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Does anyone think Edgerrin James is great?


At one time, yes.


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I dunno, I guess I just see a very good running back who happened to be in a very favorable situation.

Number five on that list is George Rogers. Does anyone thing George Rogers is great? Sometimes where you draw those lines is very important.

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This loss really stings. Not cuz we lost. I knew that could happen. Cuz it was there for the taking when we had it 1st and goal on the 1 yard line.

We could have broke their spirit and killed the crowd right there. Fuck!!!!


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Who the fuck is George Waters?

Not saying Peterson will be a Hall of Famer but the guys is special. Who would you rather have at RB? Portis? Westbrook? Jacobs? Turner? Those guys are all great and if he were healthy I might take Westbrook. Hell, Hester was brilliant for two years. If the Vikes had a QB they would have run away with the North 2-3 weeks ago.


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Number five on that list is George Rogers. Does anyone thing George Rogers is great? Sometimes where you draw those lines is very important.


No. And so long as those lines exclude Emmitt Smith, Franco Harris, Marshall Faulk, Thurman Thomas...and Curtis Martin( :shock: ), we will agree.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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If they were able to get a guy like Favre they would be a SB contender.


And Favre was on the big stage when? 2005? 1999? Earlier?

Or am I blinded by the glare from Favre's multiple SB rings :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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For all the glass half full guys out there, a question. Since the Super Bowl loss, what have you seen from the Bears that makes you think they can win 4 games in a row to make the playoffs? So far this season, the Bears have 6 wins, and 3 of those against horrible teams (Lions and Rams).

Don't get me wrong, I hope somehow the Bears make the playoffs. Cuz they get a home playoff game, and thats not too bad all things considered. But I had this team pegged for 5 wins. They are who we thought they were.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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I'm sort of w/ Frank on this one. But I'm not comparing him to any all-time greats, because I'm pretty sure we would all take AP right now over Brown, Payton, Sayers, or EVEN Forsey.

AP is a great RB in today's NFL, without a doubt in my mind. R&B asked who would I rather have instead of AP:

NFC:
B. Westbrook: No (too "hurty" all the time)
B. Jacobs: No (too one dimensional)
M. Forte: No (not yet, kool-aid fans)
R. Grant: :lol:
R. Bush: No. see R. Grant
C. Portis: No. see B. Westbrook and a add a 1/2 cup of D. Rodman
S. Jackson: maybe oft-injured, maybe the shadow of Faulk doesn't help, but no.
F. Gore: very good RB on a crap team. I like Gore, but would rather have AP.
M. Turner: I saved him for last, because he is the one NFC RB I would have to pause and consider. But let me see more...

AFC:
L. Tomlinson: Yes - way too versatile and quick to pass up.
W. Parker: No. too "hurty"
W. McGahee: No. WAY too "hurty"
J. Lewis: No - too old and felonius.
J. Addai: No. WTF has happened to him?
AFC rookie star RB's: None yet.
L. Johnson: :lol:

I could keep going, but I think you get my drift. AP is a great RB in today's NFL. Top 2, possibly 3. Yes, he has great line, but almost always faces stacked lines against him. No passing threat to speak of. He's real good.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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(AP) is still only borderline great in my world.


only borderline great? cmon

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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I'm a fan, but I'm also a realist. I did not expect them to beat the Titans or win last nite, and picked accordingly.

But I guess that makes me a meatball :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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No more meatball references PLEASE! Moron, idiot, dumb fuck, jack ass, meat head, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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Nas wrote:
I think Derrick Rose is the real deal but I also don't think he is great.


I'm pretty sure you're wrong on this one.

Otherwise, I agree with your point. And in regards to my last post, I'm not blaming Orton for the loss...he had a bad game, he's allowed to have one, as he's been quite good this year...but to say that he DIDNT have a bad game (as Irish Boy is) is ridiculous.


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I was making my comments in real time during the game. Orton did have a bad game, specifically regarding the last two interceptions. He didn't have a bad first half, and I still don't think the first interception was his fault. There were at least five drops in the first half alone (I was at six when I stopped counting sometime in the 3rd quarter.) He wasn't playing badly until the game started to get out of hand.

Is it possible that Adrian Peterson looks better than he really is? His stats certainly weren't unwordly last night, even with the big run. If he doesn't have the good fortune of playing against Kevin Payne, his numbers would have been downright awful.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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Nothing. That won't stop me from believing. The day you see me pick the Bears to lose is the day I've lost all hope.

Wow. And you call Frank a meatball. I didn't know you were funny.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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Nothing. That won't stop me from believing. The day you see me pick the Bears to lose is the day I've lost all hope.

Wow. And you call Frank a meatball. I didn't know you were funny.


