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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:31 pm 
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Loss of North still leaves a vacuum at the Score
By Ted Cox | Daily Herald Columnist Published: 1/15/2009
Picking up where I left off last week, Mike North has found a place to land some six months after leaving WSCR 670-AM. Yet the Score has not yet found a way to replace Mike North.

Because, although Mike Mulligan and Brian Hanley have stepped up nicely as morning-drive hosts, the Dan Hampton and Laurence Holmes show from 10 a.m. to noon is testimony to how little the Score planned for North's possible departure when the station made him a cut-rate extension offer last year.

Hampton was a great player, a Hall of Fame defensive lineman who epitomized the Monsters of the Midway Bears of the 1980s as much as anybody. He retains the respect of Bears fans, and he knows his sport.

He's a lousy radio host, however, and his learning curve hasn't shown much improvement since he got the gig last fall.

Holmes is a fine reporter and a fine person, a pleasant guy to chat with, but that doesn't make him a radio host either. He certainly isn't a show "driver," a guy who knows how to generate topics and a dialogue with listeners, but in that he's not all that worse than Marc Silverman, his morning-midday counterpart at WMVP 1000-AM.

Yet there's no denying the show Tom Waddle and Silvie put on from 9 a.m. to noon on WMVP is a superior product to what the Score has from 10 to noon, thanks largely to Waddle, who makes whomever he works with sound better.

Waddle had several years of experience doing an evening show with David Kaplan at WGN 720-AM when WMVP made the decision that Steve Rosenbloom and, gad, Sean Salisbury (remember him?) weren't working and brought Waddle over and teamed him with Silvie. Silvie had years of experience as well doing an evening show with Carmen DeFalco and even working alongside Jay Mariotti.

Hampton, by contrast, was largely a Bears pre- and postgame host in this market, and Holmes was being promoted from the reporter ranks. Both were expected to learn on the job, and more than four months in, the time has come to say it ain't happening.

Hampton has a stuttering, staggering manner of speech, especially when he gets trapped off topic talking about something other than football. Holmes is earnest, sometimes overly so, but hardly smooth.

I compared them at first to "Da Bull and Da Bear," Norm Van Lier and Doug Buffone when they were briefly the Score's morning hosts years ago, and I think that comparison holds as both shows are hard listens. Yet "Da Bull and Da Bear" had a goofy, amateurish charm that eludes Hamp & Holmes. They're working too hard to sound barely decent to make their show at all playful.

Holmes is overeager, and I don't know if he thinks his listeners are simple or if he's just a simpleton himself, but he doesn't push to elevate the discussion. Thursday, he began by asking listeners what they had been watching, what had held their attention, the night before on TV.

Really? That's the best you can come up with to engage listeners?

Give credit to producer Matt Weber for posting on the Chicago Sports Fan Message Board seeking listener response in how to improve the show. But in the seven pages and 150 replies, I'm not sure there's anything to make Hamp & Holmes sound better, only a few jokes at their expense.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:42 pm 
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Someone tell Ted the problem was North driving the show. He was a great back seat driver

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LET ME HIGHLIGHT THE LAST PARAGRAPH,
Give credit to producer Matt Weber for posting on the Chicago Sports Fan Message Board seeking listener response in how to improve the show. But in the seven pages and 150 replies, I'm not sure there's anything to make Hamp & Holmes sound better, only a few jokes at their expense. http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=264661

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LET ME HIGHLIGHT THE LAST PARAGRAPH,
Give credit to producer Matt Weber for posting on the Chicago Sports Fan Message Board seeking listener response in how to improve the show. But in the seven pages and 150 replies, I'm not sure there's anything to make Hamp & Holmes sound better, only a few jokes at their expense. http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=264661

Yeah we got it the first time thanks.

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Kishin Shinoyama wrote:
LET ME HIGHLIGHT THE LAST PARAGRAPH,
Give credit to producer Matt Weber for posting on the Chicago Sports Fan Message Board seeking listener response in how to improve the show. But in the seven pages and 150 replies, I'm not sure there's anything to make Hamp & Holmes sound better, only a few jokes at their expense. http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=264661

Yeah we got it the first time thanks.

I repeated it for a retard but you quickly appeared. Thanks, Case Closed!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:37 pm 
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The title of Cox's article is misleading. It leads you to beleive it's about "Mully and Hanley" or how much they miss Norh. It was about neither.

It was basically a bash Larry and Hampton piece.


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I gotta say - this much emphasis placed on board opinion disturbs me.

It creeps me out that Cox reads here secretly and puts a degree of importance on our drivel.

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Well, if your looking for meaningless drivel, we're the best option.

He is the media critic. It's his job to write meaningless drivel so it makes sense he would come to a Chicago media message board. He was trying to get "The Pulse" on what people thought of Larry. He was wondering what people were saying about him on the streets.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I gotta say - this much emphasis placed on board opinion disturbs me.

It creeps me out that Cox reads here secretly and puts a degree of importance on our drivel.

Speak for yourself, pal. My drivel is "dynomite".

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Right on, JJ.

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Ted Cox wrote:
Holmes is overeager, and I don't know if he thinks his listeners are simple or if he's just a simpleton himself, but he doesn't push to elevate the discussion. Thursday, he began by asking listeners what they had been watching, what had held their attention, the night before on TV.

Really? That's the best you can come up with to engage listeners?


That certainly sounds like what a lot of people have been saying here.


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The funny thing to me is that I have never clicked on the Hampton and Holmes section. I did not even know there was a thread asking for opinions.

Now that I know, I'm still not going to click on it.

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Hey Teddy, I would be thrilled if somebody made me a "cut rate" offer of 800K per year. Fucking douchebag!

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I like how in an article about the Score, he took the time to throw Silvy under the bus too. That kind of came out of nowhere.

I actually think Holmes sounded better the past couple times I had heard him. I haven't listened to H&H much but I caught some last month and Holmes was the only decent part of the show but that's using a relative scale.

Also, I heard the Bears pre-game a few times with him solo and that show was pretty good.

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I also resent him saying there were "only a few jokes at their expense".

There were a lot of jokes in there.

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Mr. Reason wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I gotta say - this much emphasis placed on board opinion disturbs me.

It creeps me out that Cox reads here secretly and puts a degree of importance on our drivel.

Speak for yourself, pal. My drivel is "dynomite".


Ya know I'm gonna be really pissed if I meet Mr Reason and he doesn't look like his picture. :x


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we were very careful to complement the only part of the show that was good: Webby...

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