching hire and the over is going to take money so it's shaded higher.

It doesn’t make any sense unless the Lions really are going to fall back this year. Minnesota and Green Bay are both significantly improved, Lions probably won’t add more than two or three losses. I don’t see how the Bears get to nine wins.

Vikings are starting a rookie QB who you have never seen take a pro snap and you say they are significantly improved.

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Yeah what exactly has Minny done to be really improved?

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You think the Bears are going to win 5 games or less next year?

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They lost nobody and added Javon Hargreaves and Jonathan Allen to the middle of their defense. It’ll make everyone else on that unit way better. And getting rid of Darnold is a good thing. McCarthy is going to be really good for them, fantastic coach with fantastic situation and a good player. They’ll be even more formidable.

The Bears have the second-toughest schedule in the NFL for 2025 (based on the 2024 winning percentages of their opponents).

5 wins isn't out of the question.

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I'll take the over on 5 wins based on the idea that Johnson is actually a better coach than Eberflus.

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There are a ton of reasons to be optimistic about the Bears. And there are just as many--or perhaps even more--reasons to be pessimistic about the team.

I really don't have any kind of feel for this season because the coaches are all new and they've brought in a lot of new players.

But I tend to feel pretty pessimistic about their chances because Caleb Williams looked so bad through much of the season last year. His ineptitude was shocking to me.

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I'd say then you should take the under on the 5 wins discussion.

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Going into the 2024 season the bears had the 4th easiest strength of schedule based on 2023 results. At the end of the season they had played the 2nd hardest schedule, a difference of 27 spots. Preseason SoS talk is one of those things that moves meters in the off season, but doesn't mean that much when they kick off for real.