Nas, in the 2008 Record Prediction thread, wrote:

Game 1: W Check
Game 2: W
Game 3: W
Game 4: L
Game 5: W
Game 6: W
Game 7: W
Game 8: W
Game 9: L
Game 10:W
Game 11:W
Game 12:L
Game 13:L
Game 14:L
Game 15:W
Game 16:W

Either you truely are the world's biggest bullshitter, or you have lost all hope.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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Was it just me or was John St. Clair almost completely immobile for most of the game? I think I could have gotten around him last night.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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Was it just me or was John St. Clair almost completely immobile for most of the game? I think I could have gotten around him last night.

I saw him busted inside twice. Nasty style.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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Nas wrote:
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If they were able to get a guy like Favre they would be a SB contender.


And Favre was on the big stage when? 2005? 1999? Earlier?

Or am I blinded by the glare from Favre's multiple SB rings :wink:


I think this team is that good that a good QB like Favre would put them over the top. I said it during the off season and still feel the same way now.

Are you talking about the Bears? The qb play is the least of their problems. What are you talking about? Does Favre stop the run? Does he not five up 500 yds passing to Brian Griese?


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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Nothing. That won't stop me from believing. The day you see me pick the Bears to lose is the day I've lost all hope.

Wow. And you call Frank a meatball. I didn't know you were funny.


Huh? It's called being a fan. Hoping your team will win is what most fans do. I don't think they will win some games but I still hope they will find a way to pull it out. Optimism doesn't equal meatball. Thanks for trying for though.

An intelligent fan sir, will not "pick" his team to win every game. You will root for them, pray for them, maybe even scream for them, but I doubt you "pick" them every game. If you do, I totally want to be in your confidence pool. Please.
Also, you picked them to lose 5 this year IIRC. So, are you hopeless?

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 12/16
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An intelligent fan sir, will not "pick" his team to win every game. You will root for them, pray for them, maybe even scream for them, but I doubt you "pick" them every game. If you do, I totally want to be in your confidence pool. Please.
Also, you picked them to lose 5 this year IIRC. So, are you hopeless?

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It's always been tough to win in the Metrodome.

:lol: Thats your response?

You just said the day you picked against the Bears is the day you lose all hope? I saw no such disclaimer about not picking the Bears in tough road games?

And you never specified gameday or non gameday. You just said "the day I pick the bears to lose..."

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Are you talking about the Bears? The qb play is the least of their problems. What are you talking about? Does Favre stop the run? Does he not five up 500 yds passing to Brian Griese?


We were talking about the Vikings. Lets try keeping up.

Sorry you post so much retarded shit(McNabb is clutch, AP is unproven, Tavaris isnt bad...etc) I just assume you were talking about the bears cuz that would be a very Nasian thought.


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Nas wrote:
My predictions before the season is what I think and hope will happen. My game day predictions are usually what I hope will happen. It's not hard Darkside. It's really not.


Nas 2 questions

Can you make 1 post without contradicting yourself?
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My predictions before the season is what I think and hope will happen.

So you hoped and thought they would lose to the Vikes. So you were right again all powerful one!

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An intelligent fan sir, will not "pick" his team to win every game. You will root for them, pray for them, maybe even scream for them, but I doubt you "pick" them every game. If you do, I totally want to be in your confidence pool. Please.
Also, you picked them to lose 5 this year IIRC. So, are you hopeless?


My predictions before the season is what I think and hope will happen. My game day predictions are usually what I hope will happen. It's not hard Darkside. It's really not.

Soooo, your predictions aren't picks? Don't fucking insult my intelligence, Nas, I will take the Pepsi challenge with you any day.

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:lol: Busy posting on a message board? Thats busy to you?


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Darkside wrote:
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An intelligent fan sir, will not "pick" his team to win every game. You will root for them, pray for them, maybe even scream for them, but I doubt you "pick" them every game. If you do, I totally want to be in your confidence pool. Please.
Also, you picked them to lose 5 this year IIRC. So, are you hopeless?


My predictions before the season is what I think and hope will happen. My game day predictions are usually what I hope will happen. It's not hard Darkside. It's really not.

Soooo, your predictions aren't picks? Don't fucking insult my intelligence, Nas, I will take the Pepsi challenge with you any day.

and Darkside delivers the finisher

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So, let me see if I have this right Nas. In order for you to consider somebody a non-meatball fan of the Bears, they can never pick them to lose? Never. Only to win.

I sure as shit hope you aren't a betting man. You'd be out on your ass before your first check even cleared.

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Well you were wrong just like you've been wrong about everything else. Not sold on greatness equals bad to you. Hasn't sucked in the 4th quarter (having good 4th quarter numbers) means that a guy has to be an all time great to you. Say a guy is the WORST QB in the NFL means that someone doesn't think he is bad to you.

Except you didnt say not sold on his greatnes you added greateness later, and you said mcnabb played well in the playoffs too not just the 4th quarter, and in arguing against Purple Jesus you mentioned Tavaris' stellar late season performances.

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I know you are trying your best to get my attention with all your posts but I can't help you.

Well we must be doing something then because between this thread and the McNabb thread, you sure as fuck have a lot of posts over the past few days. Most all of which are asinine.

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